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  • CptKernow
    CptKernow Posts: 467
    bianchimoon wrote:
    yesterdays cabinet meeting.. WTF, was one of the most embarrassing scenes i'd ever seen, looked like they all had to tell Trump one by one what an honour and privilege it was to serve him... his Narcissism has reached heights previously unattainable in the human race.

    Well, the more fake sycophancy now only means when things do go tits up the knives will come out the and back-stabbing will be conducted with extra enthusiasm...
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,317
    The higher the pedestal they put him on (either contrived platitudes or otherwise), the bigger the crash. Hopefully, we shall witness such an event and with great detail but simultaneously, I hope that in anticipation of such an event, he doesn't do something very silly to prop up his ailing reputation and the event occurs on home soil.

    The less oft used adjective 'obsequious' comes to mind.
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    His tweets on gun crime today will be worth reading
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    At a White House lunch with a dozen senators yesterday, he described the healthcare bill passed by the House as "mean". And hoped that the Senate would come out with a bill that's "generous, kind, with heart".

    He forgets what he's done literally days ago.
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    bendertherobot wrote:
    His tweets on gun crime today will be worth reading

    Interesting to see if it's a Dem that's been shot, and if by a Trump loon. If so he has a lot to answer for.

    Obviously hope whoever has been shot is ok.

    *Edit, scrap that. Looks like a Rep.
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Dinyull wrote:
    bendertherobot wrote:
    His tweets on gun crime today will be worth reading

    Interesting to see if it's a Dem that's been shot, and if by a Trump loon. If so he has a lot to answer for.

    Obviously hope whoever has been shot is ok.

    *Edit, scrap that. Looks like a Rep.

    Yeah it's not just a rep but quite an important one. One of the most important, I guess.
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  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    Again, might be too soon for this, but be interesting to see if the tide might start to turn on guns now members of congress are the victims.
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Dinyull wrote:
    Again, might be too soon for this, but be interesting to see if the tide might start to turn on guns now members of congress are the victims.

    Isn't the stock response that more guns = less chance of people shooting you because, deterrent.

    Reminds me that, on this, and related matters, Yes Prime Minister on Trident really was prescient:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y-yyaWCgiQ
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    bendertherobot wrote:
    Dinyull wrote:
    bendertherobot wrote:
    His tweets on gun crime today will be worth reading

    Interesting to see if it's a Dem that's been shot, and if by a Trump loon. If so he has a lot to answer for.

    Obviously hope whoever has been shot is ok.

    *Edit, scrap that. Looks like a Rep.

    Yeah it's not just a rep but quite an important one. One of the most important, I guess.

    Reports say that the shooter asked if it was Reps or Dems on the field, then deliberately targeted the Republicans. Rep. Scalises's injury not life threatening.

    Rand Paul saying that because it was someone with a security detail, the shooter was neutralized quickly, preventing a likely massacre.
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    That did go through my mind as I was typing it actually.

    Never had any experience of guns, up until last week on a stag do in Krakow: shooting range, sub machine gun, 25 rounds in less than 3 seconds. How any country in their right mind could allow something like that sold over the counter is batsh*t crazy.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    What they need is a travel ban... on everyone who owns an automatic weapon. After all, you've got to keep US citizens safe.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    bendertherobot wrote:
    Dinyull wrote:
    bendertherobot wrote:
    His tweets on gun crime today will be worth reading

    Interesting to see if it's a Dem that's been shot, and if by a Trump loon. If so he has a lot to answer for.

    Obviously hope whoever has been shot is ok.

    *Edit, scrap that. Looks like a Rep.

    Yeah it's not just a rep but quite an important one. One of the most important, I guess.

    Reports say that the shooter asked if it was Reps or Dems on the field, then deliberately targeted the Republicans. Rep. Scalises's injury not life threatening.

    Rand Paul saying that because it was someone with a security detail, the shooter was neutralized quickly, preventing a likely massacre.

    So odd how when it's the US everyone starts ising military jargon.

    "Neutralised" (active) "shooter".

    You mean killed and the gunman?

    Let's vow to keep the violence in the language.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    So odd how when it's the US everyone starts ising military jargon.

    "Neutralised" (active) "shooter".

    You mean killed and the gunman?

    Let's vow to keep the violence in the language.
    Agree about the "shooter" bit, but the gunman is in hospital, it seems, so "neutralised" is probably passable language.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Or shot?

    Just use the word for what actually happened rather than a euphemism.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    bendertherobot wrote:
    Dinyull wrote:
    bendertherobot wrote:
    His tweets on gun crime today will be worth reading

    Interesting to see if it's a Dem that's been shot, and if by a Trump loon. If so he has a lot to answer for.

