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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,335
    Now, why would he do that? "She's a lovely-looking daughter... it would be a shame if anything happened to her..." vibes. Guess it runs in the family.

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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,538
    focuszing723 said:

    Yeah, look at skigate brought against Gwyneth Paltrow.

    I do think making Trump the marter is just going to gain him more support from freedom lovers in America as Ed Balls 'Trumpland' demonstrated.

    That was a civil case. This is a criminal case. Almost no similarity.
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  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,605
    I don't see him running again at this point.

    He's already lost an election once, so has the stink of being a loooooooser. He's also really quite old now.

    Unfortunately there are lots of young nutter republicans who are ready to take up the Mantle.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    At least the orange jumpsuit will match his complexion nicely.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,335
    edited April 2023
    Jezyboy said:

    I don't see him running again at this point.


    There are rumours that the Georgia one will come this week, and Trump's lost his bid to stop his closest henchmen from testifying in the secret documents case with Jack Smith. Those two are the big ones, and they seem to be moving quickly now.

    I see that the judge in the current case has warned Trump about incendiary posts... it will be interesting to see if he and his family can resist the temptation... it's almost as if the judge is daring them to cross him.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143
    I can't get excited about this - of all the ways he's terrible and broken the law, paying a blackmailer seems pretty small.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,557
    kingstongraham said:

    I can't get excited about this - of all the ways he's terrible and broken the law, paying a blackmailer seems pretty small.

    Remember it was the tax that brought down Al Capone
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,335
    kingstongraham said:

    I can't get excited about this - of all the ways he's terrible and broken the law, paying a blackmailer seems pretty small.


    Plus I think it could bolster the resolve of the other prosecutors/DA's to file their decidedly more substantial charges. Now the US public have seen that Trump can be charged with crimes, despite his attempts to evade, evade, evade (by dint of his being an ex-POTUS), it makes subsequent charges less unthinkable... it's just a matter a degree now, not 'if'.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,335
    I can foresee a gag order coming Trump's way very soon.

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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,335
    That he's doubling down on this defence, I think he knows he's bang to rights on the documents case. It's on the same level as Johnson's defence of No.10's incessant covid partying... almost comically incoherent.

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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,538
    That AI image his son put up is the most hilariously desperate thing I've seen in a while. Trump followed by a horde of zombies carrying flags with the wrong number of stars and stripes.

    Maybe he hates his old man on the quiet.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,320
    rjsterry said:

    That AI image his son put up is the most hilariously desperate thing I've seen in a while. Trump followed by a horde of zombies carrying flags with the wrong number of stars and stripes.

    Maybe he hates his old man on the quiet.

    Maybe AI has discovered humour and is trolling the schmuck.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,312
    JimD666 said:

    The biggest problem is that none of it really matters. Unless he ends up being behind bars during the 2024 Presidential Election, he could still end up elected. Simply because the founders didn't think to exclude convicted duckwits from running for President.

    Unless he's also found guilty for the Capitol Riots. That could prove more of an issue.

    If they get that far down the line. This could get strung out and strung out where there is no conviction (yet) and he is president.
    Imagine being president and still facing numerous charges...

    It's possible. I mean he was voted as POTUS.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    kingstongraham said:

    I can't get excited about this - of all the ways he's terrible and broken the law, paying a blackmailer seems pretty small.

    I assume the charges relate to more than that though. When the case was first announced I couldn't see how paying hush money could be illegal. From what I saw mentioned briefly it is more about where the money came from to pay her off. After all there are 30 odd charges.
  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293
    pinno said:

    JimD666 said:

    The biggest problem is that none of it really matters. Unless he ends up being behind bars during the 2024 Presidential Election, he could still end up elected. Simply because the founders didn't think to exclude convicted duckwits from running for President.

    Unless he's also found guilty for the Capitol Riots. That could prove more of an issue.

    If they get that far down the line. This could get strung out and strung out where there is no conviction (yet) and he is president.
    Imagine being president and still facing numerous charges...

    It's possible. I mean he was voted as POTUS.
    It's entirely possible that he could be convicted, jailed and still run and win the presidency
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,557
    JimD666 said:

    pinno said:

    JimD666 said:

    The biggest problem is that none of it really matters. Unless he ends up being behind bars during the 2024 Presidential Election, he could still end up elected. Simply because the founders didn't think to exclude convicted duckwits from running for President.

    Unless he's also found guilty for the Capitol Riots. That could prove more of an issue.

