Donald Trump

bianchimoon

KingstonGraham wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

Oh fishbott you are such a идиот

should be "an".

nah, maybe a bad translation, the word wasn't 'idiot' it was closer to boat anchor

Stevo_666

bianchimoon wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

FishFish wrote:

Nice to see that you can manage three consecutive sentences without a copied URL - next you'll manage to provide one with some insight or value.

But seriously Stevo, we might not have the same political view, but being amused by Fishbot :roll:

Credit where credit is due...

bianchimoon

Credit to Fishbot, credit to Farage, credit to Trump... you keep good company

Stevo_666

bianchimoon wrote:

Credit to Fishbot, credit to Farage, credit to Trump... you keep good company

The ability to look at things objectively and give credit where it is due rather than simply slating everything because of its originator is not a bad thing. May indicate a degree of thinking

As for Trump, I've said he's not as bad as Adolf - which is not exactly the same as giving credit, is it. Apart from that, the only time I recall saying anything positive about DT is on specific aspects of the recent US tax reform - and I'm happy to stand by that.

You'll have to point out where I've given Farage credit though?

bianchimoon

Stevo 666 wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

Credit to Fishbot, credit to Farage, credit to Trump... you keep good company

The ability to look at things objectively and give credit where it is due rather than simply slating everything because of its originator is not a bad thing. May indicate a degree of thinking

As for Trump, I've said he's not as bad as Adolf - which is not exactly the same as giving credit, is it. Apart from that, the only time I recall saying anything positive about DT is on specific aspects of the recent US tax reform - and I'm happy to stand by that.

You'll have to point out where I've given Farage credit though?

apologies, I use Farage as the face of Brexit, swop it for BoJo/gove et al
Re slating everything because of its originator, that's true i really can't think of one positive thing that Trump has done that I agree with.

Stevo_666

bianchimoon wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

Credit to Fishbot, credit to Farage, credit to Trump... you keep good company

The ability to look at things objectively and give credit where it is due rather than simply slating everything because of its originator is not a bad thing. May indicate a degree of thinking

As for Trump, I've said he's not as bad as Adolf - which is not exactly the same as giving credit, is it. Apart from that, the only time I recall saying anything positive about DT is on specific aspects of the recent US tax reform - and I'm happy to stand by that.

You'll have to point out where I've given Farage credit though?

apologies, I use Farage as the face of Brexit, swop it for BoJo/gove et al
Re slating everything because of its originator, that's true i really can't think of one positive thing that Trump has done that I agree with.

Fair enough. I won't drag you into a tax debate just yet

kingstongraham

FishFish wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

Dealing with Trump it has been said is like playing chess with a pigeon. First it knocks over all the pieces, then it sh1tts on the board, and finally it struts around like it won.

I like that.

But why would you play chess with a bird?

True, the comparison works on that level too. Well spotted.

robert88

FishFish wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

Dealing with Trump it has been said is like playing chess with a pigeon. First it knocks over all the pieces, then it sh1tts on the board, and finally it struts around like it won.

I like that.

But why would you play chess with a bird?

Because you need rooks?

FishFish

....even if you play at knight?

bianchimoon

Ok i'm board!

surrey_commuter

bianchimoon wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

Credit to Fishbot, credit to Farage, credit to Trump... you keep good company

The ability to look at things objectively and give credit where it is due rather than simply slating everything because of its originator is not a bad thing. May indicate a degree of thinking

As for Trump, I've said he's not as bad as Adolf - which is not exactly the same as giving credit, is it. Apart from that, the only time I recall saying anything positive about DT is on specific aspects of the recent US tax reform - and I'm happy to stand by that.

You'll have to point out where I've given Farage credit though?

apologies, I use Farage as the face of Brexit, swop it for BoJo/gove et al
Re slating everything because of its originator, that's true i really can't think of one positive thing that Trump has done that I agree with.

How about bombing Syria when it launched chemical attacks on it's citizens.

Economy looks to be doing alright under his stewardship. I have included UK as a benchmark
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth

This does not mean I approve of Trump - it means I don't criticise everything he does because of who he is

bianchimoon

Surrey Commuter wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

Credit to Fishbot, credit to Farage, credit to Trump... you keep good company

The ability to look at things objectively and give credit where it is due rather than simply slating everything because of its originator is not a bad thing. May indicate a degree of thinking

As for Trump, I've said he's not as bad as Adolf - which is not exactly the same as giving credit, is it. Apart from that, the only time I recall saying anything positive about DT is on specific aspects of the recent US tax reform - and I'm happy to stand by that.

