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  • swjohnsey
    swjohnsey Posts: 263
    kingstongraham said:

    swjohnsey said:

    I asked my wife today to name the prime minister of England. Not a clue. The same question to my next door neighbor. "What's a prime minister?" I really don't understand y'all's interest in our presidential election.

    I'm sorry to hear that Mrs Mitty is so ignorant of world affairs.
    To be honest, she couldn't tell you who the president of Mexico or the prime minister of Canada was, either.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    swjohnsey said:

    kingstongraham said:

    swjohnsey said:

    I asked my wife today to name the prime minister of England. Not a clue. The same question to my next door neighbor. "What's a prime minister?" I really don't understand y'all's interest in our presidential election.

    I'm sorry to hear that Mrs Mitty is so ignorant of world affairs.
    To be honest, she couldn't tell you who the president of Mexico or the prime minister of Canada was, either.
    Govenor of Texas?
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328
    swjohnsey said:

    I asked my wife today to name the prime minister of England. Not a clue. The same question to my next door neighbor. "What's a prime minister?" I really don't understand y'all's interest in our presidential election.

    We get to laugh at the whole situation from a relatively safe distance.
    If you can't see the ridiculousness of it all then you have no sense of humour.
    What would cap it all off would be Biden's majority increase on a recount. 🤣🤣🤣
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • swjohnsey
    swjohnsey Posts: 263
    First.Aspect said:

    swjohnsey said:

    kingstongraham said:

    swjohnsey said:

    I asked my wife today to name the prime minister of England. Not a clue. The same question to my next door neighbor. "What's a prime minister?" I really don't understand y'all's interest in our presidential election.

    I'm sorry to hear that Mrs Mitty is so ignorant of world affairs.
    To be honest, she couldn't tell you who the president of Mexico or the prime minister of Canada was, either.
    Govenor of Texas?
    Yeah, we met the governor of Texas.
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    swjohnsey said:

    I asked my wife today to name the prime minister of England. Not a clue. The same question to my next door neighbor. "What's a prime minister?" I really don't understand y'all's interest in our presidential election.

    England doesn't have a prime minister
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    First.Aspect said:

    swjohnsey said:

    I asked my wife today to name the prime minister of England. Not a clue. The same question to my next door neighbor. "What's a prime minister?" I really don't understand y'all's interest in our presidential election.

    It would only be a fair test if you asled her what a president was. For all we know she thinks it is a camambert.
    Ask her who the president of the usa is.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    darkhairedlord said:

    First.Aspect said:

    swjohnsey said:

    I asked my wife today to name the prime minister of England. Not a clue. The same question to my next door neighbor. "What's a prime minister?" I really don't understand y'all's interest in our presidential election.

    It would only be a fair test if you asled her what a president was. For all we know she thinks it is a camambert.
    Ask her who the president of the usa is.
    nobody knows
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328
    darkhairedlord said:

    swjohnsey said:

    I asked my wife today to name the prime minister of England. Not a clue. The same question to my next door neighbor. "What's a prime minister?" I really don't understand y'all's interest in our presidential election.

    England doesn't have a prime minister
    Surprisingly enough, that is the kind of mistake a Texan would make. 🤔
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • swjohnsey
    swjohnsey Posts: 263
    First.Aspect said:

    darkhairedlord said:

    First.Aspect said:

    swjohnsey said:

    I asked my wife today to name the prime minister of England. Not a clue. The same question to my next door neighbor. "What's a prime minister?" I really don't understand y'all's interest in our presidential election.

    It would only be a fair test if you asled her what a president was. For all we know she thinks it is a camambert.
    Ask her who the president of the usa is.
    nobody knows
    Donald Trump is president of the U.S. and will be until January 20 at the least.
  • swjohnsey
    swjohnsey Posts: 263
    pblakeney said:

    darkhairedlord said:

    swjohnsey said:

    I asked my wife today to name the prime minister of England. Not a clue. The same question to my next door neighbor. "What's a prime minister?" I really don't understand y'all's interest in our presidential election.

    England doesn't have a prime minister
    Surprisingly enough, that is the kind of mistake a Texan would make. 🤔
    All that Great Brittan, United Kingdom, England stuff is very confusing to us colonials. Your currency is a little less confusing, now.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,318
    First.Aspect said:

    swjohnsey said:

    I asked my wife today to name the prime minister of England. Not a clue. The same question to my next door neighbor. "What's a prime minister?" I really don't understand y'all's interest in our presidential election.

