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Also on the fraud thing - you have to wonder why if the Democrats are rigging the election, why Republicans did so well further down the ballot. They significantly outperformed expectations in the House and Senate races, and did much better than Trump.
The obvious explanation to me is that there are plenty of people happy to vote Republican (especially locally) but not to have Trump as president. If there was lots of vote rigging, why hasn't the Senate flipped? This was meant to be pretty likely before the election. Plenty of people must have voted Biden for President but a Republican for the House or Senate seat. Doesn't really fit the fraud narrative does it.0 -
Clutching at straws...swjohnsey said:Georgia is doing a hand recount of 100% of the votes. It will be over by November 20. It will be interesting to see the outcome.
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What are you expecting? Of the 7000 vote swing he needs - 100? 300? Which way?swjohnsey said:Georgia is doing a hand recount of 100% of the votes. It will be over by November 20. It will be interesting to see the outcome.
Will you accept the result anyway, or only if Trump himself does it and ticks off every ballot against his name to show he's checked it?0 -
I'm not expecting much of a change. Whether I accept the result or not is immaterial, I don't live in Georgia or have any standing.0
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Yes, now you're getting it!First.Aspect said:
So what's the issue exactly? That people voted illegally because they voted democrat?kingstongraham said:0 -
The Georgia recount will be paper ballots only. As you can see by the initial election result the population is about evenly split between Republican and Democrat. Both sides will be represented during the recount.
When you go to the bank and make a withdrawal the teller counts out your money. Do you recount it when you get it? Why?
I don't expect much of a change in the election result but a recount is required by law in Georgia in close elections. This is not a Trump invention.0 -
Yes, the poll watcher had heard that people on active military service vote republican, so raised an issue when there were absentee military votes for Biden. That's it.First.Aspect said:
So what's the issue exactly? That people voted illegally because they voted democrat?kingstongraham said:0 -
Georgia hasn't been called, and trump has already lost.swjohnsey said:The Georgia recount will be paper ballots only. As you can see by the initial election result the population is about evenly split between Republican and Democrat. Both sides will be represented during the recount.
When you go to the bank and make a withdrawal the teller counts out your money. Do you recount it when you get it? Why?
I don't expect much of a change in the election result but a recount is required by law in Georgia in close elections. This is not a Trump invention.0 -
Didn't Trump call soldiers who died in service "losers" and "suckers"... So why would that be any surprise?kingstongraham said:
Yes, the poll watcher had heard that people on active military service vote republican, so raised an issue when there were absentee military votes for Biden. That's it.First.Aspect said:
So what's the issue exactly? That people voted illegally because they voted democrat?kingstongraham said:0 -
If there won't be much of a change, why is it interesting to watch and why is it happening at all?swjohnsey said:I'm not expecting much of a change. Whether I accept the result or not is immaterial, I don't live in Georgia or have any standing.
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Tick tock. Trying to keep it going until 8th December and stay on even though he lost. Needs three states to go against their voters' preference and if he even tried it, would be the most outrageous thing he's done.First.Aspect said:
If there won't be much of a change, why is it interesting to watch and why is it happening at all?swjohnsey said:I'm not expecting much of a change. Whether I accept the result or not is immaterial, I don't live in Georgia or have any standing.
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Trump has a right to request a recount if it is less than 0.5% (it is currently 0.28%, although that is 14k votes so the recount is unlikely to make a big difference). I don't think he has done that though - but the state is required to do an audit of at least one race and the Republican secretary of state chose the presidential race. He has been under pressure, especially from the two Georgia senators whose seats are going to a runoff.First.Aspect said:
If there won't be much of a change, why is it interesting to watch and why is it happening at all?swjohnsey said:I'm not expecting much of a change. Whether I accept the result or not is immaterial, I don't live in Georgia or have any standing.
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Trump didn't request the Georgia recount - the secretary of state chose to do it.kingstongraham said:
Tick tock. Trying to keep it going until 8th December and stay on even though he lost. Needs three states to go against their voters' preference and if he even tried it, would be the most outrageous thing he's done.First.Aspect said:
If there won't be much of a change, why is it interesting to watch and why is it happening at all?swjohnsey said:I'm not expecting much of a change. Whether I accept the result or not is immaterial, I don't live in Georgia or have any standing.
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Fair point. The whole reason that it is happening is because he isn't accepting the reality of his loss though. Anything that prolongs it is in his deranged mind a good thing.bobmcstuff said:
Trump didn't request the Georgia recount - the secretary of state chose to do it.kingstongraham said:
Tick tock. Trying to keep it going until 8th December and stay on even though he lost. Needs three states to go against their voters' preference and if he even tried it, would be the most outrageous thing he's done.First.Aspect said:
If there won't be much of a change, why is it interesting to watch and why is it happening at all?swjohnsey said:I'm not expecting much of a change. Whether I accept the result or not is immaterial, I don't live in Georgia or have any standing.