You'll have to point out where I've given Farage credit though?

apologies, I use Farage as the face of Brexit, swop it for BoJo/gove et al
Re slating everything because of its originator, that's true i really can't think of one positive thing that Trump has done that I agree with.

How about bombing Syria when it launched chemical attacks on it's citizens.

Sure, what did it achieve exactly? Assad and his murdering regime are still in power, Russia is even stronger in Syria the US has pretty much given up on finding a solution. It takes diplomatic vision to end wars, not knee jerk 'tactical' strikes with big boys toys so that he can put that stupid grin on his face, fold his arms and exclaim 'mission accomplished' and feel he has finally found his d1ck. Sorry, not something I see as a positive from Cap. BoneSpurs.

sungod

Surrey Commuter wrote:

...
Economy looks to be doing alright under his stewardship. I have included UK as a benchmark
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth

This does not mean I approve of Trump - it means I don't criticise everything he does because of who he is

the us economy is a big thing, trump inherited it growing, he didn't create it

the republicans (not trump) used procedural techniques to get a bunch of tax cuts that are heating up the economy, favour the rich, and balloon the deficit (pretty remarkable for the party of deficit hawks, it's self-interest at play of course)

the former was certainly not trump's doing, the latter is so bad that it's the sort of thing trump would do, but he didn't do that either

surrey_commuter

bianchimoon wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

Credit to Fishbot, credit to Farage, credit to Trump... you keep good company

The ability to look at things objectively and give credit where it is due rather than simply slating everything because of its originator is not a bad thing. May indicate a degree of thinking

As for Trump, I've said he's not as bad as Adolf - which is not exactly the same as giving credit, is it. Apart from that, the only time I recall saying anything positive about DT is on specific aspects of the recent US tax reform - and I'm happy to stand by that.

You'll have to point out where I've given Farage credit though?

apologies, I use Farage as the face of Brexit, swop it for BoJo/gove et al
Re slating everything because of its originator, that's true i really can't think of one positive thing that Trump has done that I agree with.

How about bombing Syria when it launched chemical attacks on it's citizens.

Sure, what did it achieve exactly? Assad and his murdering regime are still in power, Russia is even stronger in Syria the US has pretty much given up on finding a solution. It takes diplomatic vision to end wars, not knee jerk 'tactical' strikes with big boys toys so that he can put that stupid grin on his face, fold his arms and exclaim 'mission accomplished' and feel he has finally found his d1ck. Sorry, not something I see as a positive from Cap. BoneSpurs.

You are right, I really did not think that through. The chemical weapons bombings are worse than ever. Obama left him a successful blueprint and he should have stuck to it.

Still we should be glad he did fvck up as badly as he did in Afghanistan

surrey_commuter

sungod wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

...
Economy looks to be doing alright under his stewardship. I have included UK as a benchmark
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth

This does not mean I approve of Trump - it means I don't criticise everything he does because of who he is

the us economy is a big thing, trump inherited it growing, he didn't create it

the republicans (not trump) used procedural techniques to get a bunch of tax cuts that are heating up the economy, favour the rich, and balloon the deficit (pretty remarkable for the party of deficit hawks, it's self-interest at play of course)

the former was certainly not trump's doing, the latter is so bad that it's the sort of thing trump would do, but he didn't do that either

The UK economy is a big thing but it has been proved you can fvck it up with politics.

robert88

I was interested to learn that Trump's Trade Secretary, Wilbur Ross, has stated :

"There's no bright line level of the stock market [i.e. depth to which they will fall] that's going to change policy, the president is trying to fix long-term problems that should have been fixed a long time ago."

Before becoming Trade Secretary, he ran W.L. Ross & Co., making billions acquiring stakes in distressed assets at fire-sale prices.

Wall street has largely resisted Trump's de-ramping efforts so far - one turkey that isn't voting for Xmas.

kingstongraham

Scott Pruitt update - still corrupt, still head of the EPA.

bianchimoon

KingstonGraham wrote:

Scott Pruitt update - still corrupt, still head of the EPA.

correction, still head of deconstructing the EPA

shirley_basso

I read that a lot of the minorities all support Assad as he is relatively indifferent about religion which makes Syria such a lovely melting pot of cultures, allowing significant freedom of expression and well worth a visit if possible.