    It would only be a fair test if you asled her what a president was. For all we know she thinks it is a camambert.
    ...and I discovered that President Brie is made here in my home town, wait for it - in Jockland.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328
    swjohnsey said:

    pblakeney said:

    darkhairedlord said:

    swjohnsey said:

    I asked my wife today to name the prime minister of England. Not a clue. The same question to my next door neighbor. "What's a prime minister?" I really don't understand y'all's interest in our presidential election.

    England doesn't have a prime minister
    Surprisingly enough, that is the kind of mistake a Texan would make. 🤔
    All that Great Brittan, United Kingdom, England stuff is very confusing to us colonials. Your currency is a little less confusing, now.
    ...and back on track.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    pblakeney said:

    swjohnsey said:

    pblakeney said:

    darkhairedlord said:

    swjohnsey said:

    I asked my wife today to name the prime minister of England. Not a clue. The same question to my next door neighbor. "What's a prime minister?" I really don't understand y'all's interest in our presidential election.

    England doesn't have a prime minister
    Surprisingly enough, that is the kind of mistake a Texan would make. 🤔
    All that Great Brittan, United Kingdom, England stuff is very confusing to us colonials. Your currency is a little less confusing, now.
    ...and back on track.
    Skilfully deployed spelling mistakes.
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    I think the many in the US are just not concerned as what happens elsewhere inthe world. Only 42% of US citizens have a passport. In the UK it's 76%.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    If we could have travelled within the EU without a passport, I bet it would be many fewer.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    elbowloh said:

    I think the many in the US are just not concerned as what happens elsewhere inthe world. Only 42% of US citizens have a passport. In the UK it's 76%.

    Very true. The main problem with the MAGA philosophy is that it ulimately encourages the rest of the world to tell the US to fuck off, and learn to manage without it, thus bringing forward the inevitable result that the US isn't that great any more.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    swjohnsey said:

    elbowloh said:

    swjohnsey said:

    First.Aspect said:

    swjohnsey said:

    First.Aspect said:

    swjohnsey said:

    Yeah, sayin' Trump supporters are a bunch of ignorant crackers isn't. My statement is fact but yes, it is a generalization. Black support for the Democrat Party has run as high as 95% in recent years. Trump made serious inroads into the Hispanic community especially in the Cuban-American community in Florida.

    Far be it from me to assume that you need to be an ignorant cracker to think that black people and hispanics are illegal immigrant benefit sponges.
    Did I say that? To be fair, Blacks make up about 12% of U.S. population but only 40% of those on welfare.
    Yes, you did. And I am being fair.

    Next question, what in your (small) mind does that stat tell you?
    That folks need to get a job and stop knocking out kids they can't support? Last count 75% of Black children born in the U.S. are to single mothers.
    All the daddies were shot by the police...

    I would do a winking face to signify a joke, but it's not really a laughing (BL) matter.
    Every year around 1,000 civilians in the U.S. are killed by the police. In 2019 the number was 1,004, 370 White, 235 Black, 158 Hispanic and the balance race other or not given. I don't think it will make a difference.
    But by your own admission only 12% of the US is classed as Black so even if none of the unknowns are Black they are still roughly twice as likely to get shot per capita.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    I wonder at what point levels of racism in posts gets the mods on here interested. Some of the recent posts on this thread go beyond questionable taste.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    Flag them, see if it helps
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    kingstongraham said:

    Flag them, see if it helps

    Tried. The answer is no.

    I still can't decide if we are dealing with an elderly hick from Texas or someone taking an opportunity to float some questionable attitudes under such a guise. On balance the latter. The spelling mistakes are too deliberate and the UK specific cultural references aren't causing enough confusion. Also, how many Bromptons are sold in the US, really.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    First.Aspect said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Flag them, see if it helps

    Tried. The answer is no.

    I still can't decide if we are dealing with an elderly hick from Texas or someone taking an opportunity to float some questionable attitudes under such a guise. On balance the latter. The spelling mistakes are too deliberate and the UK specific cultural references aren't causing enough confusion. Also, how many Bromptons are sold in the US, really.
    100% troll behaviour. Mods do have the power to check IPs etc.
    _
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    First.Aspect said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Flag them, see if it helps

    Tried. The answer is no.

