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No it is base 10. 10 = 1 ten. No zeros. 50 = 5 tens. Similar to roman numerals. Imagine writing 5X instead.orraloon said:
Yebbut. Roman has the 10 as in X so is decimal system. Is Tamil a 9 base? And as for not saying nothing about a zero nothing.... Perhaps is too many decades in a simplez decimal system but brain no likey, no lighty.rjsterry said:
No zero in Roman numerals either.orraloon said:
Mathematics was never a strong point of mine. Arithmetic with the 1, 2....9, 0 system I'm fine with. Having googled about the lack of zero in the Tamil system, eh nope brain frazzle.pangolin said:Matt do you just mean Arabic numbers as they are commonly written in the Middle East, i.e. row 2
Anyone have a rudimentary explanation of how the Tamil system works?0 -
The only objectionable thing in that is Dotard's actions, the tweet is having a go at him for it. So what possible reason is there for flagging it?tailwindhome said:
If whoever flagged this post I made had an honest reason for doing so then feel free to PM me to discuss, thankstailwindhome said:0 -
What point are you making then? [Edit: trying to make, as you clearly didn't make it the first time].rick_chasey said:
I think this misses the point I’m making but ok.Stevo_666 said:rick_chasey said:Very good.
Some discussion that the joint letter from all the former defence heads suggests there was more of a coup aspect than perhaps we're taking for granted.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
None taken, but you are making the classic mistake of not differentiating between head of parties and parties themselves. I've made the point before, show me a viable UK political party that can represent my interests better than the Tories sand I will vote for them. Easy, isn't it?surrey_commuter said:
But the US system is far more partisan, the majority are like SteveO. So ask yourself would SteveO not vote Tory because Boris did that?kingstonian said:ddraver said:
Still?john80 said:
Yep that one of the days that would have derailed a general election campaign.tailwindhome said:
I dunno...
Taking the p!ss out of a disabled bloke so publicly? Definitely would kill someone’s political career in the UK.
This is not a go, he is just the most public on here about his partisanship
I'm sure a lot of Labour voters didn't approve of Corbyn but were happy to vote Labour anyway because they thought they would do better personally from having a Labour government in power."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
So am I misled by the absence of a character in the 0 column for Tamil? Or do they not do round 10 multiples of? Said maffs int my ting innit.TheBigBean said:
No it is base 10. 10 = 1 ten. No zeros. 50 = 5 tens. Similar to roman numerals. Imagine writing 5X instead.orraloon said:
Yebbut. Roman has the 10 as in X so is decimal system. Is Tamil a 9 base? And as for not saying nothing about a zero nothing.... Perhaps is too many decades in a simplez decimal system but brain no likey, no lighty.rjsterry said:
No zero in Roman numerals either.orraloon said:
Mathematics was never a strong point of mine. Arithmetic with the 1, 2....9, 0 system I'm fine with. Having googled about the lack of zero in the Tamil system, eh nope brain frazzle.pangolin said:Matt do you just mean Arabic numbers as they are commonly written in the Middle East, i.e. row 2
Anyone have a rudimentary explanation of how the Tamil system works?
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Base anything needs a zero. Roman numerals are functionally different in that there are only two symbols to get you from 1 to 9, rather than 9 different symbols. Because there is no symbol for zero you need an entirely different symbol for each power of ten (and corresponding 'half power' 5, 50, 500).orraloon said:
Yebbut. Roman has the 10 as in X so is decimal system. Is Tamil a 9 base? And as for not saying nothing about a zero nothing.... Perhaps is too many decades in a simplez decimal system but brain no likey, no lighty.rjsterry said:
No zero in Roman numerals either.orraloon said:
Mathematics was never a strong point of mine. Arithmetic with the 1, 2....9, 0 system I'm fine with. Having googled about the lack of zero in the Tamil system, eh nope brain frazzle.pangolin said:Matt do you just mean Arabic numbers as they are commonly written in the Middle East, i.e. row 2
Anyone have a rudimentary explanation of how the Tamil system works?1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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That there was a concerted effort on part of Trump and cronies to involve the military in the efforts but it was the military leaders saying “no” that binned it, is the inference of the letter.Stevo_666 said:
What point are you making then? [Edit: trying to make, as you clearly didn't make it the first time].rick_chasey said:
I think this misses the point I’m making but ok.Stevo_666 said:rick_chasey said:Very good.