From what I gather, the alternative is likely to end in some form of genocide/exile for these people.

bianchimoon

Kremlin just announced that if both sides agree Trump and Putin can meet in private (with NO aides) before the formal summit, WTF is that all about ~ (apart from the money laundering through the Trump org?, the PP tapes? Handing Crimea (and Ukraine) to Russia?) or perhaps he just wants to tell Putin Quote "what a piece of ass Ivanka is"?

FishFish

Shirley Basso wrote:

I read that a lot of the minorities all support Assad as he is relatively indifferent about religion which makes Syria such a lovely melting pot of cultures, allowing significant freedom of expression and well worth a visit if possible.

From what I gather, the alternative is likely to end in some form of genocide/exile for these people.

The issue is tribal not religion. Damascus and the surrounds are really beautiful and the old market is breathtaking. I had a brass plate engraved in ancient persian geometric patterns just outside of the Cathedral of John the baptist. The museum has one of the earliest examples of writing - found in the area. (And if you go to the museum in Taiwan they have the earliest piece of writing - but from China.

FishFish

bianchimoon wrote:

Kremlin just announced that if both sides agree Trump and Putin can meet in private (with NO aides) before the formal summit, WTF is that all about ~ (apart from the money laundering through the Trump org?, the PP tapes? Handing Crimea (and Ukraine) to Russia?) or perhaps he just wants to tell Putin Quote "what a piece of ass Ivanka is"?

I'm sure that they will follow your agenda to the letter. Seems to me that you have all the characteristics in abundance to be the head of state of a superpower.

bianchimoon

FishFish wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

Kremlin just announced that if both sides agree Trump and Putin can meet in private (with NO aides) before the formal summit, WTF is that all about ~ (apart from the money laundering through the Trump org?, the PP tapes? Handing Crimea (and Ukraine) to Russia?) or perhaps he just wants to tell Putin Quote "what a piece of ass Ivanka is"?

I'm sure that they will follow your agenda to the letter. Seems to me that you have all the characteristics in abundance to be the head of state of a superpower.

I thank you

bianchimoon

FishFish wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

Kremlin just announced that if both sides agree Trump and Putin can meet in private (with NO aides) before the formal summit, WTF is that all about ~ (apart from the money laundering through the Trump org?, the PP tapes? Handing Crimea (and Ukraine) to Russia?) or perhaps he just wants to tell Putin Quote "what a piece of ass Ivanka is"?

I'm sure that they will follow your agenda to the letter. Seems to me that you have all the characteristics in abundance to be the head of state of a superpower.

What about your take on the announcement, if it's good enough, i'll make you head of propaganda

ayjaycee

FishFish wrote:

[ I had a brass plate engraved in ancient persian geometric patterns just outside of the Cathedral of John the baptist.

Are you talking about The Great Umayyad Mosque where the Tomb of John The Baptist is located?

FishFish

It is in the market in Damascus and I thought it was the cathedral - I recall discussing churches in Arab states - there was a church in Kuwait where I lived.

rjsterry

FishFish wrote:

It is in the market in Damascus and I thought it was the cathedral - I recall discussing churches in Arab states - there was a church in Kuwait where I lived.

They normally have a kind of logo on the outside

It's built on the site of a Christian cathedral dedicated to John the Baptist, so not far off, although it was demolished and largely recycled into the mosque. Before that it was a temple of Jupiter and before that an Aramaean temple of Haddad Ramman.

ayjaycee

FishFish wrote:

It is in the market in Damascus and I thought it was the cathedral - I recall discussing churches in Arab states - there was a church in Kuwait where I lived.

Are you talking about the Al-Hamidiyah Souq because that’s a bit more than a ‘market’ - it does have a small mosque about half way through but definitely not a cathedral. It also leads to the great mosque that I mentioned earlier and Sterry is correct that the mosque was supposed to have been built on the site of a cathedral but that was a bit before your time (around 7th century AD IIRC).

robert88

"It would be a big mistake on the part of both countries [Canada and Mexico] to try to do separate agreements, because the idea behind that is that the United States feels that it will be more free to push its weight around if it does bilateral negotiations. Make no mistake about it."

Trumpistan pushing its weight around? Shirley knot!?

Also interesting that the Orange Ayatollah is to meet Putin ON HIS OWN with no Americans in attendance.

bianchimoon

Robert88 wrote:

Also interesting that the Orange Ayatollah is to meet Putin ON HIS OWN with no Americans in attendance.

Yes, speculated on above, but no takers. Wonder if ther are any precedents between US and Russian leaders meetings?