Giro Stage 10 - spoilers

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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    According to the twitterazzi, it's breaks rule 2.3.029: a rider can only get assist from his own team.
    Seems Roman Sicard got docked a 2 minute penalty for it in the Tour de I'Avenir
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Is the hammer about to come down upon Richie's cranium?
    https://twitter.com/philmaertens/status ... 4256055296
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    RichN95 wrote:
    The_Boy wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    At least Porte has got his allegedly inevitable 'one bad day' out of the way.

    i already did that *angry*
    So you did. I will turn over all royalties I make from that comment to you.

    *quits job*

    *drops out of college*

    *puts feet up*
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Is the hammer about to come down upon Richie's cranium?
    https://twitter.com/philmaertens/status ... 4256055296

    I've had a look at the rule and I see stuff about pushing other riders, but not lending a new wheel.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    Is the hammer about to come down upon Richie's cranium?
    https://twitter.com/philmaertens/status ... 4256055296

    A lot of tweets saying that Bertie should be DQd for taking his helmet off on stage 7 - what was that about?!

    (both would be ridiculous obviously)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    According to the twitterazzi, it's breaks rule 2.3.029: a rider can only get assist from his own team.
    Seems Roman Sicard got docked a 2 minute penalty for it in the Tour de I'Avenir

    This is what I picked up from the doc:

    20. Non-regulation breakdown or medical assistance
    20.1 One-Day Race Rider: 100; During last 20 km: elimination + 200; Rider: 30; During last 20 km: elimination + 50;
    failure to respect article 2.3.029: failure to respect article 2.3.029:
    disqualification and 200 disqualification and 200
    20.2 Stage Race 1st offence: 5; 2nd offence: 100; Following 1st offence: warning; 2nd offence: 20; Following
    offences: 200. During last 20 km of stage: 200, offences: 100. During last 20 km of stage: 50,
    relegation to the last place in his group, 1’ penalty relegation to end of his field, 1’ penalty
    in general classification. Other licence-holder: 200; in general classification. Other licence-holder: 100;
    failure to respect article 2.3.029: failure to respect article 2.3.029:
    disqualification and 200 disqualification and 200

    http://www.uci.ch/mm/Document/News/Rule ... nglish.PDF

    page 17.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    From Cycling Weekly

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    CFYbdUUWgAEwoK4.jpg

    So where is the proper mechanic?

    Controversial. Wonder how the other favourites feel about a different team assisting?


    It's not controversial - the orica rider had nothing to lose and a friend to gain by doing it.

    Christ, do people not get cycling sometimes?

    The Italians would do the same for one another for a Giro favourite anyway.

    Easy, Tiger. Glad your superior knowledge makes you better than me. Next time I'll just come straight to you for comment rather than pose a question to the masses.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    RichN95 wrote:
    From Cycling Weekly

    CFYbdViXIAAmaRQ.jpg

    CFYbdUUWgAEwoK4.jpg

    So where is the proper mechanic?

    You've got a friend in me. How lovely. Warms my cold dead heart.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    As does this. Ta Big Bean.
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    Does anyone have a picture of a pretty horse? I need cheering up.

    ChevaldeCamargue.jpg
    Correlation is not causation.
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Well done Ulrika. how'd that happen? Were Team Emissions asleep?
    ...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    the Inner Ring ‏@inrng 2m2 minutes ago

    Richie Porte gets a two minute time penalty says @cyclingpro #giro

    Please god, no!
    Correlation is not causation.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    the Inner Ring ‏@inrng 2m2 minutes ago

    Richie Porte gets a two minute time penalty says @cyclingpro #giro

    Please god, no!

