Brand Snobbery in Cycling??

deejaysee
deejaysee Posts: 149
edited January 2016 in Road general
Do riders that just want to dip their toe in so to speak always end up going for the likes of Giant but "proper" riders go for Cannondale for example.

Whatever hobbie i've ever been in there's always an element of this that goes on
Does it exist in road cycling?
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  • dwanes
    dwanes Posts: 954
    Not so much with makes of bikes, probably more so with cycle clothing i would say.
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    Giant makes most company's bikes...
    Pinarello id for posh sportive riders who don't know any better.
    Ritte is for douchebags.
    Canyon is for people that like to wait months before ever getting their bike,
    Specialized is for people who need something to follow since Jim Jones drank the the rest of the punch.
    Trek because 'Murica.
    Scott is for those that scooped up a great frame at a third of retail.
    Wilier is for people who like to claim warranty.
    Colnago is for people who love Campag and need somewhere to put it.
    Bianchi is for people who need a bike to match their celeste shoes and iPhone case.
    I could go on...
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  • bob6397
    bob6397 Posts: 218
    I'd agree with Grill for the most part - and especially with Pinarello's - whenever I see someone on one (and especially if they are also wearing Team Sky kit but not actually on the team), I immediately have the thought "All the gear and no idea".. These people tend to have no technique, bad fit and a round belly :)

    When I bought my bike, I deliberately didn't buy a Giant (It made it to my final 2 though) only as round where I live, we have an excellent independent Giant dealer (bear with me - I know that sounds insane..) Purely as it meant I would be different - the consequence of having an excellent Giant dealer is that nearly everyone round there rides a Giant.. Or one of their really expensive custom builds :)

    bob6397
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  • debeli
    debeli Posts: 583
    The cycling fraternity (and I grudgingly suppose sorority) is blissfully free of snobbery, elitism or any form of prejudice.

    It is a lovely place and I am proud to be a part of it. All the chaps (and one might accept that there are one or two gals) are in it only for the joy of riding.

    I suppose that if pushed for a view, one might accept that a chap with a bicycle like mine aspires to my level of expertise and dedication. I wish him well in that quest, although he needs to accept that he will never quite make it.

    Then there are those with bicycles slightly or significantly more expensive (I do not say better) than mine. These are delusional fools and narcissists of the lowest order. They are cheque-book experts and worse. I spit on them and would happily see them burn like pigs in Hell.

    On the other hand, those with bicycles slightly or significantly worse (by which I mean cheaper) than mine are ignoramuses and fools. They clearly do not know value when they see it and are scrimping in the wrong place.

    So to put it briefly, there is no snobbery or elitism, but do watch out for the pond slime I mention above. And if you have to ask the value of my bicycle, you can assume that you are a member of one or the other group.

    The chief benefit of cycling is the mutual respect and deference it encourages. Should you feel an inkling of dissent on my views, do bear in mind that I am right and you may not yet have earned the right to an opinion.

    I hope I have helped.
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    ^Rides a Thorn Audax...
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  • As an owner of a Wilier, Colnago, Scott, Trek and an incoming Canyon...
  • Grill nails it.
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  • luv2ride
    luv2ride Posts: 2,367
    Scott is for those that scooped up a great frame at a third of retail....

    You're so right :oops: :D
    Titus Silk Road Ti rigid 29er - Scott Solace 10 disc - Kinesis Crosslight Pro6 disc - Scott CR1 SL - Pinnacle Arkose X 650b - Pinnacle Arkose singlespeed - Specialized Singlecross...& an Ernie Ball Musicman Stingray 4 string...
  • please show me how I can get a scott addict at 1/3 retail
  • Bozman
    Bozman Posts: 2,518
    please show me how I can get a scott addict at 1/3 retail

    Rutland have got them with 44% off... Close ish
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    please show me how I can get a scott addict at 1/3 retail

    Give it time, Westbrook will have them soon enough.
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  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 16,520
    Do riders that just want to dip their toe in so to speak always end up going for the likes of Giant but "proper" riders go for Cannondale for example.

    Whatever hobbie i've ever been in there's always an element of this that goes on
    Does it exist in road cycling?

    i rarely even notice what colour other people's bikes are let alone which brand/model!

    snobbery is an attribute of a snob, not a manufactured object, there are snobs in all walks of life, some are funny, some are obnoxious, all are sad
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    ^Rose. Secretly lusts for a De Rosa.
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  • norvernrob
    norvernrob Posts: 1,447
    Scott is for those that scooped up a great frame at a third of retail....

    You're so right :oops: :D

    Mine was only half price :oops: :oops: but it was the entire bike with top end components too :D
  • I think you'll encounter more "snobbery" on here than you will back in the real world. I've found the roads to be full of friendly, sociable types who just have a great enthusiasm for their sport/hobby tbh.

    Someone made mention earlier that people are slightly more judgemental of clothing than bikes, he may just have a point! Although I'd suggest it's more of a issue online .... Read anything "Rapha" related :)
    Still thinking of something clever to say!
  • It exists almost entirely on forums as opposed to the real world...and as for the clothing...anti Rapha inverse snobs outnumber the Rapha snobs 10,000 to 1*.





