Transfers 2017 : Rumours and fact

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  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    He'll have decent enough workers at Cannondale, no? van Baarle, Langeveld, Breschel, Bauer, maybe Phinney. It's not Etixx, but that wouldn't be an awful 6.
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,911
    Shadowrider wrote:
    phreak wrote:
    Surely Sagan has shown that you can win monuments even with a pretty poor team?

    Sep is a third of the rider Sagan is.

    Then what does it matter what team he's at?
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    phreak wrote:
    Shadowrider wrote:
    phreak wrote:
    Surely Sagan has shown that you can win monuments even with a pretty poor team?

    Sep is a third of the rider Sagan is.

    Then what does it matter what team he's at?

    Because Sagan is super-human (in the metaphorical sense, not anything dodgy), but Sep is not and needs a team to help.

    Edit: and even then he can't win
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    Sagz is a force of nature. A once-in-a-generation rider
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    Sagz is a force of nature. A once-in-a-generation rider

    He really is, you know. He's the absolute bo11ocks.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    Sagz is a force of nature. A once-in-a-generation rider

    He's a twit, but my son's middle name is Sagan so I guess I'm now duty bound to defend Twitty Sagan against all comers.
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,144
    I'd wager a large amount of money that Vanmarcke will end his career with a superior record in Roubaix to Sagan.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    andyp wrote:
    I'd wager a large amount of money that Vanmarcke will end his career with a superior record in Roubaix to Sagan.

    He might do, but Sagan will end up with a superior record in every other measure you might care to mention.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    dish_dash wrote:
    Ha ha... Phinney would make a lot of sense actually. Links in with Vaughter's earlier tweet about signing a talisman...

    I'd weep if Sep went to Cannondale... would like him to get a stronger team for that classics, but Cannondale ain't gonna be that...

    How about they are both going to Cannondale?
  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    Maxime Bouet and Gianii Meersman to Fortuneo Concept.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,144
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    I'd wager a large amount of money that Vanmarcke will end his career with a superior record in Roubaix to Sagan.

    He might do, but Sagan will end up with a superior record in every other measure you might care to mention.

    For sure, but Vanmarcke is arguably the best cobbled classics specialist of the post Boonen/Cancellara era.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    andyp wrote:
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    I'd wager a large amount of money that Vanmarcke will end his career with a superior record in Roubaix to Sagan.

    He might do, but Sagan will end up with a superior record in every other measure you might care to mention.

    For sure, but Vanmarcke is arguably the best cobbled classics specialist of the post Boonen/Cancellara era.

    He's only won Het Nieuwsblad :wink:
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Shadowrider
    Shadowrider Posts: 483
    andyp wrote:
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    I'd wager a large amount of money that Vanmarcke will end his career with a superior record in Roubaix to Sagan.

    He might do, but Sagan will end up with a superior record in every other measure you might care to mention.

    For sure, but Vanmarcke is arguably the best cobbled classics specialist of the post Boonen/Cancellara era.

    The biggest fraud in pro cycling since Lance is that Sep has this reputation.


    So over rated. Thomas and Stannard have a better cobble record than him, jesus even Kwiatkowski does.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,411
    Shadowrider wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    I'd wager a large amount of money that Vanmarcke will end his career with a superior record in Roubaix to Sagan.

    He might do, but Sagan will end up with a superior record in every other measure you might care to mention.

    For sure, but Vanmarcke is arguably the best cobbled classics specialist of the post Boonen/Cancellara era.

    The biggest fraud in pro cycling since Lance is that Sep has this reputation.


    So over rated. Thomas and Stannard have a better cobble record than him, jesus even Kwiatkowski does.

    No. Sep's problem is that he's just too strong for his bike. He rides it so hard he breaks it in the last 20km. Every, bloody, time.
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  • jscl
    jscl Posts: 1,015
    Where is young Tao off to? Haven't seen anything about him moving at all.

