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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 17,932
    Stevo_666 said:

    briantrumpet said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    briantrumpet said:

    Stevo, you'll be glad to know that there still seem to be several people out there who would rather the Tories stayed in power, while the Labour Party seeks true socialism, than give Starmer the chance to sneak some Labour ideas in with any sort of compromise of anything other than true socialism. The evidence is in my Facebook feed...

    The quest for the Holy Grail continues, although if they didn't manage to find it in the 4-5 years that Corbyn was running the show, I guess they never will. Happy days.

    Quite so, but you'll not be so happy that Starmer is open to filthy compromise, and has a brain. Your pick of Corbyn was good, in that not only was he too far left to win a majority, he was also deeply incompetent.
    True, Starmer is not bad so far and clearly better than Corbyn, but that was a low bar. Although the stuff we see like PMQs you would expect Starmer to do well as he's a QC and cross examination tends to be one of their strong points. How he fares in uniting a deeply divided party remains to be seen.

    I've been rather surprised how toothless the Momentum rump have been so far. Maybe there are enough Labour members who have twigged that a 'pure' socialist party without power means that incompetents like Johnson will end up taking the country even further right than Starmer would... we'll see.
    https://www.facebook.com/unanglaisendiois
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,738
    surrey_commuter said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Anecdotal story. In laws who have voted Tory their entire lives, absolutely spitting blood about how bad the govt has handled this.

    Furious. Was actually quite amusing just occasionally feeding them another name from the cabinet to watch them kick off all over again.

    “Embarrassed to have voted for such a fool. He’s a clown”

    What do they feel they have learned about him that they did not know before?
    Ah you are assuming way too much.

    They are Tory life voters. You vote Tory because you don’t need hand outs not because of anything.

    Doesn’t matter who it is.

    (Irrelevant anyway as it’s as labour as labour gets)
    _
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    I've just done this Left/Right, Conservative/Woke quiz and it has put me exactly where I expected to be, slightly right(two squares) of centre and slightly Conservative (3 squares above centre)

    http://www.thetakemachine.co.uk/quiz
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,866
    coopster_the_1st said:

    I've just done this Left/Right, Conservative/Woke quiz and it has put me exactly where I expected to be, slightly right(two squares) of centre and slightly Conservative (3 squares above centre)

    http://www.thetakemachine.co.uk/quiz

    6 squares to the right and 3 squares towards wokeland
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,699
    If you need a quiz to understand your own politics...
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,560
    rjsterry said:

    If you need a quiz to understand your own politics...

    It's just a bit of fun.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,699
    It's a bit Just Seventeen for me.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    rjsterry said:

    If you need a quiz to understand your own politics...

    Someone's tired! :tired_face:
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,560
    3 to the right and 2 up.

    Anyone else? I'm wondering if Rick can punch through the bottom of the scale :p
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,921
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    If you need a quiz to understand your own politics...

    It's just a bit of fun.
    Come on Stevo, you've been here long enough to know, pretentiousness is the order of the day. ;)
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,560
    ballysmate said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    If you need a quiz to understand your own politics...

    It's just a bit of fun.
    Come on Stevo, you've been here long enough to know, pretentiousness is the order of the day. ;)
    Your turn Bally!
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    Stevo_666 said:

    3 to the right and 2 up.

    Anyone else? I'm wondering if Rick can punch through the bottom of the scale :p

    The only thing that will stop him is RJS already owning that space :smiley:
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,560
    coopster_the_1st said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    3 to the right and 2 up.

    Anyone else? I'm wondering if Rick can punch through the bottom of the scale :p

    The only thing that will stop him is RJS already owning that space :smiley:
    :D It could get competitive.

    'Mirror, mirror on wall, who's the wokest of them all?'
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,921
    2 to the right. 2up.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,589
    Less than half a square right and 2.5 above so very boring, middle of the road as I suspected.
  • johngti
    johngti Posts: 2,508
    Five left and a bit woke here. No real surprise!! Fun quiz
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,560
    Help is at hand if anyone is worried about being too low on the graph :smile:

    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,699
    coopster_the_1st said:

    rjsterry said:

    If you need a quiz to understand your own politics...