    *yet to meet or read a post from an actual, bona fide Rapha snob that doesn't exist in a forum users mind but I'm sure they exist
  • chris_bass
    chris_bass Posts: 4,913
    My main bike is a basso Laguna, not sure what that says?
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  • andcp
    andcp Posts: 644
    Ritte is for douchebags.

    I get the rest, but why is Ritte for douchebags?

    No, I don't own one, amongst others I ride a Cervelo (for people who think they understand the intricacies of bike design but don't, or those having a mid life crisis but can't afford a Pinarello)
    "It must be true, it's on the internet" - Winston Churchill
  • you come back after a year and the same old dross still being posted...! search function OP...
  • Interesting read.
    Being a newcomer to the scene i find it interesting that wearing pro team kits is frowned upon...why?
    Absolutely any other sport i can think of its totally acceptable to wear your teams kit.
    Why in cycling would you be laughed at if you have Team Sky kit on??

    I don't buy the "you haven't earned it".......if i wear my Liverpool or England footy shirts i couldn't be further from "earning" those shirts if i tried
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    Ritte is for douchebags.

    I get the rest, but why is Ritte for douchebags?

    No, I don't own one, amongst others I ride a Cervelo (for people who think they understand the intricacies of bike design but don't, or those having a mid life crisis but can't afford a Pinarello)

    They were founded by SoCal bros on the premise of over-charging for open mould frames with non-existent heritage and pretty paint.
    English Cycles V3 | Cervelo P5 | Cervelo T4 | Trek Domane Koppenberg
  • I'd agree with Grill for the most part - and especially with Pinarello's - whenever I see someone on one (and especially if they are also wearing Team Sky kit but not actually on the team), I immediately have the thought "All the gear and no idea".. These people tend to have no technique, bad fit and a round belly :)

    When I bought my bike, I deliberately didn't buy a Giant (It made it to my final 2 though) only as round where I live, we have an excellent independent Giant dealer (bear with me - I know that sounds insane..) Purely as it meant I would be different - the consequence of having an excellent Giant dealer is that nearly everyone round there rides a Giant.. Or one of their really expensive custom builds :)

    bob6397

    Exactly why I have gone for a BMC.In Cornwall everything is Trek,Specialised,Cannondale and Merida.Just want to be different to the crowd.
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    BMC - for people who don't care that all their bikes look the same.
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  • There used to be just one Cannondale dealer in Ireland, so they were pretty rare round the country. Said dealer was/is one of the best shops around, which definitely helped. Being that they were light, fitted well and tended to be green, I was all over that.

    I would be more inclined to dislike individual bikes than whole brands. Most have at least one bike that's decent, or that you could see yourself on.
  • andcp
    andcp Posts: 644
    Ritte is for douchebags.

    I get the rest, but why is Ritte for douchebags?

    No, I don't own one, amongst others I ride a Cervelo (for people who think they understand the intricacies of bike design but don't, or those having a mid life crisis but can't afford a Pinarello)

    They were founded by SoCal bros on the premise of over-charging for open mould frames with non-existent heritage and pretty paint.

    Thanks, I now understand (though I had to google SoCal bros :oops: )
    "It must be true, it's on the internet" - Winston Churchill
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,297
    you come back after a year and the same old dross still being posted...! search function OP...
    Surely you aren't surprised by this.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    Interesting read.
    Being a newcomer to the scene i find it interesting that wearing pro team kits is frowned upon...why?
    Absolutely any other sport i can think of its totally acceptable to wear your teams kit.
    Why in cycling would you be laughed at if you have Team Sky kit on??

    I don't buy the "you haven't earned it".......if i wear my Liverpool or England footy shirts i couldn't be further from "earning" those shirts if i tried

    Only in the UK - on the continent pro team kit seems to be really common, no-one seems to care. I think we're just too cool 8)
  • Giant makes most company's bikes...
    Pinarello id for posh sportive riders who don't know any better.
    Ritte is for douchebags.
    Canyon is for people that like to wait months before ever getting their bike,
    Specialized is for people who need something to follow since Jim Jones drank the the rest of the punch.
    Trek because 'Murica.
    Scott is for those that scooped up a great frame at a third of retail.
    Wilier is for people who like to claim warranty.
    Colnago is for people who love Campag and need somewhere to put it.
    Bianchi is for people who need a bike to match their celeste shoes and iPhone case.
    I could go on...

    English is for people that like to wait years for a bike
  • If you are riding an Allez and wearing an Altura Night Vision (regardless of the weather conditions) you're clearly a nodder who has just emerged from their local Evans. :lol:
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    Giant makes most company's bikes...
    Pinarello id for posh sportive riders who don't know any better.
    Ritte is for douchebags.
    Canyon is for people that like to wait months before ever getting their bike,
    Specialized is for people who need something to follow since Jim Jones drank the the rest of the punch.
    Trek because 'Murica.
    Scott is for those that scooped up a great frame at a third of retail.
    Wilier is for people who like to claim warranty.
    Colnago is for people who love Campag and need somewhere to put it.
    Bianchi is for people who need a bike to match their celeste shoes and iPhone case.
    I could go on...

    English is for people that like to wait years for a bike

    Indeed. I didn't think it would be fair to include a brand with only a couple hundred frames on the market though. ;)
    English Cycles V3 | Cervelo P5 | Cervelo T4 | Trek Domane Koppenberg