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mamba80

Stevo 666 wrote:

You have to wonder about the intelligence of some Corbyn supporters:



Not sure what they think Fernando Tor(r)es is going to do to the NHS? I'm sure he's got private medical cover

you should have gone to SpecSavers lol!

https://www.specsavers.co.uk/eye-health ... n-eye-test

Stevo_666

rjsterry wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

Is there an issue with your or my eyesight? I can see an I between the TOR and the ES.

Ouch. Something about Specsavers.

Mind you, I don't approve of the spelling of vandalise with a Z.

Two spelling mistakes in 6 words. Must be a staunch Corbyn supporter. Maybe she also costs up his election promises?

There is an I between the TOR and the ES, Stevo, and vandalize is more of a style guide choice. With such rich and pickings, you can do better than two spelling mistakes that aren't spelling mistakes.

Interestingly, if you start typing the word Tories into Google, the first auto-complete suggestion is dementia tax. Oops.

I see you've been looking very closely. I might let her off with not being able to write clearly. Blloody Tory education cuts eh

The quality of the sign is another valid point. Shoddy stuff that most primary school kids could have made a better job of. Imagine if we let this shower run the country...

rick_chasey

Stevo being deliberately myopic to make a facile point?

No. Way.

rjsterry

Stevo 666 wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

Is there an issue with your or my eyesight? I can see an I between the TOR and the ES.

Ouch. Something about Specsavers.

Mind you, I don't approve of the spelling of vandalise with a Z.

Two spelling mistakes in 6 words. Must be a staunch Corbyn supporter. Maybe she also costs up his election promises?

There is an I between the TOR and the ES, Stevo, and vandalize is more of a style guide choice. With such rich and pickings, you can do better than two spelling mistakes that aren't spelling mistakes.

Interestingly, if you start typing the word Tories into Google, the first auto-complete suggestion is dementia tax. Oops.

I see you've been looking very closely. I might let her off with not being able to write clearly. Blloody Tory education cuts eh

The quality of the sign is another valid point. Shoddy stuff that most primary school kids could have made a better job of. Imagine if we let this shower run the country...

Yes, very poor lettering and layout. I assume you picked that up from the Times. I did like the headline describing all those little old ladies as a hard left mob.

Pross

rjsterry wrote:

Definitely an I.






Why am I doing this?

What about on the one behind the (other) beardy bloke? They look identical but I'm struggling to see an 'I' on that one. It looks like they got it wrong first time and added it afterwards. Unlike Abbott they appear to have corrected the mistake at the second attempt though.

Stevo_666

rjsterry wrote:

Yes, very poor lettering and layout. I assume you picked that up from the Times. I did like the headline describing all those little old ladies as a hard left mob.

Nope, haven't read the Times. Just my own observations.

If Labour can even fund some decent election placards I don't hold out much hope for their plans for the country

rjsterry

Pross wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

Definitely an I.






Why am I doing this?

What about on the one behind the (other) beardy bloke? They look identical but I'm struggling to see an 'I' on that one. It looks like they got it wrong first time and added it afterwards. Unlike Abbott they appear to have corrected the mistake at the second attempt though.

Hmm. Suspiciously similar yet some subtle differences. An extra "THE" on the right hand version. It's almost as though someone had a load of "VANDALIZE THE NHS" posters and then the "DON'T LET THE TORIES" bit was written on a separate piece of paper and stuck over the top.

Frank the tank

The benefits "scroungers" want something for nothing.
Those higher earners seem to want public services whilst having tax cuts.
NO, you only get good public service if you pay for it.
May talks about our great services in the wake of the Manchester bombing whilst all she and her government ever do is cut security services budget.
Hypocrit of the highest level. Most on this forum will vote for her though.
You pay your money (or not) and take your choice.

tangled_metal

Could the placards once have been more forceful but some Labour lawyer said it was legally risky. Perhaps something stating it as a fact. "Tories vandalize our NHS" originally. They just hand stuck the "Don't let the Tories" on a piece of paper stuck over the top. It does look like that bit is stuck on.

surrey_commuter

bendertherobot wrote:

Dunno, this one's pretty clear too.

the guy in shades behind Dave Lee Travis has an identical banner - is somebody printing signs in a sh1tty manner to make them look authentic?

kingstongraham

...

kingstongraham

From November 2016.

"NHS campaigners at Oxfordshire County Council try to stop the underfunding and privatisation of our NHS that would happen if the so-called Sustainability and Transformation Plans (STPs) are passed by councillors."

tangled_metal

Reused placards! Very cost efficient and environmentally friendly. Just like they're recycling '70/'80s policies. Could be the greenest Labour campaign yet! Now all they have to do is dig out there print overruns of Foot's campaign literature, substituting his photo with Corbyn's and you're there!

rjsterry

Congratulations! A mystery solved!