Some discussion that the joint letter from all the former defence heads suggests there was more of a coup aspect than perhaps we're taking for granted.0 -
Interesting. Would be good to see the evidence.rick_chasey said:
That there was a concerted effort on part of Trump and cronies to involve the military in the efforts but it was the military leaders saying “no” that binned it, is the inference of the letter.Stevo_666 said:
What point are you making then? [Edit: trying to make, as you clearly didn't make it the first time].rick_chasey said:
I think this misses the point I’m making but ok.Stevo_666 said:rick_chasey said:Very good.
Some discussion that the joint letter from all the former defence heads suggests there was more of a coup aspect than perhaps we're taking for granted."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Question is whether that's over weeks, months or years. And whether they stay as part of the GOP or splinter off.Stevo_666 said:
I suspect the police and security services will be well prepared for that, I imagine they wouldn't want a repeat of this week. Expect this sort of thing to fade away: a bit like this thread will, thankfullyrjsterry said:
Another 'protest' in DC planned for 20th January by self-styled militia. Optimistic to think this is all done just because Biden will be sworn in.Stevo_666 said:
I rest my case then.elbowloh said:
The guys going in are just the cannon fodder, they're expendable.Stevo_666 said:
True, but anyone who sent that lot in would probably struggle to spell coup, never mind plan one.elbowloh said:
No one says a coup has to be led by geniuses. It did fail after all.Stevo_666 said:rick_chasey said:Very good.
Some discussion that the joint letter from all the former defence heads suggests there was more of a coup aspect than perhaps we're taking for granted.
Trump sent them in. He even told them he'd march up there with them, but then failed to do so.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Maybe, maybe not but either way I'm not that bothered. In the words of the Hitch Hikers Guide, it's an SEP (Somebody Else's Problem).rjsterry said:
Question is whether that's over weeks, months or years. And whether they stay as part of the GOP or splinter off.Stevo_666 said:
I suspect the police and security services will be well prepared for that, I imagine they wouldn't want a repeat of this week. Expect this sort of thing to fade away: a bit like this thread will, thankfullyrjsterry said:
Another 'protest' in DC planned for 20th January by self-styled militia. Optimistic to think this is all done just because Biden will be sworn in.Stevo_666 said:
I rest my case then.elbowloh said:
The guys going in are just the cannon fodder, they're expendable.Stevo_666 said:
True, but anyone who sent that lot in would probably struggle to spell coup, never mind plan one.elbowloh said:
No one says a coup has to be led by geniuses. It did fail after all.Stevo_666 said:rick_chasey said:Very good.
Some discussion that the joint letter from all the former defence heads suggests there was more of a coup aspect than perhaps we're taking for granted.
Trump sent them in. He even told them he'd march up there with them, but then failed to do so."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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Good. Let's see how he gets oxygen without scrutiny going forwards.briantrumpet said:0 -
the glee of the never trumpers about silencing opposition is, to me at least, more concerning than trump himself.
Cancel culture at its best.0 -
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I have a feeling enlightenment isn't is his repertoire.rick_chasey said:Do enlighten us on the things you can’t say or do anymore.
The last paragraph of twitter's reasoned decision gives more than enough cause to cancel, culture or not.
Plans for future armed protests have already begun proliferating on and off-Twitter, including a proposed secondary attack on the US Capitol and state capitol buildings on January 17, 2021.
https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspension.html"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Trump junior is on Twitter keeping things ticking over.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
The letter is easy to find. Last 10 defence secretaries including Chaney who vowed never to do politics again.Stevo_666 said:
Interesting. Would be good to see the evidence.rick_chasey said:
That there was a concerted effort on part of Trump and cronies to involve the military in the efforts but it was the military leaders saying “no” that binned it, is the inference of the letter.Stevo_666 said:
What point are you making then? [Edit: trying to make, as you clearly didn't make it the first time].rick_chasey said:
I think this misses the point I’m making but ok.Stevo_666 said:rick_chasey said:Very good.
