Donald Trump

fenix

bendertherobot wrote:

Well, that's Spicer almost certainly gone over the next few days. Though I don't necessarily agree with the Anne Frank Center (sic) it was an incredibly poor choice of words/reasoning.

He's not coming over as the brightest is he ? That said - he will probably stay for the duration....

kingstongraham

Fenix wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

Well, that's Spicer almost certainly gone over the next few days. Though I don't necessarily agree with the Anne Frank Center (sic) it was an incredibly poor choice of words/reasoning.

He's not coming over as the brightest is he ? That said - he will probably stay for the duration....

No, I think he's done.

The follow up question to allow him to clarify/retract has been described as a lifeline that he tied to an anvil.

dinyull

His squirming trying to clarify his position was cringeworthy.

Holocaust centres.

TheBigBean

Daily Mail has folded against Melania Trump.

pinno

TheBigBean wrote:

Daily Mail has folded against Melania Trump.

You mean the Daily Heil isn't waxing lyrical about recent White House comments? Must have gone soft.

What a strange race of people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmXMEX7ktcc

kingstongraham

What an interview. I can't work out if an interviewer who humours him and just lets him spew out his lack of knowledge is better or worse for him than someone who challenges him. It's a Trump tour de force either way. Lies, misunderstandings, inconsistencies, lack of knowledge and boasts about the quality of the cake at Mar a Lago.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... da2986863b

bendertherobot

I was going to annotate that, but then I realised it would take me all bloody day.

slowbike

PBlakeney wrote:

I am no antiwar peacenik, but I have to wonder.
Is there not a better solution to the problem of people bombing people than bombing people?

How do you reason with a bully who (apparently) won't listen to reason?

veronese68

Slowbike wrote:

How do you reason with a bully who (apparently) won't listen to reason?

Which one, Assad, Trump or Putin?

briantrumpet

If you need evidence that Trump's brain is rotting, here it is - a response in an interview last week:

“Well he said, you’ll be the greatest president in the history of, but you know what, I’ll take that also, but that you could be. But he said, will be the greatest president but I would also accept the other. In other words, if you do your job, but I accept that. Then I watched him interviewed and it was like he never even was here. It’s incredible. I watched him interviewed a week later and it’s like he was never in my office. And you can even say that.”

Quite remarkable.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don ... 9cb917f7ca

bendertherobot

Pavarotti is a great friend of his. Great friend.

briantrumpet

My quip about his brain rotting isn't a joke - a person's use of language is a very sensitive window into someone's brain, and that someone can mangle his native language so comprehensively does not give me great confidence that he has got all his marbles, even when you strip away the politics. He simply can't string a sentence together: either his original thoughts are a soup/salad, or his brain can't turn those thoughts into a cogent sentence.

briantrumpet

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lev-rapha ... 96232.html

I know there's a lot of stuff out there asking the question (a lot of it because of his politics, of course), but I can't help feeling that there must be studies out there about brain degeneration and language use that would be able to diagnose Trump to a reasonable degree of certainty.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lev-rapha ... 96232.html

dinyull

There have already been a few psychologists who've voiced their opinions in the media that all is not well with his mental health.

kingstongraham

Transcript of the interview here:
https://apnews.com/c810d7de280a47e88848b0ac74690c83

It keeps giving, but my favourite bit has to be:

TRUMP: OK. The one thing I've learned to do that I never thought I had the ability to do. I don't watch CNN anymore.

AP: You just said you did.

TRUMP: No. No, I, if I'm passing it, what did I just say (inaudible)?

AP: You just said —

TRUMP: Where? Where?

AP: Two minutes ago.

bendertherobot

Yeah. Let me give me an example. A little before I took office there was a terrible article about the F-35 fighter jet. It was hundreds of billions of dollars over budget. It was seven years behind schedule. It was a disaster. So I called in Lockheed and I said, "I'm sorry, we're going to have to bid this out to another company, namely Boeing," or whoever else. But Boeing. And I called in Boeing and I started getting competing offers back and forth. ...

briantrumpet

I mean, who knew this language thing was so complicated?

kingstongraham

AP: Can I ask you, over your first 100 days — you're not quite there yet — how do you feel like the office has changed you?

