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The argument part.pangolin said:
Which bit?First.Aspect said:
Eh?pangolin said:Standardisation is always going to be a challenge with things as big as the NHS. I think a lot of the problems in discussing it are 1 person's anecdotal experience doesn't agree with another person's, so they just argue rather than acknowledge they might both be telling the truth about what they experienced.
Bob says NHS is sh!t. Frank says it's great. Bob really did had a terrible experience with his specific GP / consultant / nurse / whatever. Frank had a great one. Argument ensues.
It is hard for any org that big to provide a consistent service, of whatever level.
My mum and dad both relatively recently had fantastic care. I didn't. I'm not arguing with myself either.0 -
Sorry. I did say that it would make an interesting thread all by itself.pinno said:I have attended/stayed in the following hospitals:
The Hammersmith
Bristol - St Micheals
Cheltenham General
Glasgow Royal
The Golden Jubilee, Glasgow
Dumfries and Galloway Royal Infirmary
Oxford Nuffield and
The Edinburgh Western
With a contrast in experiences.
...nut none of that is relevant to this thread.
Can we get back on topic please?
Anyhow. The Fourth Reich. How's that going today? Herr Trump has recommended padding the ballots in swing states I hear.0 -
Sure, I meant more you see people who don't know each other arguing about whether it is good or not online. Anyway, not very Trump related as Pinno says.First.Aspect said:
The argument part.pangolin said:
Which bit?First.Aspect said:
Eh?pangolin said:Standardisation is always going to be a challenge with things as big as the NHS. I think a lot of the problems in discussing it are 1 person's anecdotal experience doesn't agree with another person's, so they just argue rather than acknowledge they might both be telling the truth about what they experienced.
Bob says NHS is sh!t. Frank says it's great. Bob really did had a terrible experience with his specific GP / consultant / nurse / whatever. Frank had a great one. Argument ensues.
It is hard for any org that big to provide a consistent service, of whatever level.
My mum and dad both relatively recently had fantastic care. I didn't. I'm not arguing with myself either.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Did you have a debate with yourself whether or not to put this in the irony thread? 🤣🤣🤣kingstongraham said:The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Definitely not in the best possible taste... but the Lincoln Project folk are having vicious fun...
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Could make a forum version using Rick's postsbriantrumpet said:Definitely not in the best possible taste... but the Lincoln Project folk are having vicious fun...
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54045115
I find this amusing! I’m sure there’s a joke in there somewhere.0 -
morstar said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54045115
I find this amusing! I’m sure there’s a joke in there somewhere.
It's been called "Dumbkirk" on Twitter.2 -
Trump's support is sinking!morstar said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54045115
I find this amusing! I’m sure there’s a joke in there somewhere.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Just shows how messed up the world is when someone decides to start promoting trump for a nobel peace prize.0
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150,000 new gun sales per day.
Militia's everywhere.
Teetering on the edge?
...and we're hoping bigly trade deals to bail us out after Brexit.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
According to a podcast that I listen to L.A. is on the verge of melt down and those that can are leaving. The rich have already left N.Y.pinno said:150,000 new gun sales per day.
Militia's everywhere.
Teetering on the edge?
...and we're hoping bigly trade deals to bail us out after Brexit.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
All to do with the kind of hulls guys down there typically buy and the speed at which they were told to go.pblakeney said:
Trump's support is sinking!morstar said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54045115
I find this amusing! I’m sure there’s a joke in there somewhere.
They’re not displacement hulls so to keep the wake low you either need to go really slow or fast - they instead set the speed at 10mph which is near to maximum drag for these things.
Plus they were all going in the same direction - so you’ll get some pretty big waves at various points.0 -
Why is this controversial? Everybody with a television knew about C19 in January, it is inconceivable that the head of any State would know less than a casual viewer of the news.briantrumpet said:0 -
His later denials.surrey_commuter said:
Why is this controversial?The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
As pointed out by someone else, any member of any national parliament may nominate anyone. It's not that he's made the shortlist.john80 said:Just shows how messed up the world is when someone decides to start promoting trump for a nobel peace prize.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
His statements about how it is just like the flu, it's a hoax, it's just because the impeachment didn't work, it will soon be down to zero, it will all be over by April - they weren't just him riffing without any knowledge. Not just him being Trump and not listening to briefings. That was deliberately misleading his public, and cost lives.surrey_commuter said:
Why is this controversial? Everybody with a television knew about C19 in January, it is inconceivable that the head of any State would know less than a casual viewer of the news.briantrumpet said:0 -
Oh, so I just need to ask a friend of a friend for a favour and I could be a nobel prize for chemistry nominee? Would be nice for the CV.rjsterry said:
As pointed out by someone else, any member of any national parliament may nominate anyone. It's not that he's made the shortlist.john80 said:Just shows how messed up the world is when someone decides to start promoting trump for a nobel peace prize.