    If they get that far down the line. This could get strung out and strung out where there is no conviction (yet) and he is president.
    Imagine being president and still facing numerous charges...

    It's possible. I mean he was voted as POTUS.
    It's entirely possible that he could be convicted, jailed and still run and win the presidency
    They mentioned on Sky News last night that the founding fathers hadn't thought to bar people with criminal convictions from standing for or becoming President.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,312
    The practicalities of being President whilst being in prison doesn't bear thinking about.
    Surely, even the Republicans can see that.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,335
    Pross said:

    kingstongraham said:

    I can't get excited about this - of all the ways he's terrible and broken the law, paying a blackmailer seems pretty small.

    I assume the charges relate to more than that though. When the case was first announced I couldn't see how paying hush money could be illegal. From what I saw mentioned briefly it is more about where the money came from to pay her off. After all there are 30 odd charges.

    I think that part of the thrust of the charges is conspiracy to defraud NY electors - in other words, it's not the payment itself, but the cover-up of the payment. I think the cover-up in the documents case will similarly be the central point - that even when he'd been told to return them, he personally and knowingly lied and obstructed.

    If all this comes to pass, I think he's going to go off-the-scale batshit crazy.
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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,815
    pinno said:

    The practicalities of being President whilst being in prison doesn't bear thinking about.
    Surely, even the Republicans can see that.

    If he's elected can he then pardon himself?
  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    She's got Don's back.

  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,312
    Wtf is she jabbering about?!
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  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    pinno said:

    Wtf is she jabbering about?!

    Clearly it all makes sense.....to her.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,160
    mrb123 said:

    pinno said:

    The practicalities of being President whilst being in prison doesn't bear thinking about.
    Surely, even the Republicans can see that.

    If he's elected can he then pardon himself?
    I think he looked into that, and the answer was probably not.

    His political career is effectively over now, but he will go down shouting. The high watermark from here on will be to mobilise his base, but his base isn't enough to get into office. There just aren't enough rednecks.

    The problem the Republicans have is that it might be enough to get the nomination.

    Part of me wonders if the smart move is to facilitate in the background more and more of these charges being brought, most significantly the election rigging in Georgia, to try to prevent him getting the nomination but still allow the Republicans to benefit from a grievance vote.
  • monkimark
    monkimark Posts: 1,928
    She appears to reboot halfway through and start on an entirely different conversation. Not that either of the threads seemed like they were going anywhere.

    The only part I actually understood is that the Vatican is in Switzerland....
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    monkimark said:

    She appears to reboot halfway through and start on an entirely different conversation. Not that either of the threads seemed like they were going anywhere.

    The only part I actually understood is that the Vatican is in Switzerland....

    It's the way her eyes seem to be trying to convey how clear her thinking is and how obvious her statements are. She keeps glancing at the camera as though she's saying 'can you believe she doesn't get this?'. I can't tell if it's some mental health issue, drugs or a combination,
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,160
    thegreatdivide said:

    pinno said:

    Wtf is she jabbering about?!

    Clearly it all makes sense.....to her.
    She's a comedian impersonating Trump, surely.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,312
    Thick. Nothing else.
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  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293
    Dorset_Boy said:

    JimD666 said:

    pinno said:

    JimD666 said:

    The biggest problem is that none of it really matters. Unless he ends up being behind bars during the 2024 Presidential Election, he could still end up elected. Simply because the founders didn't think to exclude convicted duckwits from running for President.

    Unless he's also found guilty for the Capitol Riots. That could prove more of an issue.

    If they get that far down the line. This could get strung out and strung out where there is no conviction (yet) and he is president.
    Imagine being president and still facing numerous charges...

    It's possible. I mean he was voted as POTUS.
    It's entirely possible that he could be convicted, jailed and still run and win the presidency
    They mentioned on Sky News last night that the founding fathers hadn't thought to bar people with criminal convictions from standing for or becoming President.
    It's only bankruptcy that stops anyone for running as a MP in the UK so it's not like our bar is much higher.

    The only good thing is it would be relatively simple to amend our rules. It's both the strength and weakness of a unwritten constitution. Amending the US Constitution is almost completely impossible these days.
  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,122
    thegreatdivide said:

    pinno said:

    Wtf is she jabbering about?!

    Clearly it all makes sense.....to her.
    Here is another one https://youtu.be/4Idtrr6qGho

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    I think of all the scandals he’s being investigated for this is the weakest. It might not stick according to the economist
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