TRUMP: Well the one thing I would say — and I say this to people — I never realized how big it was.

It's massive. And every agency is, like, bigger than any company. So you know, I really just see the bigness of it all, but also the responsibility.

bianchimoon

KingstonGraham wrote:

AP: Can I ask you, over your first 100 days — you're not quite there yet — how do you feel like the office has changed you?

TRUMP: Well the one thing I would say — and I say this to people — I never realized how big it was.

It's massive. And every agency is, like, bigger than any company. So you know, I really just see the bigness of it all, but also the responsibility.

TRUMP: Yeah. Let me give me an example. A little before I took office there was a terrible article about the F-35 fighter jet. It was hundreds of billions of dollars over budget. It was seven years behind schedule. It was a disaster. So I called in Lockheed and I said, “I'm sorry, we're going to have to bid this out to another company, namely Boeing,” or whoever else. But Boeing. And I called in Boeing and I started getting competing offers back and forth. ...

TRUMP: I saved $725 million on the 90 planes. Just 90. Now there are 3,000 planes that are going to be ordered. On 90 planes I saved $725 million. It's actually a little bit more than that, but it's $725 million. Gen. Mattis, who had to sign the deal when it came to his office, said, “I've never seen anything like this in my life.” We went from a company that wanted more money for the planes to a company that cut. And the reason they cut — same planes, same everything — was because of me. I mean, because that's what I do.

TRUMP: Now if you multiply that times 3,000 planes, you know this is on 90 planes. In fact, when the Prime Minister (Shinzo) Abe of Japan came in because they bought a certain number of those ... The first thing he said to me, because it was right at the time I did it, he said, “Could I thank you?” I said, “What?” He said, “You saved us $100 million.” Because they got a $100 million savings on the 10 or 12 planes that they (bought).

Trump unknowingly bragging that he's lost an american company £100 million, by negotiating a deal for america, he's ended up giving the planes away cheap to a foreign government... what an ass!

bendertherobot

I was a little more concerned that he was going to ring Boeing, get them to bring the X-32 out of mothballs, and beat Lockheed with that stick.

Jez mon

bendertherobot wrote:

I was a little more concerned that he was going to ring Boeing, get them to bring the X-32 out of mothballs, and beat Lockheed with that stick.

I'm interested to know how Lockheed managed to trim that much off the budget.

I would hazard a guess they may now be missing a few 'nice to have' features, or they have increased the operating costs...

briantrumpet

Jez mon wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

I was a little more concerned that he was going to ring Boeing, get them to bring the X-32 out of mothballs, and beat Lockheed with that stick.

I'm interested to know how Lockheed managed to trim that much off the budget.

I would hazard a guess they may now be missing a few 'nice to have' features, or they have increased the operating costs...

They've probably replaced the original cockpit design with something more like this:

pinno

It's worrying that the POTUS has altimeters* or something. I thought Bush was a bit wonky but he was just a drunk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrEdjaJt9iY

*Freudian slip (honest).

kingstongraham

Looks like Donald's found his phone.

bianchimoon

KingstonGraham wrote:

Looks like Donald's found his phone.

he is a spoilt child

bendertherobot

He's an utter cockwomble

bianchimoon

bendertherobot wrote:

He's an utter cockwomble

You do a disservice to cockwombles

FocusZing

I don't think the cockwomble would get on with the mugwump regarding trade deals.

kingstongraham

Actually... http://www.npr.org/2017/04/27/525877157 ... -and-flynn

So diversionary tactics working perfectly. Not indiscriminate rants after all.

pinno

I'm a bit naive KG - what's a 'shut down'?