Some discussion that the joint letter from all the former defence heads suggests there was more of a coup aspect than perhaps we're taking for granted.
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TBH it wouldn’t be a bad thing if they banned all people in government.
No PMs, no MPs. The lot.
Do they even need to be on Twitter.
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Does anyone need to be on Twitter?rick_chasey said:TBH it wouldn’t be a bad thing if they banned all people in government.
No PMs, no MPs. The lot.
Do they even need to be on Twitter.2 -
The precedent has now been finally established that online platforms can and do have responsibility for online content they host.
It’s a significant moment. A good one imho. The scourge of misinformation is one of the biggest threats we are facing.
It’s not censorship, the internet is free to use. Host your own content, post what you like, face the legal consequences of any laws you break.
The laws may be contentious, that’s an entirely different matter.0 -
Mmm it’s not quite so simple.morstar said:The precedent has now been finally established that online platforms can and do have responsibility for online content they host.
It’s a significant moment. A good one imho. The scourge of misinformation is one of the biggest threats we are facing.
It’s not censorship, the internet is free to use. Host your own content, post what you like, face the legal consequences of any laws you break.
The laws may be contentious, that’s an entirely different matter.
Eventually nations will settle on the best way to regulate these things.
Twitter clearly has some impact on discourse and how nations are governed as do other social media sites so to have them wholly in charge of what they host is likely unsustainable.0 -
Never said it was simple. I’m not a complete idiot.rick_chasey said:
Mmm it’s not quite so simple.morstar said:The precedent has now been finally established that online platforms can and do have responsibility for online content they host.
It’s a significant moment. A good one imho. The scourge of misinformation is one of the biggest threats we are facing.
It’s not censorship, the internet is free to use. Host your own content, post what you like, face the legal consequences of any laws you break.
The laws may be contentious, that’s an entirely different matter.
Eventually nations will settle on the best way to regulate these things.
Twitter clearly has some impact on discourse and how nations are governed as do other social media sites so to have them wholly in charge of what they host is likely unsustainable.
A precedent has been set, that’s all.
It’s not legally binding and it’s not necessarily the start of anything more significant by the social media companies themselves. But it is a significant milestone precedent.
I guarantee these actions will get referenced in court at multiple points in the future by all sides of the free speech, censorship, social media legislation debate.1 -
My comment was a reference to governing.TheBigBean said:
Does anyone need to be on Twitter?rick_chasey said:TBH it wouldn’t be a bad thing if they banned all people in government.
No PMs, no MPs. The lot.
Do they even need to be on Twitter.
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I'm not sure Twitter has any obligation to follow the precident they set for themselves though?
It's an interesting moment, shows politicians probably still have to keep some ties with traditional media, and shows that Twitter won't stand for being a complete free for all, no matter how big a draw you are.0 -
And my comment was a reference to everyone.rick_chasey said:
My comment was a reference to governing.TheBigBean said:
Does anyone need to be on Twitter?rick_chasey said:TBH it wouldn’t be a bad thing if they banned all people in government.
No PMs, no MPs. The lot.
Do they even need to be on Twitter.0 -
Ok shall we list all the things you don’t need but do do?TheBigBean said:
And my comment was a reference to everyone.rick_chasey said:
My comment was a reference to governing.TheBigBean said:
Does anyone need to be on Twitter?rick_chasey said:TBH it wouldn’t be a bad thing if they banned all people in government.
No PMs, no MPs. The lot.
Do they even need to be on Twitter.
That seems really constructive.
I’ll start: replying to my comment with a pointless one that misses the point.0 -
If you like. I'm just not sure what value twitter adds to anythingrick_chasey said:
Ok shall we list all the things you don’t need but do do?TheBigBean said:
And my comment was a reference to everyone.rick_chasey said:
My comment was a reference to governing.TheBigBean said:
Does anyone need to be on Twitter?rick_chasey said:TBH it wouldn’t be a bad thing if they banned all people in government.
No PMs, no MPs. The lot.
Do they even need to be on Twitter.
That seems really constructive.
I’ll start: replying to my comment with a pointless one that misses the point.0
