Donald Trump

pinno

They did give the Russians advanced warning of the bombing.

The next few days politically will be interesting.
I think the solution is to first divide Syria up and then for the Russians to put a puppet in power to their liking. It's only Assad's power and the supposed strategic position of Syria that maintains their alliance with Russia.
If the west could do such a 'deal', I think they could get the Russians on side.

mamba80

whats scary about Trump is one minute he likes Assad and Putin, he then sees some terrible scenes on CNN and launches 58 cruise missiles at the air base held responsible - that this has no doubt killed and maimed people unrelated to the gas attack is not a concern.
He is responding to events and lacks any coherent policy.

bendertherobot

The cost is scary too. $1.59 million per missile.

Or, to put it another way, yesterday he spunked an entire year's worth of weekend security at Mar a Lago.

And that makes you think a) about how much war cost and b) about how much is being spent on Mar a Lago.

mr_goo

PBlakeney wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

No, its not still open. Presumed suicide. CoD: haemorrhage from wrists wounds in combination with ingestion of opiates.

Put the tin foil away.

Presumed, but not proven.
I suit a foil hat.

Presumed - very convenient
Suicide - my 4rse

Matthewfalle

bendertherobot wrote:

The cost is scary too. $1.59 million per missile.

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To put it into context: that's actually quite cheap.

bendertherobot

Matthewfalle wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

The cost is scary too. $1.59 million per missile.

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To put it into context: that's actually quite cheap.

I did put it into context

rjsterry

Mr Goo wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

No, its not still open. Presumed suicide. CoD: haemorrhage from wrists wounds in combination with ingestion of opiates.

Put the tin foil away.

Presumed, but not proven.
I suit a foil hat.

Presumed - very convenient
Suicide - my 4rse

Yes, government assassination happens all the time, whereas who has heard of a middle-aged man committing suicide? Supposing hypothetically that there was foul play, what was the purpose?

secretsam

Matthewfalle wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

The cost is scary too. $1.59 million per missile.

.

To put it into context: that's actually quite cheap.

Balls. Just wait 'til next week's Aldi/Lidl special deal on "Tommyhawk" missiles, £50 a pop.

bendertherobot

SecretSam wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

The cost is scary too. $1.59 million per missile.

.

To put it into context: that's actually quite cheap.

Balls. Just wait 'til next week's Aldi/Lidl special deal on "Tommyhawk" missiles, £50 a pop.

Paveways are 3 for 2 at lidl

RallyBiker

Mr Goo wrote:

Dinyull wrote:

Saw some expert (could have been an ex-defence minister) explain that it had to have been from a missile and not from a factory/store compound being hit by a missile.

And whilst not an expert you'd think that the US and UK agencies would know if rebels or terrorists have their hands on weapons of mass destruction*.

*although after Iraq.....

Dr David Kelly was an expert on biological warfare advising the British government. Look what happened to him.
Which reminds me. Did the police ever find the murderer? And if not, is the case still open?

No it got shut down by that pretty straight sort of guy. Move along now, nothing to see here!

orraloon

RallyBiker wrote:

Mr Goo wrote:

Dinyull wrote:

Saw some expert (could have been an ex-defence minister) explain that it had to have been from a missile and not from a factory/store compound being hit by a missile.

And whilst not an expert you'd think that the US and UK agencies would know if rebels or terrorists have their hands on weapons of mass destruction*.

*although after Iraq.....

Dr David Kelly was an expert on biological warfare advising the British government. Look what happened to him.
Which reminds me. Did the police ever find the murderer? And if not, is the case still open?

No it got shut down by that pretty straight sort of guy. Move along now, nothing to see here!

Someone told me Shane Sutton was involved.

pinno

That Sutton bloke is responsible for a lot of things but the worst thing was that stupid Tache he used to have.

rick_chasey

Ha both the Brexiters think it's a conspiracy.

Of course.


In more obvious news, praising the narcissist for the first time in his presidential career for dropping bombs is only going to end up going on way.