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  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    Shadowrider wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    I'd wager a large amount of money that Vanmarcke will end his career with a superior record in Roubaix to Sagan.

    He might do, but Sagan will end up with a superior record in every other measure you might care to mention.

    For sure, but Vanmarcke is arguably the best cobbled classics specialist of the post Boonen/Cancellara era.

    The biggest fraud in pro cycling since Lance is that Sep has this reputation.


    So over rated. Thomas and Stannard have a better cobble record than him, jesus even Kwiatkowski does.

    No. Sep's problem is that he's just too strong for his bike. He rides it so hard he breaks it in the last 20km. Every, bloody, time.




    Tis true. He's a mechanic's nightmare
  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    JSCL wrote:
    Where is young Tao off to? Haven't seen anything about him moving at all.

    ogdd76zf

    Wasn't bye confirmed to Sky? Or am I just conditioned to immediately link every Brit with them?
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  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    ^yes, you are :-)
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    The_Boy wrote:
    JSCL wrote:
    Where is young Tao off to? Haven't seen anything about him moving at all.

    ogdd76zf

    Wasn't bye confirmed to Sky? Or am I just conditioned to immediately link every Brit with them?



    You say good Bye
    And I say Tao



    Here all week
  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    ^yes, you are :-)

    In my defence he rode there as stagiaire last season, so I didn't pull it completely out of my arse. Only somewhat so.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,411
    JSCL wrote:
    Where is young Tao off to? Haven't seen anything about him moving at all.

    ogdd76zf


    He's got an offer from Sky, but last I heard it hadn't been signed yet. Possibly some Cannondale interest.
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  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    The_Boy wrote:
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    ^yes, you are :-)

    In my defence he rode there as stagiaire last season, so I didn't pull it completely out of my ars*. Only somewhat so.


    Half-arsed!

    Nah, he might be going there for all I know. I think I'll go on a fishing trip...
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,411
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    The_Boy wrote:
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    ^yes, you are :-)

    In my defence he rode there as stagiaire last season, so I didn't pull it completely out of my ars*. Only somewhat so.


    Half-arsed!

    Nah, he might be going there for all I know. I think I'll go on a fishing trip...

    He's definitely got an offer from them, they confirmed that.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,176
    If I was in the market for a young British rider I'd go for Scott Davies ahead of TGH. (Doull & Carthy already taken)
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  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    RichN95 wrote:
    If I was in the market for a young British rider I'd go for Scott Davies ahead of TGH. (Doull & Carthy already taken)


    I'm a big fan of Davies but I'd give him another year riding for Team Bradders and getting more experience, first. The team's race programme is decent enough to accommodate that
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,411
    RichN95 wrote:
    If I was in the market for a young British rider I'd go for Scott Davies ahead of TGH. (Doull & Carthy already taken)

    *cough cough cough Welsh bias cough cough cough*
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,176
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    If I was in the market for a young British rider I'd go for Scott Davies ahead of TGH. (Doull & Carthy already taken)

    *cough cough cough Welsh bias cough cough cough*
    You may be on to something.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,411
    RichN95 wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    If I was in the market for a young British rider I'd go for Scott Davies ahead of TGH. (Doull & Carthy already taken)

    *cough cough cough Welsh bias cough cough cough*
    You may be on to something.

    Well, in the interests of transparency.... Hackney in da house! Very happy to have both Alex Peters and Tao in the peloton.
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  • jscl
    jscl Posts: 1,015
    The_Boy wrote:
    JSCL wrote:
    Where is young Tao off to? Haven't seen anything about him moving at all.

    Wasn't bye confirmed to Sky? Or am I just conditioned to immediately link every Brit with them?

    As RR2 said, he rode for the 2nd half of last year, but that's it.

    I've not seen him confirmed as being anywhere for the 2nd half of this year or for next year. I hope he's not off to Cannondale.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,411
    My mistake, I thought Sky had confirmed they'd given Tao an offer for 2017, but I can't find that anywhere, just "reports".
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