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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,537
    edited June 2018
    FishFish wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Apparently ranting about Trudeau is all about looking tough in front of Kim. Can't help thinking that letting your staff tell the world that this is what you're up to might reduce the effectiveness of such a strategy, but what do I know about international diplomacy?

    In answer to your question - nothing. And it is not restricted to international diplomacy.

    Just can't stay away, can you?

    I feel you're not really trying with that one, though.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,128
    Trump wrote:
    I feel that Kim Jong Un wants to do something great for his people

    That seems unlikely.
  • robert88
    robert88 Posts: 2,696
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    Robert88 wrote:
    G7 summit starts tomorrow. I am hoping for good things to come out of it.

    So how's that "hope" thing coming along?

    Robert88 wrote:
    Robert88 wrote:
    Robert88 wrote:
    G7 summit starts tomorrow. I am hoping for good things to come out of it.

    Trump at G7: US president calls for end to tariffs and trade barriers

    That could do the ftse 100 some good after a poor week. We shall see..

    As you were :roll:

    G7 summit ends in disarray as Trump abandons joint statement

    At least you know where you stand with Trump - in a swamp of treachery, confusion and chaos.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,128
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us- ... for-justin

    That seems proportionate.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,434
    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... b7a0de46ca
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  • slowmart
    slowmart Posts: 4,516
    Trump is seemingly more statesman like, he's focused, articulate and in danger of becoming fiercly effective

    North Korea, whether this is the end game at this juncture or a stepping stone to a nuclear free Korean peninsula remains to be seen but North Korea's successful acquisition of nuclear technology was a major stain on previous administrations.

    Rebalancing the trade tariffs, like Trump says they could hardly do worse than their present position. Most opposition will give way rather than get into escalating retaliatory sanctions.

    Iran, tactically nothing is off the table which has Iran unbalanced plus long term allies scrambling to save the treaty but the context is much wider given the regional religious/politics

    I cant see the Muller investigation going anywhere, impeachment is a political rather than a criminal process.

    Just saying if he pulls off a few of the above it's highly likely he'll be re-elected.
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  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    Slowmart wrote:
    Trump is seemingly more statesman like, he's focused, articulate and in danger of becoming fiercly effective

    North Korea, whether this is the end game at this juncture or a stepping stone to a nuclear free Korean peninsula remains to be seen but North Korea's successful acquisition of nuclear technology was a major stain on previous administrations.

    Rebalancing the trade tariffs, like Trump says they could hardly do worse than their present position. Most opposition will give way rather than get into escalating retaliatory sanctions.

    Iran, tactically nothing is off the table which has Iran unbalanced plus long term allies scrambling to save the treaty but the context is much wider given the regional religious/politics

    I cant see the Muller investigation going anywhere, impeachment is a political rather than a criminal process.

    Just saying if he pulls off a few of the above it's highly likely he'll be re-elected.
    Congrats, daftest post of the thread
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    Actually just reread your first sentence, you were taking the wee wee, sarcasm post, I get it now :|
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • slowmart
    slowmart Posts: 4,516
    How many times have people said , nah, he's a muppet, he'll never do it.

    If you haven't noticed he's going about doing it. Which causes more alarm as its an example that his bigotry, racism and sexism are a beneficial narrative for the wider public.
    “Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring”

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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,376
    bianchimoon wrote:
    Actually just reread your first sentence, you were taking the wee wee, sarcasm post, I get it now :|
    Imagine the look on your face if he did get re-elected :wink:
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,811
    Slowmart wrote:
    Which causes more alarm as its an example that his bigotry, racism and sexism are a beneficial narrative for the wider public.
    That's the scary bit.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,311
    Slowmart wrote:
    Trump is seemingly more statesman like, he's focused, articulate and in danger of becoming fiercly effective

    North Korea, whether this is the end game at this juncture or a stepping stone to a nuclear free Korean peninsula remains to be seen but North Korea's successful acquisition of nuclear technology was a major stain on previous administrations.

    Rebalancing the trade tariffs, like Trump says they could hardly do worse than their present position. Most opposition will give way rather than get into escalating retaliatory sanctions.

    Iran, tactically nothing is off the table which has Iran unbalanced plus long term allies scrambling to save the treaty but the context is much wider given the regional religious/politics

    I cant see the Muller investigation going anywhere, impeachment is a political rather than a criminal process.

    Just saying if he pulls off a few of the above it's highly likely he'll be re-elected.
    However we may read the above, the scary part is that his voters are lapping it up and getting re-elected is a very distinct possibility. Major crash or war aside. Which is the other scary part.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Slowmart wrote:
    Trump is seemingly more statesman like, he's focused, articulate and in danger of becoming fiercly effective.

    They guy literally needs two people full time to tape up documents he insists on ripping up even though not preserving them would end his job.