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bompington said:
Yes, now you're getting it!First.Aspect said:
So what's the issue exactly? That people voted illegally because they voted democrat?kingstongraham said:
Exactly. They are military and he is their commander in chief. It is disloyalty to not vote trump, treason even. They swear an oath to trump.bompington said:
Yes, now you're getting it!First.Aspect said:
So what's the issue exactly? That people voted illegally because they voted democrat?kingstongraham said:0 -
I thought they were banning it.kingstongraham said:
Tick tock. Trying to keep it going until 8th December and stay on even though he lost. Needs three states to go against their voters' preference and if he even tried it, would be the most outrageous thing he's done.First.Aspect said:
If there won't be much of a change, why is it interesting to watch and why is it happening at all?swjohnsey said:I'm not expecting much of a change. Whether I accept the result or not is immaterial, I don't live in Georgia or have any standing.
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"@FoxNews
daytime ratings have completely collapsed. Weekend daytime even WORSE. Very sad to watch this happen, but they forgot what made them successful, what got them there. They forgot the Golden Goose. The biggest difference between the 2016 Election, and 2020, was
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Small success for Trump - court orders that Pennsylvania provisional ballots where they had not provided ID before 9th Nov to be discounted (the deadline had been extended to 12th but the court ruled the secretary of state didn't have authority to make an extension). Likely only affects a very few votes though and Biden leads by 45k...0
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It's bad to change the rules during the process, but there can't be many of those.bobmcstuff said:Small success for Trump - court orders that Pennsylvania provisional ballots where they had not provided ID before 9th Nov to be discounted (the deadline had been extended to 12th but the court ruled the secretary of state didn't have authority to make an extension). Likely only affects a very few votes though and Biden leads by 45k...
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Because it is Georgia election law?First.Aspect said:
If there won't be much of a change, why is it interesting to watch and why is it happening at all?swjohnsey said:I'm not expecting much of a change. Whether I accept the result or not is immaterial, I don't live in Georgia or have any standing.
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He is president of these united states until January 20 if he lost every state. When Algore lost the Clinton administration refused to give any transition funding or office space to Dubya and when the moved out of the White House they removed the W from every keyboard.kingstongraham said:
Tick tock. Trying to keep it going until 8th December and stay on even though he lost. Needs three states to go against their voters' preference and if he even tried it, would be the most outrageous thing he's done.First.Aspect said:
If there won't be much of a change, why is it interesting to watch and why is it happening at all?swjohnsey said:I'm not expecting much of a change. Whether I accept the result or not is immaterial, I don't live in Georgia or have any standing.
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I think it's about 9k, so is immaterial. They'd kept them separate for this eventuality.kingstongraham said:
It's bad to change the rules during the process, but there can't be many of those.bobmcstuff said:Small success for Trump - court orders that Pennsylvania provisional ballots where they had not provided ID before 9th Nov to be discounted (the deadline had been extended to 12th but the court ruled the secretary of state didn't have authority to make an extension). Likely only affects a very few votes though and Biden leads by 45k...
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No they don't. I took the oath several times over my twenty years and it was to protect and defend the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. From personal experience most folks in the military are Republican, most, not all.darkhairedlord said:bompington said:
Yes, now you're getting it!First.Aspect said:
So what's the issue exactly? That people voted illegally because they voted democrat?kingstongraham said:
Exactly. They are military and he is their commander in chief. It is disloyalty to not vote trump, treason even. They swear an oath to trump.bompington said:
Yes, now you're getting it!First.Aspect said:
So what's the issue exactly? That people voted illegally because they voted democrat?kingstongraham said:0 -
I knew it! Trump's fault.kingstongraham said:0 -
pblakeney said:
It's always sad when your bestie finds a new bestie. 🤣🤣🤣
"@FoxNews
daytime ratings have completely collapsed. Weekend daytime even WORSE. Very sad to watch this happen, but they forgot what made them successful, what got them there. They forgot the Golden Goose. The biggest difference between the 2016 Election, and 2020, was
@FoxNews!"
Fox News certainly seems to have blocked Trump: no support in a couple of days in their Twitter feed, and actually posted this:
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After the Clinton election night celebration it was the clap!kingstongraham said:0 -
A full hand recount of all the votes isn't mandated by Georgia election law.swjohnsey said:
Because it is Georgia election law?First.Aspect said:
If there won't be much of a change, why is it interesting to watch and why is it happening at all?swjohnsey said:I'm not expecting much of a change. Whether I accept the result or not is immaterial, I don't live in Georgia or have any standing.
They have to do an audit of one race. This is usually hand spot checks, apparently. They have gone for the nuclear option, presumably because the Republican secretary of state - who's been defending the process - has been under a lot of pressure from the party.
Trump can still request a recount after this - but it would be done by machine.0 -
Whoosh.swjohnsey said:
No they don't. I took the oath several times over my twenty years and it was to protect and defend the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. From personal experience most folks in the military are Republican, most, not all.darkhairedlord said:bompington said:
Yes, now you're getting it!First.Aspect said:
So what's the issue exactly? That people voted illegally because they voted democrat?kingstongraham said:
Exactly. They are military and he is their commander in chief. It is disloyalty to not vote trump, treason even. They swear an oath to trump.bompington said:
Yes, now you're getting it!First.Aspect said:
So what's the issue exactly? That people voted illegally because they voted democrat?kingstongraham said:0
