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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328
    edited June 2020
    Anyone with half an interest in history, or indeed the future, should be concerned by this.

    The ironic part - "The USAGM is tasked with broadcasting independent news to a global audience of more than 280 million people. It was created in 1942 to combat Nazi propaganda."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53111704
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    pblakeney said:

    Anyone with half an interest in history, or indeed the future, should be concerned by this.

    The ironic part - "The USAGM is tasked with broadcasting independent news to a global audience of more than 280 million people. It was created in 1942 to combat Nazi propaganda."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53111704

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    There is a worrying question about the power Apple and Google have in all this.

    I'm surprised that anyone could be surprised by this.
    I'm not surprised. Or are you surprised that anyone would be worried about it?
    Yes. Either use other products, succumb, or go off grid.
    No need for worry. Will it help?
    VoA has always been absolutely terrible and not worthy listening to.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328
    TheBigBean said:

    pblakeney said:

    Anyone with half an interest in history, or indeed the future, should be concerned by this.

    The ironic part - "The USAGM is tasked with broadcasting independent news to a global audience of more than 280 million people. It was created in 1942 to combat Nazi propaganda."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53111704

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    There is a worrying question about the power Apple and Google have in all this.

    I'm surprised that anyone could be surprised by this.
    I'm not surprised. Or are you surprised that anyone would be worried about it?
    Yes. Either use other products, succumb, or go off grid.
    No need for worry. Will it help?
    VoA has always been absolutely terrible and not worthy listening to.
    Fair point, well made. More about things within your control though.
    I've never listened to VoA so just going on the report.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pblakeney said:

    Anyone with half an interest in history, or indeed the future, should be concerned by this.

    The ironic part - "The USAGM is tasked with broadcasting independent news to a global audience of more than 280 million people. It was created in 1942 to combat Nazi propaganda."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53111704

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    There is a worrying question about the power Apple and Google have in all this.

    I'm surprised that anyone could be surprised by this.
    I'm not surprised. Or are you surprised that anyone would be worried about it?
    Yes. Either use other products, succumb, or go off grid.
    No need for worry. Will it help?
    VoA has always been absolutely terrible and not worthy listening to.
    Fair point, well made. More about things within your control though.
    I've never listened to VoA so just going on the report.
    It's within your control. Listen to BBC world service. VoA is really really bad. In this context "independent" means free of US political bias, not free of US bias.

    In contrast, it is hard to avoid google.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,318
    In the related article concerning C19:

    President Donald Trump blames it on increased testing, telling the Wall Street Journal he thinks "testing is overrated" because "in many ways, it makes us look bad."
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328
    TheBigBean said:

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pblakeney said:

    Anyone with half an interest in history, or indeed the future, should be concerned by this.

    The ironic part - "The USAGM is tasked with broadcasting independent news to a global audience of more than 280 million people. It was created in 1942 to combat Nazi propaganda."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53111704

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    There is a worrying question about the power Apple and Google have in all this.

    I'm surprised that anyone could be surprised by this.
    I'm not surprised. Or are you surprised that anyone would be worried about it?
    Yes. Either use other products, succumb, or go off grid.
    No need for worry. Will it help?
    VoA has always been absolutely terrible and not worthy listening to.
    Fair point, well made. More about things within your control though.
    I've never listened to VoA so just going on the report.
    It's within your control. Listen to BBC world service. VoA is really really bad. In this context "independent" means free of US political bias, not free of US bias.

    In contrast, it is hard to avoid google.
    Going off topic, but hint - Quackquack
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pblakeney said:

    Anyone with half an interest in history, or indeed the future, should be concerned by this.

    The ironic part - "The USAGM is tasked with broadcasting independent news to a global audience of more than 280 million people. It was created in 1942 to combat Nazi propaganda."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53111704

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    There is a worrying question about the power Apple and Google have in all this.

    I'm surprised that anyone could be surprised by this.
    I'm not surprised. Or are you surprised that anyone would be worried about it?
    Yes. Either use other products, succumb, or go off grid.
    No need for worry. Will it help?
    VoA has always been absolutely terrible and not worthy listening to.
    Fair point, well made. More about things within your control though.
    I've never listened to VoA so just going on the report.
    It's within your control. Listen to BBC world service. VoA is really really bad. In this context "independent" means free of US political bias, not free of US bias.

    In contrast, it is hard to avoid google.
    Going off topic, but hint - Quackquack
    Google goes quite a lot deeper than that.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    He's trying to fire another attorney general who is investigating him and his associates. Weird how that keeps happening.