    His apparent biggest complaint at the moment, while his wife sleeps in another room, is he can’t get porn in the White House.
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  • robert88
    robert88 Posts: 2,696
    China is the biggest headache for the USA. It will take over as number one global power in under ten years time. As things stand.

    Trump's efforts to fix that are futile at best but most likely just counter-productive.
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    trump “Kim is talented, he took over the country when he was 26 and he ran it tough, that takes talent” :|
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • laurentian
    laurentian Posts: 2,548
    Did anyone else hear that intro to the press announcement? Jeez!
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  • tangled_metal
    tangled_metal Posts: 4,021
    Don't ya just luv the way laws don't apply to him. Besides he can pardon himself! Tear away Donny, tear away! The liberals don't like it! :wink:
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    laurentian wrote:
    Did anyone else hear that intro to the press announcement? Jeez!
    When he was asked about human rights, he totally fell to pieces, lying through his teeth. He’s winging it, and tripping himself up. There was a report that he wouldn’t take a scientist with him, in fact first president who hasn’t got a science advisor, probably because he knows more about science than just about every scientist, combined, together ever! :roll:
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,128
    bianchimoon wrote:
    trump “Kim is talented, he took over the country when he was 26 and he ran it tough, that takes talent” :|

    That's not a real quote is it?
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    Painful to watch this press thing, as usual his answers to questions just talk of "things" and "many things" and not much else, he's not saying anything cos he doesn't know anything, it's as if he hasn't even been in the meeting that he was in.

    Human rights question he didn't understand and thought of the rights of americans wanting bodies returned so talked about that, when he was actually being asked about the human rights of the North K people. He had the question rephrased to him including "the north K people" before he said anything on it, and then it was "things". Hmmm. I suppose we shouldn't be surprised, we know he can't speak or comprehend much on the fly.
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    bianchimoon wrote:
    trump “Kim is talented, he took over the country when he was 26 and he ran it tough, that takes talent” :|

    That's not a real quote is it?
    Pretty much verbatim from his speech as I was watching
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • laurentian
    laurentian Posts: 2,548
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    bianchimoon wrote:
    trump “Kim is talented, he took over the country when he was 26 and he ran it tough, that takes talent” :|

    That's not a real quote is it?

    It absolutely is, just about verbatim - just heard it!
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,128
    Rick Chasey wrote:

    They guy literally needs two people full time to tape up documents he insists on ripping up even though not preserving them would end his job.


    No, that would not end his job. Have you learnt nothing in the past 18 months? The checks and balances depend on the people with the power actually using them. There is no evidence that they are going to do that.
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    "When asked why he didn't secure better guarantees from North Korea, Mr Trump says there was "no time" to secure the details because he was only in Singapore "for one day".
    "I put together this video, i thought it was great, i showed it to them in the meeting, they really liked it :roll:
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    "We have a tremendous deficit in trade, a tremendous deficit in trade, commonly known as a trade deficit"

    :) it's like stand up comedy.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,128
    Just watching the series trailer they showed before the press conference. It's insane. It goes on for minutes, and literally says in that trailer voice "What will be their sequel? Destiny Pictures presents a new story, a new beginning.... Two men, two leaders, one destiny.... Featuring President Donald J Trump, and Chairman Kim Jong Un in a meeting to remake history..."
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    Just watching the series trailer they showed before the press conference. It's insane. It goes on for minutes, and literally says in that trailer voice "What will be their sequel? Destiny Pictures presents a new story, a new beginning.... Two men, two leaders, one destiny.... Featuring President Donald J Trump, and Chairman Kim Jong Un in a meeting to remake history..."
    that was the video he showed to Kim at the meeting, and took up valuable time with... eat your heart out Spielberg
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    I told Kim, you can have the best hotels in the world there!!!!!!
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • robert88
    robert88 Posts: 2,696
    A triumph in North Korea!

    No commitment to complete verifiable, irreversible denuclearisation or CVID, Trump say there wasn’t time. “I’m here for one day. The process is now going to take place,” .North Korea has already demonstrated its commitment by destroying a testing site, Trump claims.

    Human rights in North Korea? We'll talk about that later

    Lifting sanctions? Yes, soon. says he had 300 “very big and powerful” sanctions ready last week but held off ahead of the summit because imposing them would have been “disrespectful”. “The sanctions will come off when we are sure when we are sure the nukes are no longer a factor,” he said.

    Asked about the timeline, he said denuclearisation “takes a long time scientifically”.

    US military exercises : Trump would halt "war games" - planes have to fly six and half hours from Guam to take part. “I know a lot about airplanes, and it’s very expensive,” he says.
  • robert88
    robert88 Posts: 2,696
    ..now, where's that Nobel Prize?

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