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Stevo_666

mamba80 wrote:

for millions of people, life isnt easy at all,

Whoa, shock exclusive - life isn't always easy. Add that to life not always being fair. Always has been that way and always will be.

Anyhow getting back to Labour an their support for Venezuela, look who Diane Abbott has appointed to her team. Great timing...
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/revealed-diane-abbott-hands-commons-job-to-activist-campaigning-for-venezuelan-dictator-a3608441.html

Good quote here: Ms Abbott welcomed Maduro’s election in 2013 with a tweet declaring “a better way is possible”
At least she is in line with JC on the country and system that she admires. Look how successful it is :roll:

mamba80

Stevo 666 wrote:

mamba80 wrote:

for millions of people, life isnt easy at all,

Whoa, shock exclusive - life isn't always easy. Add that to life not always being fair. Always has been that way and always will be.

Anyhow getting back to Labour an their support for Venezuela, look who Diane Abbott has appointed to her team. Great timing...
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/revealed-diane-abbott-hands-commons-job-to-activist-campaigning-for-venezuelan-dictator-a3608441.html

Good quote here: Ms Abbott welcomed Maduro’s election in 2013 with a tweet declaring “a better way is possible”
At least she is in line with JC on the country and system that she admires. Look how successful it is :roll:

oh go on then!

You are correct but one function of Government should be be reduce this number, the tories dont hold to this... look at the latest nhs waiting list numbers... up to 4m waiting for ops over the 18week target.. do they care? no.
which why they are behind in the polls, slowly slowly folk are seeing through them, a party for the well off and no one else. if they carry-on like this they ll be even further behind come 2022 or maybe earlier ... these tories might do anything

Stevo_666

mamba80 wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

mamba80 wrote:

for millions of people, life isnt easy at all,

Whoa, shock exclusive - life isn't always easy. Add that to life not always being fair. Always has been that way and always will be.

Anyhow getting back to Labour an their support for Venezuela, look who Diane Abbott has appointed to her team. Great timing...
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/revealed-diane-abbott-hands-commons-job-to-activist-campaigning-for-venezuelan-dictator-a3608441.html

Good quote here: Ms Abbott welcomed Maduro’s election in 2013 with a tweet declaring “a better way is possible”
At least she is in line with JC on the country and system that she admires. Look how successful it is :roll:

oh go on then!

You are correct but one function of Government should be be reduce this number, the tories dont hold to this... look at the latest nhs waiting list numbers... up to 4m waiting for ops over the 18week target.. do they care? no.
which why they are behind in the polls, slowly slowly folk are seeing through them, a party for the well off and no one else. if they carry-on like this they ll be even further behind come 2022 or maybe earlier ... these tories might do anything

Like staying in power?

Enough people saw through the 'callous tory' stereotype put about by the lefties to return a tory government for another 5 years 8)

rick_chasey

Don't worry everyone.

I can confirm Big Ben was still ringing this morning.

surrey_commuter

Rick Chasey wrote:

Don't worry everyone.

I can confirm Big Ben was still ringing this morning.

if it was so sacred to them you would think they would appreciate that Big Ben is the bell not the fvcking tower

rick_chasey

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08 ... our-years/

David Davis telling the workers, who apparently will suffer hearing damage if they work while the bell is ringing, to "just get on with it."

Too many jokes about David Davis not listening, or putting his fingers in his ears etc...

Fill yer boots.

tangled_metal

Oh they should silence the bell for sure. Hearing loss and other workplace noise related conditions are to be avoided over and above the wishes of any petty wishes of an over patriotic (pathetic) Brit. Whether an MP or not. If you dilute health and safety on the whim of idiots any employer could be liable for a claim. But it's not even that, it's a human being who's being.affected by workplace conditions.

First responsibility is to reduce the noise to safe levels. If that can't be done you mitigate. Mitigation isn't first choice. This workplace can have the nose easily reduced by shutting the bell down.

I can't believe David Davies was serious. If he truly was then he's an idiot who should not be.anywhere near the levers of power.