    Obviously hope whoever has been shot is ok.

    *Edit, scrap that. Looks like a Rep.

    Yeah it's not just a rep but quite an important one. One of the most important, I guess.

    Reports say that the shooter asked if it was Reps or Dems on the field, then deliberately targeted the Republicans. Rep. Scalises's injury not life threatening.

    Rand Paul saying that because it was someone with a security detail, the shooter was neutralized quickly, preventing a likely massacre.

    So odd how when it's the US everyone starts ising military jargon.

    "Neutralised" (active) "shooter".

    You mean killed and the gunman?

    Let's vow to keep the violence in the language.

    Don't blame me, I said it was Rand Paul who said it. I even used a z in neutralised, even though it wasn't copy paste.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    Wouldn't gunman be a sexist assumption before I knew any details?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    Wouldn't gunman be a sexist assumption before I knew any details?

    No.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    I just mean it more broadly. I ended up in a suspected "active shooter scenario" in New York.

    They thought a man had entered the shop with a big gun, so I got bundled into a "safe room" aka a storage cupboard.

    Just struck me as odd how they coaxed it all in euphemistic language.


    Was a false alarm of course.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Or shot?

    Just use the word for what actually happened rather than a euphemism.
    "Shot" might mean that he got away though. I generally hate euphemism, but I'm not going to complain about 'neutralised', as I know exactly what it means. If he had been shot dead, though, that's what I'd expect to be reported. Factual, and concise. That's how language should be used.

    Incidentally, before I got so fascinated by the Trump farce, I assumed that "Rep." meant 'Republican', but I've since twigged that it merely means "Representative" (i.e. in the House of Congress) when used in US news reports.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    briantrumpet wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Or shot?

    Just use the word for what actually happened rather than a euphemism.
    "Shot" might mean that he got away though. I generally hate euphemism, but I'm not going to complain about 'neutralised', as I know exactly what it means. If he had been shot dead, though, that's what I'd expect to be reported. Factual, and concise. That's how language should be used.

    Incidentally, before I got so fascinated by the Trump farce, I assumed that "Rep." meant 'Republican', but I've since twigged that it merely means "Representative" (i.e. in the House of Congress) when used in US news reports.
    The 'shooter' is dead now, BTW (though he wasn't 'shot dead').
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  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    I notice the "shooter" was behind described as a Bernie supporter in the Telegraph - a bit blatantly manipulative even for a right wing paper.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    bompington wrote:
    I notice the "shooter" was behind described as a Bernie supporter in the Telegraph - a bit blatantly manipulative even for a right wing paper.
    The Trumpsters are in full-blown "blame it on the libtards" mode on Twitter... just conveniently forgetting that many of the gun atrocities in the US are committed by white supremacist rightwing nutjobs.
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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    Wouldn't gunman be a sexist assumption before I knew any details?

    'gunperson'
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    edited June 2017
    briantrumpet wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Or shot?

    Just use the word for what actually happened rather than a euphemism.
    "Shot" might mean that he got away though. I generally hate euphemism, but I'm not going to complain about 'neutralised', as I know exactly what it means. If he had been shot dead, though, that's what I'd expect to be reported. Factual, and concise. That's how language should be used.

    Incidentally, before I got so fascinated by the Trump farce, I assumed that "Rep." meant 'Republican', but I've since twigged that it merely means "Representative" (i.e. in the House of Congress) when used in US news reports.

    As long as its neutralised and not neutralized :wink:
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    I would just like to say, as a white person, I do not condone acts of terrrorism like thi...

    Oh wait, I don't need to do this 'cos I'm white, do I?
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  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    Dinyull wrote:
    Which is worse:
    a) expecting people to fawn all over your?
    b) have such little respect for yourself to act up to the president in front of millions of viewers?

    The man is an odious c*nt, but the people serving him are just as bad.

    FFS https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/875067723939753986
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    edited June 2017
    *Edited too late!*
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Marilyn's let herself go.
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Dinyull wrote:
    Dinyull wrote:
    Which is worse:
    a) expecting people to fawn all over your?
    b) have such little respect for yourself to act up to the president in front of millions of viewers?

    The man is an odious c*nt, but the people serving him are just as bad.

    FFS https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/875067723939753986

    has obviously been too pissed to notice Trump does not drink
  • letap73
    letap73 Posts: 1,608
    WaPo continue to stick the knife in nice and slow:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... c25619c22b

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