Dan Stevens
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710516#p19710516]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710474#p19710474]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710467#p19710467]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:He needs to get a refund on anything he was taking as he was still sh1t.
It seems that there is a growing number of racing cyclists who think they are being beaten by people on gear so are going out and getting it themselves as they think they ned it to be competitive. UKADA seem to be quite well informed on what is going on and are picking them off. If only UKADA were catching the guys at pro tour level as quickly but I guess this gets their stats up without upsetting any sponsors.
This is odd for me, I never had a single discussion about this in my racing years in the UK. Hangovers, excepted.
It's certainly a modern phenomenon. Doping products are far easier to obtain these days and the risk vs reward ratio is stacked too far on the side of reward.
Just ask yourself. What deterrent is there to not dope?
Bear in mind that Tearnon-Locke will walk straight into a decent team after his ban is up and has also kept his Sky salary (c £400k p.a. plus bonuses).
That said, I hear stories about people charging up for the local group rides that end in a sprint here..."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710516#p19710516]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710474#p19710474]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710467#p19710467]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:He needs to get a refund on anything he was taking as he was still sh1t.
It seems that there is a growing number of racing cyclists who think they are being beaten by people on gear so are going out and getting it themselves as they think they ned it to be competitive. UKADA seem to be quite well informed on what is going on and are picking them off. If only UKADA were catching the guys at pro tour level as quickly but I guess this gets their stats up without upsetting any sponsors.
This is odd for me, I never had a single discussion about this in my racing years in the UK. Hangovers, excepted.
It's certainly a modern phenomenon. Doping products are far easier to obtain these days and the risk vs reward ratio is stacked too far on the side of reward.
Just ask yourself. What deterrent is there to not dope?
Bear in mind that Tearnon-Locke will walk straight into a decent team after his ban is up and has also kept his Sky salary (c £400k p.a. plus bonuses).
He has not kept his salary. He was fired and his salary ceased to be paid as soon as the panel determined his guilt on 15 Jul 2014.
As for him walking into 'a decent team after his ban is up', I'll wait to see that0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710534#p19710534]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710516#p19710516]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710474#p19710474]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710467#p19710467]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:He needs to get a refund on anything he was taking as he was still sh1t.
It seems that there is a growing number of racing cyclists who think they are being beaten by people on gear so are going out and getting it themselves as they think they ned it to be competitive. UKADA seem to be quite well informed on what is going on and are picking them off. If only UKADA were catching the guys at pro tour level as quickly but I guess this gets their stats up without upsetting any sponsors.
This is odd for me, I never had a single discussion about this in my racing years in the UK. Hangovers, excepted.
It's certainly a modern phenomenon. Doping products are far easier to obtain these days and the risk vs reward ratio is stacked too far on the side of reward.
Just ask yourself. What deterrent is there to not dope?
Bear in mind that Tearnon-Locke will walk straight into a decent team after his ban is up and has also kept his Sky salary (c £400k p.a. plus bonuses).
He has not kept his salary. He was fired and his salary ceased to be paid as soon as the panel determined his guilt on 15 Jul 2014.
As for him walking into 'a decent team after his ban is up', I'll wait to see that
If the team i have heard he is going to is true, and no reason for it not to be, its no surprise and almost comical0 -
If you are going to show us some beans then make sure you're prepared to spill them.If the team i have heard he is going to is true, and no reason for it not to be, its no surprise and almost comicalTwitter: @RichN950 -
If you are going to show us some beans then make sure you're prepared to spill them.If the team i have heard he is going to is true, and no reason for it not to be, its no surprise and almost comical
Though shouldn't this bit be in the transfer rumours thread?
I'm assuming that either Gianni Savio or Fluro Fantini (or whatever they are) has signed him...0 -
If you are going to show us some beans then make sure you're prepared to spill them.If the team i have heard he is going to is true, and no reason for it not to be, its no surprise and almost comical
Yeah, cmon Ozzlar, show us what you got0 -
all I'm saying it this is the correct post for it to be in, in more ways than one0
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all I'm saying it this is the correct post for it to be in, in more ways than one
Its not the new British Conti team, Team Black Sabbath Procycling, is it?0 -
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I guess those who can afford it are more likely to dope than those who can't. Beyond that, I don't get the connection.
You missed the point 100%.
I made the connection that if someone has the money to spend five five figures, to race a 4th cat crit every other week, then they might have the money to spend on that something extra.
If they are, then why are they still 4th Cat racers?
Some of the more famous cases made it up from 4th cat.0 -
There's another positive coming out very soon related to this one.
Still can't believe that this was kept quiet by UKAD / BC since 2014 though.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19728090#p19728090]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:There's another positive coming out very soon related to this one.
Still can't believe that this was kept quiet by UKAD / BC since 2014 though.
tease0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19728090#p19728090]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:There's another positive coming out very soon related to this one.
Still can't believe that this was kept quiet by UKAD / BC since 2014 though.
tease
It'll be out before you know it, it's fairly common knowledge around the south east racing scene0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19728097#p19728097]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19728090#p19728090]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:There's another positive coming out very soon related to this one.
Still can't believe that this was kept quiet by UKAD / BC since 2014 though.
tease
It'll be out before you know it, it's fairly common knowledge around the south east racing scene
initials M S by any chance0 -
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19728097#p19728097]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19728090#p19728090]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:There's another positive coming out very soon related to this one.