    Sorry.
    http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/girodit ... 4733.shtml
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    How convenient for Fabio Aru... :roll:
    Correlation is not causation.
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    UCI jury (not Giro jury) penalised him 2 mins for taking a wheel from a different team's rider. Didn't know that was a rule!
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    According to the twitterazzi, it's breaks rule 2.3.029: a rider can only get assist from his own team.
    Seems Roman Sicard got docked a 2 minute penalty for it in the Tour de I'Avenir

    This is what I picked up from the doc:

    20. Non-regulation breakdown or medical assistance
    20.1 One-Day Race Rider: 100; During last 20 km: elimination + 200; Rider: 30; During last 20 km: elimination + 50;
    failure to respect article 2.3.029: failure to respect article 2.3.029:
    disqualification and 200 disqualification and 200
    20.2 Stage Race 1st offence: 5; 2nd offence: 100; Following 1st offence: warning; 2nd offence: 20; Following
    offences: 200. During last 20 km of stage: 200, offences: 100. During last 20 km of stage: 50,
    relegation to the last place in his group, 1’ penalty relegation to end of his field, 1’ penalty
    in general classification. Other licence-holder: 200; in general classification. Other licence-holder: 100;
    failure to respect article 2.3.029: failure to respect article 2.3.029:
    disqualification and 200 disqualification and 200

    http://www.uci.ch/mm/Document/News/Rule ... nglish.PDF

    page 17.
    That is a fascinatingly inconsistent document. Violence towards another rider apparently merits a similar punishment to helping one, while outright cheating/collusion between different teams or pushing other riders is only worth a 10" penalty and small fine (for the 1st offence). And taking off your helmet is instant disqualification... .

    I guess it's lucky they generally don't bother to enforce these most of the time...
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    the Inner Ring ‏@inrng 2m2 minutes ago

    Richie Porte gets a two minute time penalty says @cyclingpro #giro

    Please god, no!
    Oh ffs.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    What a joke. Sorry but that is an absolute farce. I hope Sky go home in protest.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    the Inner Ring ‏@inrng 2m2 minutes ago

    Richie Porte gets a two minute time penalty says @cyclingpro #giro

    Please god, no!

    Sorry.
    http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/girodit ... 4733.shtml
    3' 09" behind Contador now! F*cking hell. That's just ridiculous.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    I dont like that he got a wheel from Orica but that is f*cking bs to give him a 2min penalty.

    Well I know you guys like history books but I will be subbing 2mins from Porte's time in the final GC.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Serious joke of a race. I get that rules are rules but how about we let things play out on the road? I'm sure Contador and Aru will be happy with winning in this way. Taints any victory for them.

    How many other rules have been broken during this race by others that have gone unpunished?
    Correlation is not causation.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    6 of the top 7 are almost certainly doping. Interesting. Hopefully my men Caruso and Formolo will take the prize!
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    This entire sport is organised to minimise the chances of the best riders competing to the finish in its greatest events. What a farce.
    ...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    I feel your pain ATC!

    I wonder if Porte hadnt tweeted it and Watson hadnt photograhped it whether the race jersey would have known.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    edited May 2015
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    Hope Sky have the good sense to have him throttle back, perhaps even pull out and save it for the Tour. No point in turning himself inside out going for stage wins when they already have one.
    What's done is done

    Indirectly, it's landed Bertie in it too.
    Tinkoff now have to combat all three Astana GC riders all on their lonesome.
    So, far they have been none too successful.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    I feel your pain ATC!

    I wonder if Porte hadnt tweeted it and Watson hadnt photograhped it whether the race jersey would have known.

    Probably not Frenchie. It's rubbish. I wanted to see a show down on the road. To quote you for a second: "this is a disaster for cycling fans globally."
    Correlation is not causation.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Eh, Blazing. Talk of pulling out is just stupid.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Eh, Blazing. Talk of pulling out is just stupid.

    Why?
    Greipel is going to do it.
    Not much point in emptying the tank on a race that is already lost.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Hope they can appeal overninght and some sensible discretion can be applied. He's suffered plenty. There's a Sky rider in the pic so he didn't gain much from the irregular assistance. And the UCI have just trashed their race.
    ...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Dont worry about thr other Astana riders. Landa will get pumped in the TT and Cataldo will get pumped in the real mountains.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    ChevaldeCamargue.jpg

    I need a whole field of these right now.
    Correlation is not causation.