Garry H

bendertherobot wrote:

SecretSam wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

The cost is scary too. $1.59 million per missile.

.

To put it into context: that's actually quite cheap.

Balls. Just wait 'til next week's Aldi/Lidl special deal on "Tommyhawk" missiles, £50 a pop.

Paveways are 3 for 2 at lidl

B&M are doing BOGOF on Hellfires!

bendertherobot

Rick Chasey wrote:

Ha both the Brexiters think it's a conspiracy.

Of course.


In more obvious news, praising the narcissist for the first time in his presidential career for dropping bombs is only going to end up going on way.

No bombs dropped. Missiles fired. The media forget he's been doing this with Drones for months now.

rick_chasey

Missile, bomb, whatever.

Blows sh!t up.

pinno

Rick Chasey wrote:

Missile, bomb, whatever.

Blows sh!t up.

...and creates jobs:

Missile makers
Medics
Runway repair folks.

rjsterry

Rick Chasey wrote:

Missile, bomb, whatever.

Blows sh!t up.

BTR's point still stands: he's been blowing things up with less fanfare since he took office.

pinno

rjsterry wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Missile, bomb, whatever.

Blows sh!t up.

BTR's point still stands: he's been blowing things up with less fanfare since he took office.

That might just be down to the media. We don't get wall to wall coverage of the bombing of Yemen but we get wall to wall coverage of Syria. Funny that.

pblakeney

I am no antiwar peacenik, but I have to wonder.
Is there not a better solution to the problem of people bombing people than bombing people?

pinno

PBlakeney wrote:

I am no antiwar peacenik, but I have to wonder.
Is there not a better solution to the problem of people bombing people than bombing people?

That would mean human beings actually evolving. :roll:
Although the Greeks had some odd philosophical ideas, they were no more or less intelligent than we are. The only difference; if you wanted to kill a number of people, it required archaic catapults, boiling oil or a shower of arrows. Now we can press a button.

bendertherobot

Pinno wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Missile, bomb, whatever.

Blows sh!t up.

BTR's point still stands: he's been blowing things up with less fanfare since he took office.

That might just be down to the media. We don't get wall to wall coverage of the bombing of Yemen but we get wall to wall coverage of Syria. Funny that.

Yeah, interesting isn't it. There's no shortage of human emotion, suffering and pathos there either.

dinyull

bendertherobot wrote:

The cost is scary too. $1.59 million per missile.

Or, to put it another way, yesterday he spunked an entire year's worth of weekend security at Mar a Lago.

And that makes you think a) about how much war cost and b) about how much is being spent on Mar a Lago.

One of his criticisms of Obama was his security spending.

Security for Melina and the boy in NY is forecast to cost $180m a year - Obama total cost over 2 terms was $100m.

This is a few weeks after Trump made cuts to meal on wheels.

bendertherobot

Indeed, security for Trump Tower, Mar a Lago etc, will comfortably outstrip Obama's entire terms. I've no idea why this isn't being pointed out more. But, it seems, those in the rust belt don't care because he's managed to convince them that he's one of them. He is the swamp, the very definition of it.

kingstongraham

If Assad had stuck to destroying beautiful babies with normal bombs, he still wouldn't care.

And all because he didn't want to be like Obama and not do anything when he said a line had been crossed.

pblakeney

And there was me thinking it was because the lady loves Milk Tray.

rick_chasey

https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/ ... 4991681536

pblakeney

bendertherobot

Well, that's Spicer almost certainly gone over the next few days. Though I don't necessarily agree with the Anne Frank Center (sic) it was an incredibly poor choice of words/reasoning.

rjsterry

bendertherobot wrote:

Well, that's Spicer almost certainly gone over the next few days. Though I don't necessarily agree with the Anne Frank Center (sic) it was an incredibly poor choice of words/reasoning.

Just read a report: that a press secretary should be so apparently unaware of what he has just said in a press conference... I almost felt sorry for him.