BTW health and safety legislation was a world leading piece of farsighted legislation. It's something we should he proud that we led the way with. DD should be ashamed by his remarks. What importance is a bell ringing over somebody's hearing?

rick_chasey

Tangled Metal wrote:

BTW health and safety legislation was a world leading piece of farsighted legislation. It's something we should he proud that we led the way with. DD should be ashamed by his remarks. What importance is a bell ringing over somebody's hearing?

Metaphor for regulation & Brexit, no?

rick_chasey

motogull

Tangled Metal wrote:

Oh they should silence the bell for sure. Hearing loss and other workplace noise related conditions are to be avoided over and above the wishes of any petty wishes of an over patriotic (pathetic) Brit. Whether an MP or not. If you dilute health and safety on the whim of idiots any employer could be liable for a claim. But it's not even that, it's a human being who's being.affected by workplace conditions.

First responsibility is to reduce the noise to safe levels. If that can't be done you mitigate. Mitigation isn't first choice. This workplace can have the nose easily reduced by shutting the bell down.

I can't believe David Davies was serious. If he truly was then he's an idiot who should not be.anywhere near the levers of power.

BTW health and safety legislation was a world leading piece of farsighted legislation. It's something we should he proud that we led the way with. DD should be ashamed by his remarks. What importance is a bell ringing over somebody's hearing?

Well said fella.

rick_chasey

^^DD's own self importance trumps much else.

Likewise, don't imagine his role in Brexit is much more than an ego inflating exercise.

mamba80

Rick Chasey wrote:

^^DD's own self importance trumps much else.

Likewise, don't imagine his role in Brexit is much more than an ego inflating exercise.

i think that could be said for the whole lot of em, its like some big experimental joke, they r all wealthy enough not to be affected by any downsides.

rick_chasey

mamba80 wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

^^DD's own self importance trumps much else.

Likewise, don't imagine his role in Brexit is much more than an ego inflating exercise.

i think that could be said for the whole lot of em, its like some big experimental joke, they r all wealthy enough not to be affected by any downsides.

You could, but there's your average MP, and there's DD.

mamba80

Rick Chasey wrote:

mamba80 wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

^^DD's own self importance trumps much else.

Likewise, don't imagine his role in Brexit is much more than an ego inflating exercise.

i think that could be said for the whole lot of em, its like some big experimental joke, they r all wealthy enough not to be affected by any downsides.

You could, but there's your average MP, and there's DD.

yeah very true, the guy is an idiot, makes it up as he goes along but your avg (Tory and Lab) MP is also going along with it all too, only the libdems are talking some sense.

surrey_commuter

Rick Chasey wrote:

^^DD's own self importance trumps much else.

Likewise, don't imagine his role in Brexit is much more than an ego inflating exercise.

Fox's main driver for no CU or transition arrangement seems to be the fact he would be redundant.

surrey_commuter

mamba80 wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

mamba80 wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

^^DD's own self importance trumps much else.

Likewise, don't imagine his role in Brexit is much more than an ego inflating exercise.

i think that could be said for the whole lot of em, its like some big experimental joke, they r all wealthy enough not to be affected by any downsides.

You could, but there's your average MP, and there's DD.

yeah very true, the guy is an idiot, makes it up as he goes along but your avg (Tory and Lab) MP is also going along with it all too, only the libdems are talking some sense.

I think your average politician is a second rater. The proof of this that when they are lazy or media obsessed things turn out better. So the less they try and do the better. Now they have to do something we see how utterly bereft of a clue they actually are.

A bunch of business interns would have figured out they needed to agree positions on the major factors before triggering A50

rick_chasey

So the mail, I think we can agree, is not very pro-labour laws.

Just read this about their own employment practices.

rick_chasey

Any job better than no job?

Apaz not quite.

Stevo_666

Interesting letter. Take note, lefties
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/letter-to-a-young-corbynista/

ExCyclist

Stevo 666 wrote:

Interesting letter. Take note, lefties
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/letter-to-a-young-corbynista/

Written by a 6th form Economics student.

Stevo_666

ExCyclist wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Interesting letter. Take note, lefties
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/letter-to-a-young-corbynista/

Written by a 6th form Economics student.