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Hopefully the actual interview recordings will be leaked. Otherwise will just be shouted down as fake news by a democrat journalist.kingstongraham said:
His statements about how it is just like the flu, it's a hoax, it's just because the impeachment didn't work, it will soon be down to zero, it will all be over by April - they weren't just him riffing without any knowledge. Not just him being Trump and not listening to briefings. That was deliberately misleading his public, and cost lives.surrey_commuter said:
Why is this controversial? Everybody with a television knew about C19 in January, it is inconceivable that the head of any State would know less than a casual viewer of the news.briantrumpet said:0 -
Am reminded how Obama got given it by not being Bush.rjsterry said:
As pointed out by someone else, any member of any national parliament may nominate anyone. It's not that he's made the shortlist.john80 said:Just shows how messed up the world is when someone decides to start promoting trump for a nobel peace prize.
In hindsight doesn't look so good...0 -
He's released some of them already.First.Aspect said:
Hopefully the actual interview recordings will be leaked. Otherwise will just be shouted down as fake news by a democrat journalist.kingstongraham said:
His statements about how it is just like the flu, it's a hoax, it's just because the impeachment didn't work, it will soon be down to zero, it will all be over by April - they weren't just him riffing without any knowledge. Not just him being Trump and not listening to briefings. That was deliberately misleading his public, and cost lives.surrey_commuter said:
Why is this controversial? Everybody with a television knew about C19 in January, it is inconceivable that the head of any State would know less than a casual viewer of the news.briantrumpet said:
Feb 7
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Catching Trump saying awful things on tape did......nothing in the last election.kingstongraham said:
He's released some of them already.First.Aspect said:
Hopefully the actual interview recordings will be leaked. Otherwise will just be shouted down as fake news by a democrat journalist.kingstongraham said:
His statements about how it is just like the flu, it's a hoax, it's just because the impeachment didn't work, it will soon be down to zero, it will all be over by April - they weren't just him riffing without any knowledge. Not just him being Trump and not listening to briefings. That was deliberately misleading his public, and cost lives.surrey_commuter said:
Why is this controversial? Everybody with a television knew about C19 in January, it is inconceivable that the head of any State would know less than a casual viewer of the news.briantrumpet said:
Feb 7
Look closer to home. If your side in the culture war says black is white and up is done people will just agree.
No different there.1 -
Might be different if he's killed your momrick_chasey said:
Catching Trump saying awful things on tape did......nothing in the last election.kingstongraham said:
He's released some of them already.First.Aspect said:
Hopefully the actual interview recordings will be leaked. Otherwise will just be shouted down as fake news by a democrat journalist.kingstongraham said:
His statements about how it is just like the flu, it's a hoax, it's just because the impeachment didn't work, it will soon be down to zero, it will all be over by April - they weren't just him riffing without any knowledge. Not just him being Trump and not listening to briefings. That was deliberately misleading his public, and cost lives.surrey_commuter said:
Why is this controversial? Everybody with a television knew about C19 in January, it is inconceivable that the head of any State would know less than a casual viewer of the news.briantrumpet said:
Feb 7
Look closer to home. If your side in the culture war says black is white and up is done people will just agree.
No different there.0 -
Not sure. Depends what else there is. 200,000 dead people will have several million bereaved relatives. As will however many million unemployed people (probably more important to your average American).rick_chasey said:
Catching Trump saying awful things on tape did......nothing in the last election.kingstongraham said:
He's released some of them already.First.Aspect said:
Hopefully the actual interview recordings will be leaked. Otherwise will just be shouted down as fake news by a democrat journalist.kingstongraham said:
His statements about how it is just like the flu, it's a hoax, it's just because the impeachment didn't work, it will soon be down to zero, it will all be over by April - they weren't just him riffing without any knowledge. Not just him being Trump and not listening to briefings. That was deliberately misleading his public, and cost lives.surrey_commuter said:
Why is this controversial? Everybody with a television knew about C19 in January, it is inconceivable that the head of any State would know less than a casual viewer of the news.briantrumpet said:
Feb 7
Look closer to home. If your side in the culture war says black is white and up is done people will just agree.
No different there.