    Someone's tired! :tired_face:
    Always.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,270
    coopster_the_1st said:

    I've just done this Left/Right, Conservative/Woke quiz and it has put me exactly where I expected to be, slightly right(two squares) of centre and slightly Conservative (3 squares above centre)

    http://www.thetakemachine.co.uk/quiz

    One square up, half a square left.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,699
    edited July 2020
    Anyone else read the About section?

    The liberal/authoritarian axis is boring. Questions about civil liberties and democracy are less relevant than culture war issues are to current discourse. This is why we have decided to go with woke/conservative for the y axis.


    Whole thing invented by two people with not enough to do.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,560
    rjsterry said:

    Anyone else read the About section?

    The liberal/authoritarian axis is boring. Questions about civil liberties and democracy are less relevant than culture war issues are to current discourse. This is why we have decided to go with woke/conservative for the y axis.


    Whole thing invented by two people with not enough to do.
    Stop trying to be so bloody mature and have a go :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,921
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Anyone else read the About section?

    The liberal/authoritarian axis is boring. Questions about civil liberties and democracy are less relevant than culture war issues are to current discourse. This is why we have decided to go with woke/conservative for the y axis.


    Whole thing invented by two people with not enough to do.
    Stop trying to be so bloody mature and have a go :smile:
    Perhaps that's the problem. He's had a go but doesn't like the result.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,560
    ballysmate said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Anyone else read the About section?

    The liberal/authoritarian axis is boring. Questions about civil liberties and democracy are less relevant than culture war issues are to current discourse. This is why we have decided to go with woke/conservative for the y axis.


    Whole thing invented by two people with not enough to do.
    Stop trying to be so bloody mature and have a go :smile:
    Perhaps that's the problem. He's had a go but doesn't like the result.
    Maybe he's at the support group?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,699
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Anyone else read the About section?

    The liberal/authoritarian axis is boring. Questions about civil liberties and democracy are less relevant than culture war issues are to current discourse. This is why we have decided to go with woke/conservative for the y axis.


    Whole thing invented by two people with not enough to do.
    Stop trying to be so bloody mature and have a go :smile:
    Just catching up with work after home schooling is all.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,560
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Anyone else read the About section?

    The liberal/authoritarian axis is boring. Questions about civil liberties and democracy are less relevant than culture war issues are to current discourse. This is why we have decided to go with woke/conservative for the y axis.


    Whole thing invented by two people with not enough to do.
    Stop trying to be so bloody mature and have a go :smile:
    Just catching up with work after home schooling is all.
    You have an internet connection and a Disney channel subscription dont you? Job done.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,941
    rjsterry said:

    Anyone else read the About section?

    The liberal/authoritarian axis is boring. Questions about civil liberties and democracy are less relevant than culture war issues are to current discourse. This is why we have decided to go with woke/conservative for the y axis.


    Whole thing invented by two people with not enough to do.
    I'm not sure any of us is in a place to judge
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,699
    edited July 2020
    Yes to the first. No to the second. Looking up views of Earth from the ISS and then producing a painting based on what we found today. Got massively side-tracked into watching the SpaceX Crew Dragon docking with ISS. Disney can do one. They've already blighted our household enough.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,941
    Fair I think.




    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,699
    The bit I don't get is that they post a pretty good critique of the problems with the original chart, and then ignore all the points they have raised and just change the labels on the axes.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,921
    tailwindhome said:

    rjsterry said:

    Anyone else read the About section?

    The liberal/authoritarian axis is boring. Questions about civil liberties and democracy are less relevant than culture war issues are to current discourse. This is why we have decided to go with woke/conservative for the y axis.


    Whole thing invented by two people with not enough to do.
    I'm not sure any of us is in a place to judge
    Have a like.
    Rjs should have posted that in the Irony thread.

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