    This guy's not going though. Bit of excitement before it turns out nothing matters again.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,318
    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pblakeney said:

    Anyone with half an interest in history, or indeed the future, should be concerned by this.

    The ironic part - "The USAGM is tasked with broadcasting independent news to a global audience of more than 280 million people. It was created in 1942 to combat Nazi propaganda."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53111704

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    There is a worrying question about the power Apple and Google have in all this.

    I'm surprised that anyone could be surprised by this.
    I'm not surprised. Or are you surprised that anyone would be worried about it?
    Yes. Either use other products, succumb, or go off grid.
    No need for worry. Will it help?
    VoA has always been absolutely terrible and not worthy listening to.
    Fair point, well made. More about things within your control though.
    I've never listened to VoA so just going on the report.
    It's within your control. Listen to BBC world service. VoA is really really bad. In this context "independent" means free of US political bias, not free of US bias.

    In contrast, it is hard to avoid google.
    Going off topic, but hint - Quackquack
    Duckduck go?
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328
    pinno said:

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pblakeney said:

    Anyone with half an interest in history, or indeed the future, should be concerned by this.

    The ironic part - "The USAGM is tasked with broadcasting independent news to a global audience of more than 280 million people. It was created in 1942 to combat Nazi propaganda."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53111704

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    There is a worrying question about the power Apple and Google have in all this.

    I'm surprised that anyone could be surprised by this.
    I'm not surprised. Or are you surprised that anyone would be worried about it?
    Yes. Either use other products, succumb, or go off grid.
    No need for worry. Will it help?
    VoA has always been absolutely terrible and not worthy listening to.
    Fair point, well made. More about things within your control though.
    I've never listened to VoA so just going on the report.
    It's within your control. Listen to BBC world service. VoA is really really bad. In this context "independent" means free of US political bias, not free of US bias.

    In contrast, it is hard to avoid google.
    Going off topic, but hint - Quackquack
    Duckduck go?
    Point being that other options are available. You might not like them, but there is a cost of entry for the main act. Anyway, way off topic.......
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    Good banter by the kids

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/21/trump-tulsa-rally-scheme-k-pop-fans-tiktok-users
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Well done soshul meejah kids. Result.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    TheBigBean said:

    Good banter by the kids

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/21/trump-tulsa-rally-scheme-k-pop-fans-tiktok-users


    It also seems that in not having a "Are you over 18?" tick box on the sign up form, Parscale has illegally harvested data of minors.

    Mind you, I suspect Trump will be throwing Parscale under a bus soon, but not for that reason.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,318
    I just hope this isn't going to be used as a convenient pawn as the Tiktok site is hosted by the Chinese.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    The kids were only getting on a list that allowed them to show up and get in. They didn't deprive any real fans of tickets.... There just weren't very many of those willing to show up in the middle of a pandemic.

    The kids did make them think they'd need an additional stage outside though for the overflow, which is funny.
  • step83
    step83 Posts: 4,170
    kingstongraham said:

    The kids were only getting on a list that allowed them to show up and get in. They didn't deprive any real fans of tickets.... There just weren't very many of those willing to show up in the middle of a pandemic.

    I saw a photo of one supporter who while being a moron for going to a stadium full of people had the sense to sit really far away from anyone, that or he smelt so everyone moved.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,318
    pinno said:

    I just hope this isn't going to be used as a convenient pawn as the Tiktok site is hosted by the Chinese.

    In retrospect, it would be in China's interest to keep Trump in power.
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  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    What i find interesting is that this really has been a case of employing an absolute moron that is so self interested it is like looking through a shop window and yet the US has carried on pretty much as normal. People went to work, there was the odd race riot and a load of school shootings. Sure there has been a pandemic but only really the response is related to Trump. Maybe it does not matter who you employ at the top these days.
  • Jeremy.89
    Jeremy.89 Posts: 457
    john80 said:

    What i find interesting is that this really has been a case of employing an absolute moron that is so self interested it is like looking through a shop window and yet the US has carried on pretty much as normal. People went to work, there was the odd race riot and a load of school shootings. Sure there has been a pandemic but only really the response is related to Trump. Maybe it does not matter who you employ at the top these days.

    The US basically has a whole set of checks and balances to try and stop the more undesirable effects of electing someone like Trump.

    Plus the individual states have a fair degree of autonomy.