It might even be the same woman holding the placard.

bendertherobot

Well, that was a fruitful 2 pages.

pblakeney

bendertherobot wrote:

Well, that was a fruitful 232 pages.

FTFY

Stevo_666

Tangled Metal wrote:

Now all they have to do is dig out there print overruns of Foot's campaign literature, substituting his photo with Corbyn's and you're there!

The policies are very similar already, no need to change anything.

Stevo_666

Frank the tank wrote:

The benefits "scroungers" want something for nothing.
Those higher earners seem to want public services whilst having tax cuts.
NO, you only get good public service if you pay for it.
May talks about our great services in the wake of the Manchester bombing whilst all she and her government ever do is cut security services budget.
Hypocrit of the highest level. Most on this forum will vote for her though.
You pay your money (or not) and take your choice.

The choice is between the conservatives and a bunch of hard line lefties.

There's a good reason why the opinion polls are the way they are. You'd have thought that Labour might remember what happened when they went down a very similar route in the 80's, but they don't seem to learn. We're not a socialist country at heart.

tangled_metal

Stevo 666 wrote:

Tangled Metal wrote:

Now all they have to do is dig out there print overruns of Foot's campaign literature, substituting his photo with Corbyn's and you're there!

The policies are very similar already, no need to change anything.

Only the images of the MPs or leader at the time. Would be embarrassing for activists who weren't even born then being asked who's the old man in a scruffy coat on the recycled leaflet. They might answer with Corbyn instead of Foot!

Stevo_666

Tangled Metal wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Tangled Metal wrote:

Now all they have to do is dig out there print overruns of Foot's campaign literature, substituting his photo with Corbyn's and you're there!

The policies are very similar already, no need to change anything.

Only the images of the MPs or leader at the time. Would be embarrassing for activists who weren't even born then being asked who's the old man in a scruffy coat on the recycled leaflet. They might answer with Corbyn instead of Foot!

The number of seats they will end up with in parliament will probably be quite similar. Which is probably linked to how left wing they are.

kingstongraham

bendertherobot wrote:

Well, that was a fruitful 2 pages.

Thanks - those two pages have some proven facts in them.

mamba80

Stevo 666 wrote:

Frank the tank wrote:

The benefits "scroungers" want something for nothing.
Those higher earners seem to want public services whilst having tax cuts.
NO, you only get good public service if you pay for it.
May talks about our great services in the wake of the Manchester bombing whilst all she and her government ever do is cut security services budget.
Hypocrit of the highest level. Most on this forum will vote for her though.
You pay your money (or not) and take your choice.

The choice is between the conservatives and a bunch of hard line lefties.

There's a good reason why the opinion polls are the way they are. You'd have thought that Labour might remember what happened when they went down a very similar route in the 80's, but they don't seem to learn. We're not a socialist country at heart.

One poll puts Tory lead down to 5% thats close to margin of error

People are starting to see through May, strong an stable she is not and the manifesto (and her handling) is proving to be a disaster.

Just as the brexit vote proved, folk want change and May is promising exactly what we ve always had.

Odds on a tory win but events dear boy events!

Stevo_666

mamba80 wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Frank the tank wrote:

The benefits "scroungers" want something for nothing.
Those higher earners seem to want public services whilst having tax cuts.
NO, you only get good public service if you pay for it.
May talks about our great services in the wake of the Manchester bombing whilst all she and her government ever do is cut security services budget.
Hypocrit of the highest level. Most on this forum will vote for her though.
You pay your money (or not) and take your choice.

The choice is between the conservatives and a bunch of hard line lefties.

There's a good reason why the opinion polls are the way they are. You'd have thought that Labour might remember what happened when they went down a very similar route in the 80's, but they don't seem to learn. We're not a socialist country at heart.

One poll puts Tory lead down to 5% thats close to margin of error

People are starting to see through May, strong an stable she is not and the manifesto (and her handling) is proving to be a disaster.

Just as the brexit vote proved, folk want change and May is promising exactly what we ve always had.

Odds on a tory win but events dear boy events!

At least the left have hope

Although not too worried as my market value will rocket even if the impossible happens. Bit of a win win situation here

mamba80

Stevo 666 wrote:

mamba80 wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Frank the tank wrote:

The benefits "scroungers" want something for nothing.
Those higher earners seem to want public services whilst having tax cuts.
NO, you only get good public service if you pay for it.
May talks about our great services in the wake of the Manchester bombing whilst all she and her government ever do is cut security services budget.
Hypocrit of the highest level. Most on this forum will vote for her though.
You pay your money (or not) and take your choice.