Still can't believe that this was kept quiet by UKAD / BC since 2014 though.
tease
It'll be out before you know it, it's fairly common knowledge around the south east racing scene
initials M S by any chance
This is harder than Cluedo.... but I'll go for M.S. with the syringe in the South East wing ....possibly at Downton Abbey0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19728097#p19728097]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19728090#p19728090]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:There's another positive coming out very soon related to this one.
Still can't believe that this was kept quiet by UKAD / BC since 2014 though.
tease
It'll be out before you know it, it's fairly common knowledge around the south east racing scene
initials M S by any chance
Nope but there seems to be a doping ring in the south east that UKADA are targeting.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710474#p19710474]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710467#p19710467]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:He needs to get a refund on anything he was taking as he was still sh1t.
It seems that there is a growing number of racing cyclists who think they are being beaten by people on gear so are going out and getting it themselves as they think they ned it to be competitive. UKADA seem to be quite well informed on what is going on and are picking them off. If only UKADA were catching the guys at pro tour level as quickly but I guess this gets their stats up without upsetting any sponsors.
This is odd for me, I never had a single discussion about this in my racing years in the UK. Hangovers, excepted.
Omerta
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Unbelievable, if true.0
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710474#p19710474]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710467#p19710467]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:He needs to get a refund on anything he was taking as he was still sh1t.
It seems that there is a growing number of racing cyclists who think they are being beaten by people on gear so are going out and getting it themselves as they think they ned it to be competitive. UKADA seem to be quite well informed on what is going on and are picking them off. If only UKADA were catching the guys at pro tour level as quickly but I guess this gets their stats up without upsetting any sponsors.
This is odd for me, I never had a single discussion about this in my racing years in the UK. Hangovers, excepted.
Omerta.
Funny totally by coincidence this was being discussed on my club run on Sunday.
Someone who is near enough to know was making a claim that there are whole teams in the local league who regularly charge up with speed and tramadol and went on to list a whole bunch of names. I can't remember them (I have no idea who they are).0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710474#p19710474]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710467#p19710467]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:He needs to get a refund on anything he was taking as he was still sh1t.
It seems that there is a growing number of racing cyclists who think they are being beaten by people on gear so are going out and getting it themselves as they think they ned it to be competitive. UKADA seem to be quite well informed on what is going on and are picking them off. If only UKADA were catching the guys at pro tour level as quickly but I guess this gets their stats up without upsetting any sponsors.
This is odd for me, I never had a single discussion about this in my racing years in the UK. Hangovers, excepted.
Omerta.
Funny totally by coincidence this was being discussed on my club run on Sunday.
Someone who is near enough to know was making a claim that there are whole teams in the local league who regularly charge up with speed and tramadol and went on to list a whole bunch of names. I can't remember them (I have no idea who they are).
Everyone is into marginal gains these days...0 -
you'll probably find Cocaine is used by a few as well. its all a bit sad really. Didn't think cocaine does anything apart from making the user appear a bigger tool than they already are...[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710474#p19710474]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710467#p19710467]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:He needs to get a refund on anything he was taking as he was still sh1t.
It seems that there is a growing number of racing cyclists who think they are being beaten by people on gear so are going out and getting it themselves as they think they ned it to be competitive. UKADA seem to be quite well informed on what is going on and are picking them off. If only UKADA were catching the guys at pro tour level as quickly but I guess this gets their stats up without upsetting any sponsors.
This is odd for me, I never had a single discussion about this in my racing years in the UK. Hangovers, excepted.
Omerta.
Funny totally by coincidence this was being discussed on my club run on Sunday.
Someone who is near enough to know was making a claim that there are whole teams in the local league who regularly charge up with speed and tramadol and went on to list a whole bunch of names. I can't remember them (I have no idea who they are).0 -
When's this unspeakable truth coming out ?0
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When's this unspeakable truth coming out ?
No-one can say...0 -
Ooooohhhh suspense.
Just like the end of series II of Blacksails0 -
you'll probably find Cocaine is used by a few as well. its all a bit sad really. Didn't think cocaine does anything apart from making the user appear a bigger tool than they already are...[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710474#p19710474]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19710467#p19710467]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:He needs to get a refund on anything he was taking as he was still sh1t.
It seems that there is a growing number of racing cyclists who think they are being beaten by people on gear so are going out and getting it themselves as they think they ned it to be competitive. UKADA seem to be quite well informed on what is going on and are picking them off. If only UKADA were catching the guys at pro tour level as quickly but I guess this gets their stats up without upsetting any sponsors.
This is odd for me, I never had a single discussion about this in my racing years in the UK. Hangovers, excepted.
Omerta.
Funny totally by coincidence this was being discussed on my club run on Sunday.
Someone who is near enough to know was making a claim that there are whole teams in the local league who regularly charge up with speed and tramadol and went on to list a whole bunch of names. I can't remember them (I have no idea who they are).
Bizarre. I was completely oblivious to all this when I was racing against the South East Elites. Gives me a handy excuse as to why I rapidly slipped back to 3rd cat obscurity... There aren't actually that many "teams" that have consistently strong results, it would be interesting to know who the whispers are about.0 -
PM me if you find out 0
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TBH, most amateurs love inventing doping stories about their rivals. It makes them feel like 'proper' pros.0
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TBH, most amateurs love inventing doping stories about their rivals. It makes them feel like 'proper' pros.
except this probably has legs having had one person already banned and him having his ban reduced for providing info to CIRC0 -
TBH, most amateurs love inventing doping stories about their rivals. It makes them feel like 'proper' pros.
I use it when I lose... never my lack of training/ability/dedication, always the other riders substance abuse. 0