Unlikely...

Some decent home truths in there. Which bits can you show to be factually incorrect?

mamba80

Stevo 666 wrote:

ExCyclist wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Interesting letter. Take note, lefties
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/letter-to-a-young-corbynista/

Written by a 6th form Economics student.

Unlikely...

Some decent home truths in there. Which bits can you show to be factually incorrect?

all of it, because todays Labour party does not aspire for the UK to became a Communist state

In every single country that has become socialist and aspired to communism, political oppression has taken place. People have been killed and imprisoned without trial. In some countries including the Soviet Union, China and Cambodia, millions died in what you might call the Communist Holocaust. But political oppression has taken place in every single one, including Cuba and Yugoslavia.


to suggest JC is some sort of british Pol Pot.... this article was clearly written by Uncle John shortly after his diagnoses of advanced dementia....

Todays Labour party want access to the SM and the CU during any transitional period and yes FOM because we do not yet have the skilled work force in place to have migration of a few 1000, why is that? because its good for the UK economy business and our growth not too mention tax revenues... the Tories do not, so who is the greatest danger to our prosperity?

surrey_commuter

Stevo 666 wrote:

ExCyclist wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Interesting letter. Take note, lefties
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/letter-to-a-young-corbynista/

Written by a 6th form Economics student.

Unlikely...

Some decent home truths in there. Which bits can you show to be factually incorrect?

I really do not think it is intended as a serious article.

Stevo_666

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

ExCyclist wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Interesting letter. Take note, lefties
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/letter-to-a-young-corbynista/

Written by a 6th form Economics student.

Unlikely...

Some decent home truths in there. Which bits can you show to be factually incorrect?

I really do not think it is intended as a serious article.

Of course it is tongue in cheek. But as mentioned there are some decent home truths in there.

It certainly got a reaction from a few lefties. One offers no counter evidence and the other tries to steer it back onto his hate the tories/BREXIT hobby horse. Two cracking examples of leftiebollox

rjsterry

The paranoid comparison of Corbyn and McDonnell with Mao, Pol Pot, Ceaucescu and Stalin is as risible as comparing Michael Howard or Nigel Lawson with Franco or Pinochet. This is just standard issue reds-under-the-bed rightiebollox.

Lookyhere

Stevo 666 wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

ExCyclist wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Interesting letter. Take note, lefties
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/letter-to-a-young-corbynista/

Written by a 6th form Economics student.

Unlikely...

Some decent home truths in there. Which bits can you show to be factually incorrect?

I really do not think it is intended as a serious article.

Of course it is tongue in cheek. But as mentioned there are some decent home truths in there.

It certainly got a reaction from a few lefties. One offers no counter evidence and the other tries to steer it back onto his hate the tories/BREXIT hobby horse. Two cracking examples of leftiebollox

Its a ridiculous article and not worthy of any counter argument, it shows how short you are on ideas to support your beloved tory party and their desire to ruin this country, not to mention your obvious hatred of Labour and in particular Corbyn.

Alain Quay

If this forum is a cake stop, this thread is the turd in the corner.

Stevo_666

Alain Quay wrote:

If this forum is a cake stop, this thread is the turd in the corner.

I wondered when you would pop up again for one of your cut and paste whinges.

Stevo_666

Lookyhere wrote:

not to mention your obvious hatred of Labour and in particular Corbyn.

Sharp and observant as ever.

But no attempt to counter any of the facts in the link. That's three of you now.

ExCyclist

Stevo 666 wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

ExCyclist wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Interesting letter. Take note, lefties
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/letter-to-a-young-corbynista/

Written by a 6th form Economics student.

Unlikely...

Some decent home truths in there. Which bits can you show to be factually incorrect?

I really do not think it is intended as a serious article.

Of course it is tongue in cheek. But as mentioned there are some decent home truths in there.

It certainly got a reaction from a few lefties. One offers no counter evidence and the other tries to steer it back onto his hate the tories/BREXIT hobby horse. Two cracking examples of leftiebollox

Not really - I just leave you to spout your spurious crap and have a laugh at your posts. Thanks for keeping me entertained though. X