Donald Trump

kingstongraham

briantrumpet wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

Latest tweet saying again that the media hates it when he tweets! I bet they really hate the fact that it regularly gives them something easy and newsworthy to write about.

He calls them fake news, and in the same tweet claims he has 100M people following him.

Haha, indeed. It's splendid how he keeps stating stuff which is palpably and immediately disprovable.

To be slightly fair, if you add up all the followers of realDonaldTrump, POTUS, WhiteHouse etc on Twitter, Facebook etc it is more than 100M.

Of course, if you then subtract those who follow more than one account, or follow on Twitter and Facebook, you don't. Then you take off all the automated followers, and you really don't.

So more than 100M follows, but not more than 100M people.

briantrumpet

And he's still Twittering - he really is rattled! 6am effort:

"I am being investigated for firing the FBI Director by the man who told me to fire the FBI Director! Witch Hunt"

pinno

How many people have Trump on their Twitter list just because they want to watch Trump (vicariously)? I dunno how it works?

bendertherobot

I don't. Not that it matters as it shows up in my feed being quoted by others anyway.

And, of course, to add, even if we subtract his bots we're still left with followers for morbid or other fascination. A follow isn't an endorsement.

briantrumpet

Pinno wrote:

How many people have Trump on their Twitter list just because they want to watch Trump (vicariously)? I dunno how it works?

Nor me. I'm not subscribed to Twitter, but it's quite fun to watch a few hashtags about the US stuff, as you quickly get a feel of what people are talking about. Not surprisingly the Twit-in-Chief gets quoted abundantly.

Garry H

Pinno wrote:

Is James Corden in with a shout? I was thinking along the lines that twits seem to be popular?

No. There hasn't been a really fat b@stard as president since tv became popular.

pinno

Garry H wrote:

Pinno wrote:

Is James Corden in with a shout? I was thinking along the lines that twits seem to be popular?

No. There hasn't been a really fat b@stard as president since tv became popular.

First Reagan, Obama, then der Trumpf, then Corden then KD Lang, then Jay Lo. Then they will have ticked all the box's.

bendertherobot

Pinno wrote:

Garry H wrote:

Pinno wrote:

Is James Corden in with a shout? I was thinking along the lines that twits seem to be popular?

No. There hasn't been a really fat b@stard as president since tv became popular.

First Reagan, Obama, then der Trumpf, then Corden then KD Lang, then Jay Lo. Then they will have ticked all the box's.

Corden's not a US citizen mun. So he can't be. Not that it stopped Obama.

imposter2.0

bendertherobot wrote:

Pinno wrote:

Garry H wrote:

Pinno wrote:

Is James Corden in with a shout? I was thinking along the lines that twits seem to be popular?

No. There hasn't been a really fat b@stard as president since tv became popular.

First Reagan, Obama, then der Trumpf, then Corden then KD Lang, then Jay Lo. Then they will have ticked all the box's.

Corden's not a US citizen mun. So he can't be. Not that it stopped Obama.

Being a US citizen does not qualify you. You need to be born in the US.

bendertherobot

Well, yes, but that wasnt really the joke

pinno

Someone's going to break out into song in a minute...

Of course we're all laughing now, just wait till Bo Jo becomes PM. :roll:

bendertherobot

Donald has no tapes.

Because either he never had any tapes. Or has listened to said tapes.

Despite alluding to said tapes.

kingstongraham

Imposter wrote:

Being a US citizen does not qualify you. You need to be born in the US.

Ted Cruz was born in Canada and ran to be president in the Republican primaries for 2016. John McCain was born in the Panama canal zone and ran for the Republicans in 2008. It's never been tested, because noone born outside the USA has been elected.

kingstongraham

bendertherobot wrote:

Donald has no tapes.

Because either he never had any tapes. Or has listened to said tapes.

Despite alluding to said tapes.

Amazingly, it took over a month for him to work out that he hadn't taped the conversations, and he had that realisation just as the Senate healthcare bill was being released.

orraloon

Barack Obama posted this yesterday on USAnian healthcare. Contrast and compare substance and style vs der Drumpf the 140 character warrior.