What strikes me is that Biden is barely campaigning at all. It is being done for him.0 -
Mmm not convinced. Tribalism runs deep.kingstongraham said:
Might be different if he's killed your momrick_chasey said:
Catching Trump saying awful things on tape did......nothing in the last election.kingstongraham said:
He's released some of them already.First.Aspect said:
Hopefully the actual interview recordings will be leaked. Otherwise will just be shouted down as fake news by a democrat journalist.kingstongraham said:
His statements about how it is just like the flu, it's a hoax, it's just because the impeachment didn't work, it will soon be down to zero, it will all be over by April - they weren't just him riffing without any knowledge. Not just him being Trump and not listening to briefings. That was deliberately misleading his public, and cost lives.surrey_commuter said:
Why is this controversial? Everybody with a television knew about C19 in January, it is inconceivable that the head of any State would know less than a casual viewer of the news.briantrumpet said:
Feb 7
Look closer to home. If your side in the culture war says black is white and up is done people will just agree.
No different there.
He's odds on to lose, but he was last time and the chances of him winning are still 2 in 5 right now.
Democrats need to get people out voting. Heard some rumours the Republican campaign is having to pull adds because they're running out of money.
In an ideal world that means Republicans also can't afford a ground game to help get their vote out.
The idea you can persuade material numbers of people in the states to switch from Rep to Dem is fanciful.
If you voted for Trump last time I can't see any good reason why you would suddenly vote Biden this time. Trump is exactly what everyone thought he would be.0 -
He is campaigning, he has a policy platform, he's doing speeches. He's spending a lot on TV ads.First.Aspect said:
Not sure. Depends what else there is. 200,000 dead people will have several million bereaved relatives. As will however many million unemployed people (probably more important to your average American).rick_chasey said:
Catching Trump saying awful things on tape did......nothing in the last election.kingstongraham said:
He's released some of them already.First.Aspect said:
Hopefully the actual interview recordings will be leaked. Otherwise will just be shouted down as fake news by a democrat journalist.kingstongraham said:
His statements about how it is just like the flu, it's a hoax, it's just because the impeachment didn't work, it will soon be down to zero, it will all be over by April - they weren't just him riffing without any knowledge. Not just him being Trump and not listening to briefings. That was deliberately misleading his public, and cost lives.surrey_commuter said:
Why is this controversial? Everybody with a television knew about C19 in January, it is inconceivable that the head of any State would know less than a casual viewer of the news.briantrumpet said:
Feb 7
Look closer to home. If your side in the culture war says black is white and up is done people will just agree.
No different there.
What strikes me is that Biden is barely campaigning at all. It is being done for him.
He's not doing rallies or getting out like it's a normal year like Trump is trying to because, well, you know.
And Trump is using official press conferences for campaigning, which will get coverage. The media loves covering Trump, he's always giving them a story.0 -
Boho set the precedent.First.Aspect said:
Not sure. Depends what else there is. 200,000 dead people will have several million bereaved relatives. As will however many million unemployed people (probably more important to your average American).rick_chasey said:
Catching Trump saying awful things on tape did......nothing in the last election.kingstongraham said:
He's released some of them already.First.Aspect said:
Hopefully the actual interview recordings will be leaked. Otherwise will just be shouted down as fake news by a democrat journalist.kingstongraham said:
His statements about how it is just like the flu, it's a hoax, it's just because the impeachment didn't work, it will soon be down to zero, it will all be over by April - they weren't just him riffing without any knowledge. Not just him being Trump and not listening to briefings. That was deliberately misleading his public, and cost lives.surrey_commuter said:
Why is this controversial? Everybody with a television knew about C19 in January, it is inconceivable that the head of any State would know less than a casual viewer of the news.briantrumpet said:
Feb 7
Look closer to home. If your side in the culture war says black is white and up is done people will just agree.
No different there.
What strikes me is that Biden is barely campaigning at all. It is being done for him.
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The death rate must be roughly in line with the UK yet nobody suggests the polls are being influenced by grieving relatives of those killed by Boris’s mishandling of the pandemic.First.Aspect said:
Not sure. Depends what else there is. 200,000 dead people will have several million bereaved relatives. As will however many million unemployed people (probably more important to your average American).rick_chasey said:
Catching Trump saying awful things on tape did......nothing in the last election.kingstongraham said:
He's released some of them already.First.Aspect said:
Hopefully the actual interview recordings will be leaked. Otherwise will just be shouted down as fake news by a democrat journalist.kingstongraham said:
His statements about how it is just like the flu, it's a hoax, it's just because the impeachment didn't work, it will soon be down to zero, it will all be over by April - they weren't just him riffing without any knowledge. Not just him being Trump and not listening to briefings. That was deliberately misleading his public, and cost lives.surrey_commuter said:
Why is this controversial? Everybody with a television knew about C19 in January, it is inconceivable that the head of any State would know less than a casual viewer of the news.briantrumpet said:
Feb 7
Look closer to home. If your side in the culture war says black is white and up is done people will just agree.
No different there.
What strikes me is that Biden is barely campaigning at all. It is being done for him.0