    Some of the nastier stories coming out of immigration detention centres has a lot to do with Trump, but chimes fairly well with what a lot of the UKIP crowd would want anyway.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    john80 said:

    What i find interesting is that this really has been a case of employing an absolute moron that is so self interested it is like looking through a shop window and yet the US has carried on pretty much as normal. People went to work, there was the odd race riot and a load of school shootings. Sure there has been a pandemic but only really the response is related to Trump. Maybe it does not matter who you employ at the top these days.

    I think a lot of the damage for the self-interested won't be noticeable yet.

    I think the entire global response to the pandemic would have been very different had the US had a leader who wants to lead the (western) world.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328
    Just wait for the economy to face the full effect and protectionism to rear it's ugly head.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    john80 said:

    What i find interesting is that this really has been a case of employing an absolute moron that is so self interested it is like looking through a shop window and yet the US has carried on pretty much as normal. People went to work, there was the odd race riot and a load of school shootings. Sure there has been a pandemic but only really the response is related to Trump. Maybe it does not matter who you employ at the top these days.

    There is a stronger argument to elect a lazy sh1t (yes worse than Boris) or have no Govt at all. If you Google it then both Trinidad and Belgium had no Govt’s for ages and everything was fine.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    surrey_commuter said:

    john80 said:

    What i find interesting is that this really has been a case of employing an absolute moron that is so self interested it is like looking through a shop window and yet the US has carried on pretty much as normal. People went to work, there was the odd race riot and a load of school shootings. Sure there has been a pandemic but only really the response is related to Trump. Maybe it does not matter who you employ at the top these days.

    There is a stronger argument to elect a lazy censored (yes worse than Boris) or have no Govt at all. If you Google it then both Trinidad and Belgium had no Govt’s for ages and everything was fine.
    My hot take is that John Major was an excellent PM because he had a few principles (not too many, it turns out), but had no majority so couldn't really do anything. The current more actively anti-government style leaders just break things without knowing how to put something back together.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    kingstongraham said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    john80 said:

    What i find interesting is that this really has been a case of employing an absolute moron that is so self interested it is like looking through a shop window and yet the US has carried on pretty much as normal. People went to work, there was the odd race riot and a load of school shootings. Sure there has been a pandemic but only really the response is related to Trump. Maybe it does not matter who you employ at the top these days.

    There is a stronger argument to elect a lazy censored (yes worse than Boris) or have no Govt at all. If you Google it then both Trinidad and Belgium had no Govt’s for ages and everything was fine.
    My hot take is that John Major was an excellent PM because he had a few principles (not too many, it turns out), but had no majority so couldn't really do anything. The current more actively anti-government style leaders just break things without knowing how to put something back together.
    Erm, the f*cker tried to ban dance music.

    No Prime Minister who tries to do that is "excellent".
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    How was the Grey Man going to ban dance music then? Don't remember that. Sounds a bit King Cnut-like.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    rick_chasey said:

    kingstongraham said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    john80 said:

    What i find interesting is that this really has been a case of employing an absolute moron that is so self interested it is like looking through a shop window and yet the US has carried on pretty much as normal. People went to work, there was the odd race riot and a load of school shootings. Sure there has been a pandemic but only really the response is related to Trump. Maybe it does not matter who you employ at the top these days.

    There is a stronger argument to elect a lazy censored (yes worse than Boris) or have no Govt at all. If you Google it then both Trinidad and Belgium had no Govt’s for ages and everything was fine.
    My hot take is that John Major was an excellent PM because he had a few principles (not too many, it turns out), but had no majority so couldn't really do anything. The current more actively anti-government style leaders just break things without knowing how to put something back together.
    Erm, the f*cker tried to ban dance music.

    No Prime Minister who tries to do that is "excellent".
    But he failed, like in pretty much anything he tried. My point is proven.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    orraloon said:

    How was the Grey Man going to ban dance music then? Don't remember that. Sounds a bit King Cnut-like.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/33/part/V/crossheading/powers-in-relation-to-raves
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    orraloon said:

    How was the Grey Man going to ban dance music then? Don't remember that. Sounds a bit King Cnut-like.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Justice_and_Public_Order_Act_1994#Key_measures

    Banned gatherings of 20 people or more where

    63(1)(b) "music" includes sounds wholly or predominantly characterised by the emission of a succession of repetitive beats.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    The stop and search powers in that bill were also highly problematic.
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Ah yes. Glimmers of recall. Tories being Cnuts. Whodathunk?

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