    I still can't decide if we are dealing with an elderly hick from Texas or someone taking an opportunity to float some questionable attitudes under such a guise. On balance the latter. The spelling mistakes are too deliberate and the UK specific cultural references aren't causing enough confusion. Also, how many Bromptons are sold in the US, really.
    I don't think it matters whether it's a real person or not when it's that racist.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    kingstongraham said:

    First.Aspect said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Flag them, see if it helps

    Tried. The answer is no.

    I still can't decide if we are dealing with an elderly hick from Texas or someone taking an opportunity to float some questionable attitudes under such a guise. On balance the latter. The spelling mistakes are too deliberate and the UK specific cultural references aren't causing enough confusion. Also, how many Bromptons are sold in the US, really.
    I don't think it matters whether it's a real person or not when it's that racist.
    kingstongraham said:

    First.Aspect said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Flag them, see if it helps

    Tried. The answer is no.

    I still can't decide if we are dealing with an elderly hick from Texas or someone taking an opportunity to float some questionable attitudes under such a guise. On balance the latter. The spelling mistakes are too deliberate and the UK specific cultural references aren't causing enough confusion. Also, how many Bromptons are sold in the US, really.
    I don't think it matters whether it's a real person or not when it's that racist.
    Quite.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    edited November 2020
    joenobody said:

    pinno said:

    When the dust finally settles, it will be clear the damage Trump has done to the Republican party (and trust in government).

    I don't know if this is true, at least to the Trump base/Republican supporters. This is a message I received from a family friend when I asked what she thought of the current situation (post the declaration of Biden as president-elect and Trump's statement regarding legal challenges):

    -snip - was messing up the quotes-

    I have a feeling, of course unsubstantiated, that this view is not unique. Trump's actions actually reinforce this, IMO, and whoever the candidate is, Republican voters will continue to support their party for the reasons given above.

    I didn't dig in to the BoJo reference - it's a rabbit hole I didn't want to go down...
    But... Of course this election looked different to elections in 1982 - how many postal votes were there then?

    That bit about algorithms is nonsense as well.
  • joenobody
    joenobody Posts: 563
    bobmcstuff said:

    But... Of course this election looked different to elections in 1982 - how many postal votes were there then?

    That bit about algorithms is nonsense as well.

    Exactly. I talked about cognitive bias with her and she said this:
    I heard someone say, "bias makes us stupid." Although I was aware of the truth to that, it was a slap myself on the head moment. Of course it makes us stupid because we can't see beyond it! Just saying...
    I thought it meant she was trying to be more open-minded, but I see now that she felt I needed to be more so :# I am, and I've been looking at some of the claims relating to the algos, etc, but there's just nothing credible to support the claims. Yet Trump supporters are saying that anyone who doesn't support him is brainwashed/convinced by fake news, etc. I know that's not a new thing, but I'm still staggered that people don't see the hypocrisy there.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    edited November 2020
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/where-we-saw-red-and-blue-mirages-on-election-night/

    Interesting article about "red mirage" and "blue mirage".

    Trump fans also celebrating NC and Alaska being projected for Trump... While condemning the news networks projecting MI, WI, PA, GA, NV for Biden... Even though the NC margin is fairly close, within some of those Biden states in % or # terms (Alaska was never in doubt though). I don't understand how these people are able to hold such clearly incompatible views in their heads.

    Biden was initially ahead in North Carolina - it is essentially a mirror image of PA and GA - this is because the postal votes in NC were counted in advance:



    In states with a "blue mirage" (ones which counted postal early, roughly), they are celebrating Trump's eventual victory, but in ones with a "red mirage" (ones which counted postal votes late, roughly), it must be a sign of massive electoral fraud...
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    edited November 2020
    Some really damning stuff in there..... :smiley:

    Trump's lawyers have pulled out of one of the lawsuits in Arizona. Doesn't bode very well for him.

    Apparently it would only have covered a very small number of in person election day votes anyway (<200).
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    kingstongraham said:

    So what's the issue exactly? That people voted illegally because they voted democrat?
  • swjohnsey
    swjohnsey Posts: 263
    Georgia is doing a hand recount of 100% of the votes. It will be over by November 20. It will be interesting to see the outcome.

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