"
Our politics are divided. They have been for a long time. And while I know that division makes it difficult to listen to Americans with whom we disagree, that’s what we need to do today.

I recognize that repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act has become a core tenet of the Republican Party. Still, I hope that our Senators, many of whom I know well, step back and measure what’s really at stake, and consider that the rationale for action, on health care or any other issue, must be something more than simply undoing something that Democrats did.

We didn’t fight for the Affordable Care Act for more than a year in the public square for any personal or political gain – we fought for it because we knew it would save lives, prevent financial misery, and ultimately set this country we love on a better, healthier course.

Nor did we fight for it alone. Thousands upon thousands of Americans, including Republicans, threw themselves into that collective effort, not for political reasons, but for intensely personal ones – a sick child, a parent lost to cancer, the memory of medical bills that threatened to derail their dreams.

And you made a difference. For the first time, more than ninety percent of Americans know the security of health insurance. Health care costs, while still rising, have been rising at the slowest pace in fifty years. Women can’t be charged more for their insurance, young adults can stay on their parents’ plan until they turn 26, contraceptive care and preventive care are now free. Paying more, or being denied insurance altogether due to a preexisting condition – we made that a thing of the past.

We did these things together. So many of you made that change possible.

At the same time, I was careful to say again and again that while the Affordable Care Act represented a significant step forward for America, it was not perfect, nor could it be the end of our efforts – and that if Republicans could put together a plan that is demonstrably better than the improvements we made to our health care system, that covers as many people at less cost, I would gladly and publicly support it.

That remains true. So I still hope that there are enough Republicans in Congress who remember that public service is not about sport or notching a political win, that there’s a reason we all chose to serve in the first place, and that hopefully, it’s to make people’s lives better, not worse.

But right now, after eight years, the legislation rushed through the House and the Senate without public hearings or debate would do the opposite. It would raise costs, reduce coverage, roll back protections, and ruin Medicaid as we know it. That’s not my opinion, but rather the conclusion of all objective analyses, from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, which found that 23 million Americans would lose insurance, to America’s doctors, nurses, and hospitals on the front lines of our health care system.

The Senate bill, unveiled today, is not a health care bill. It’s a massive transfer of wealth from middle-class and poor families to the richest people in America. It hands enormous tax cuts to the rich and to the drug and insurance industries, paid for by cutting health care for everybody else. Those with private insurance will experience higher premiums and higher deductibles, with lower tax credits to help working families cover the costs, even as their plans might no longer cover pregnancy, mental health care, or expensive prescriptions. Discrimination based on pre-existing conditions could become the norm again. Millions of families will lose coverage entirely.

Simply put, if there’s a chance you might get sick, get old, or start a family – this bill will do you harm. And small tweaks over the course of the next couple weeks, under the guise of making these bills easier to stomach, cannot change the fundamental meanness at the core of this legislation.

I hope our Senators ask themselves – what will happen to the Americans grappling with opioid addiction who suddenly lose their coverage? What will happen to pregnant mothers, children with disabilities, poor adults and seniors who need long-term care once they can no longer count on Medicaid? What will happen if you have a medical emergency when insurance companies are once again allowed to exclude the benefits you need, send you unlimited bills, or set unaffordable deductibles? What impossible choices will working parents be forced to make if their child’s cancer treatment costs them more than their life savings?

To put the American people through that pain – while giving billionaires and corporations a massive tax cut in return – that’s tough to fathom. But it’s what’s at stake right now. So it remains my fervent hope that we step back and try to deliver on what the American people need.

That might take some time and compromise between Democrats and Republicans. But I believe that’s what people want to see. I believe it would demonstrate the kind of leadership that appeals to Americans across party lines. And I believe that it’s possible – if you are willing to make a difference again. If you’re willing to call your members of Congress. If you are willing to visit their offices. If you are willing to speak out, let them and the country know, in very real terms, what this means for you and your family.