The choice is between the conservatives and a bunch of hard line lefties.

There's a good reason why the opinion polls are the way they are. You'd have thought that Labour might remember what happened when they went down a very similar route in the 80's, but they don't seem to learn. We're not a socialist country at heart.

One poll puts Tory lead down to 5% thats close to margin of error

People are starting to see through May, strong an stable she is not and the manifesto (and her handling) is proving to be a disaster.

Just as the brexit vote proved, folk want change and May is promising exactly what we ve always had.

Odds on a tory win but events dear boy events!

At least the left have hope

Although not too worried as my market value will rocket even if the impossible happens. Bit of a win win situation here

Good man, you ll also be paying a bit more tax under Labour too... so win win lol!

tangled_metal

He's a tax adviser mambo, he's really going to pay more? Do you know how good he thinks he is?

He'll get the chance to prove it.on his own finances under Corbyn I reckon should hell freeze over!

bompington

... so polls are showing the gap closing.

Apart from the unreliability of polls - I very much doubt the gap is as small as some polls are saying - there is a message here: and I would say that it is chiefly about the sheer uselessness of May's campaign. And, I suppose, the Tories' offering - there's not a lot in it for remain-voting free-marketeers like me.
Not to mention the depressing reinforcement of the fact that a huge number of otherwise intelligent people can't resist the two fundamentals of Labour's message:
1. Never mind evidence or logic, Tories are just evil, OK?
2. Free lunch for everybody! Yippeee!

Jez mon

bompington wrote:

... so polls are showing the gap closing.

Apart from the unreliability of polls - I very much doubt the gap is as small as some polls are saying - there is a message here: and I would say that it is chiefly about the sheer uselessness of May's campaign. And, I suppose, the Tories' offering - there's not a lot in it for remain-voting free-marketeers like me.
Not to mention the depressing reinforcement of the fact that a huge number of otherwise intelligent people can't resist the two fundamentals of Labour's message:
1. Never mind evidence or logic, Tories are just evil, OK?
2. Free lunch for everybody! Yippeee!

I think for a lot of otherwise educated people. It's not so much that tories are evil, it's a general feeling that they are not doing a good job. In spite of years of semi austerity, they haven't really seemed to gain a handle on the deficit...additionally, the pain that was first forecast when some of the cuts is starting to show. For example, increasing prison riots and a seemingly general crisis within the NHS.

Add to that, some bizzare policy decisions, like a 24/7 NHS (having had an ill relative recently, I can confirm that it's already open 24/7 and even including christmas and bank holidays!), capping energy bills, not to mention brexit...

They aren't going to go down well in history are they?

rick_chasey

bompington wrote:

... so polls are showing the gap closing.

Apart from the unreliability of polls - I very much doubt the gap is as small as some polls are saying - there is a message here: and I would say that it is chiefly about the sheer uselessness of May's campaign. And, I suppose, the Tories' offering - there's not a lot in it for remain-voting free-marketeers like me.
Not to mention the depressing reinforcement of the fact that a huge number of otherwise intelligent people can't resist the two fundamentals of Labour's message:
1. Never mind evidence or logic, Tories are just evil, OK?
2. Free lunch for everybody! Yippeee!

Tories typically outperform the polls, & Labour under, so worth baring in mind.

Tories have had a shocker, campaign wise, but then the polls could hardly have widened much more - we should have expected this.

mamba80

Tangled Metal wrote:

He's a tax adviser mambo, he's really going to pay more? Do you know how good he thinks he is?

He'll get the chance to prove it.on his own finances under Corbyn I reckon should hell freeze over!

i believe Stevo is PAYE so it's limited and i suspect he has already exploited any evasi... sorry avoidance schemes lol!

i also have faith that stevo realises that tax pays for important public services, such as those involved in the MAnchester bombing, so will be more than happy to pay a small amount extra.

rjsterry

bompington wrote:

... so polls are showing the gap closing.

Apart from the unreliability of polls - I very much doubt the gap is as small as some polls are saying - there is a message here: and I would say that it is chiefly about the sheer uselessness of May's campaign. And, I suppose, the Tories' offering - there's not a lot in it for remain-voting free-marketeers like me.
Not to mention the depressing reinforcement of the fact that a huge number of otherwise intelligent people can't resist the two fundamentals of Labour's message:
1. Never mind evidence or logic, Tories are just evil, OK?
2. Free lunch for everybody! Yippeee!

Indeed. The IFS would seem to agree.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -manifesto