After all, this debate has always been about something bigger than politics. It’s about the character of our country – who we are, and who we aspire to be. And that’s always worth fighting for.
"

kingstongraham

Warren Buffet has calculated he will get a $680,000 annual tax cut from the new healthcare bill. Be interesting to be able to calculate how someone like Trump would benefit.

pinno

It was said long ago that US government was for the elite by the elite. I just wonder if this is a reflection on Obama as he was distinctly moderate and this did not favour that 'elite'. Perhaps if that elite had accepted him, then his tenure would have been remembered differently.

bendertherobot

His latest Fox and Friends interview is textbook admission that he's interfered with a witness. Dumb twit.

pinno

bendertherobot wrote:

His latest Fox and Friends interview is textbook admission that he's interfered with a witness. Dumb twit.

Yes but when are they going to accumulate enough evidence to impeach the 'dumb twit'?

Whilst all this is going on, is he actually being President or is he stamping out various and accumulating little fires? Or in context, putting his fingers down a few gun barrels.

bendertherobot

Pinno wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

His latest Fox and Friends interview is textbook admission that he's interfered with a witness. Dumb twit.

Yes but when are they going to accumulate enough evidence to impeach the 'dumb twit'?

Whilst all this is going on, is he actually being President or is he stamping out various and accumulating little fires? Or in context, putting his fingers down a few gun barrels.

That's it, isn't it. Any other President would have been hounded out of office by now.

john80

Was in New York at the weekend so went to see Trump Tower first hand. Here are some of my observations.

- The man likes gold to the point that I had to put on my shades inside. He should also note that Brass is not gold.
- There does not appear to be much actual letting of the building going on. Go into any other office/retail space and the list of people in the building is long and easy to determine. In Trump tower I could not find a single business that would associate itself with the building or even tell you it was there.
- It is pretty small compared to other buildings and that must be a hard pill to swallow for a man with huge hands.

darkhairedlord

john80 wrote:

Was in New York at the weekend so went to see Trump Tower first hand. Here are some of my observations.

- The man likes gold to the point that I had to put on my shades inside. He should also note that Brass is not gold.
- There does not appear to be much actual letting of the building going on. Go into any other office/retail space and the list of people in the building is long and easy to determine. In Trump tower I could not find a single business that would associate itself with the building or even tell you it was there.
- It is pretty small compared to other buildings and that must be a hard pill to swallow for a man with huge hands.

everything is leased out to Oleg, Ivan & Viktor.

schlepcycling

darkhairedlord wrote:

john80 wrote:

Was in New York at the weekend so went to see Trump Tower first hand. Here are some of my observations.

- The man likes gold to the point that I had to put on my shades inside. He should also note that Brass is not gold.
- There does not appear to be much actual letting of the building going on. Go into any other office/retail space and the list of people in the building is long and easy to determine. In Trump tower I could not find a single business that would associate itself with the building or even tell you it was there.
- It is pretty small compared to other buildings and that must be a hard pill to swallow for a man with huge hands.

everything is leased out to Oleg, Ivan & Viktor.

And amusingly Qatar Airways.

dinyull

At what point does being associated with Trump become too much hassle?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -donations

I'd imagine NYT, WP et al are going to dig all the dirt they can on anyone who helps him.

kingstongraham

He's on fire on twitter today.

Just retweeted a "FNN Fake News Network" meme. He's an expert troll.

bendertherobot

Failing Time magazine ask Trump to remove fakenews covers from his golf courses.

kingstongraham

bendertherobot wrote:

Failing Time magazine ask Trump to remove fakenews covers from his golf courses.

Bizarre. He can just hang up a real one from the "person of the year" issue instead can't he?

rick_chasey

That administration is really doing a great job of erroding the pillars of democracy in that place.

I can't believe all these Republicans are willing to tolerate it.

bendertherobot

KingstonGraham wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

Failing Time magazine ask Trump to remove fakenews covers from his golf courses.

Bizarre. He can just hang up a real one from the "person of the year" issue instead can't he?

He can. But I guess he didn't like the "President of the Divided States of America" strap line.

pinno

Not sure they are 'tolerating it' :

https://www.facebook.com/republicansagainstTrump/