Stage 8 Giro d'Italia 2015 *SPOILERS*

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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    General classification after stage 8
    1 Alberto Contador (Spa) Tinkoff-Saxo 32:40:07
    2 Fabio Aru (Ita) Astana Pro Team 0:00:04
    3 Richie Porte (Aus) Team Sky 0:00:22
    4 Dario Cataldo (Ita) Astana Pro Team 0:00:30
    5 Mikel Landa Meana (Spa) Astana Pro Team 0:00:42
    6 Roman Kreuziger (Cze) Tinkoff-Saxo 0:01:00
    7 Giovanni Visconti (Ita) Movistar Team 0:01:16
    8 Rigoberto Uran (Col) Etixx - Quick-Step 0:01:24
    Contador is the Greatest
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    What we need to settle this is a man dressed a doctor with a giant syringe. If he can punch him, he's lying.

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    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    RichN95 wrote:
    Porte's not intending to drop him. He's intending to thump him in the time trial.

    Yes because he doesn't know what panache is and knows that 57kg climbers typically can put minutes into far heavier riders with solid TT palmares.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • thegibdog
    thegibdog Posts: 2,106
    Flecha doing well to restrain himself from grabbing Contador on the shoulder during the post stage interview. :)
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    As my dear departed mum would have said "he did have poorly shoulder but it's a lot better now" which I think is about as much as can be said about it.
    @JaunePeril

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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    RichN95 wrote:
    Porte's not intending to drop him. He's intending to thump him in the time trial.

    Yes because he doesn't know what panache is and knows that 57kg climbers typically can put minutes into far heavier riders with solid TT palmares.

    Is it an award like the Oscars?
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    As my dear departed mum would have said "he did have poorly shoulder but it's a lot better now" which I think is about as much as can be said about it.

    Wise woman.
    LeePaton wrote:
    I think Porte has this sewn up, no one can gap him thus far on a slope and he has the best TT I reckon. Hence Aru attacking on every single climb.

    Easy now.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    RichN95 wrote:
    Porte's not intending to drop him. He's intending to thump him in the time trial.

    Yes because he doesn't know what panache is and knows that 57kg climbers typically can put minutes into far heavier riders with solid TT palmares.

    Is it an award like the Oscars?

    Carlos was hoping it was a pastry.

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    Correlation is not causation.
  • LeePaton
    LeePaton Posts: 353
    I hope not picked C*ntador PTP but thats currently how i feel. Hope i get double bluffed secretly and The one armed wonder runs away with it.
    It's not so much about winning, I just hate losing.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    RichN95 wrote:
    Porte's not intending to drop him. He's intending to thump him in the time trial.

    Yes because he doesn't know what panache is and knows that 57kg climbers typically can put minutes into far heavier riders with solid TT palmares.

    Yeah, I hate when skinny climbers who've been flogging themselves for GC beat specialists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFk0jFTkyFM
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    RichN95 wrote:
    Porte's not intending to drop him. He's intending to thump him in the time trial.

    Yes because he doesn't know what panache is and knows that 57kg climbers typically can put minutes into far heavier riders with solid TT palmares.

    To be fair, if Contador wins this as is, without having to make any move, he won't have won it with panache either, he'll have won it with a marginally better TTT than Aru.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    LeePaton wrote:
    I hope not picked C*ntador PTP but thats currently how i feel. Hope i get double bluffed secretly and The one armed wonder runs away with it.

    Never pick the riders you actually want to win for PTP. This is the one thing I am superstitious about. Utter gubbins of course, but...
    Correlation is not causation.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    RichN95 wrote:
    Porte's not intending to drop him. He's intending to thump him in the time trial.

    Yes because he doesn't know what panache is and knows that 57kg climbers typically can put minutes into far heavier riders with solid TT palmares.

    Yeah, I hate when skinny climbers who've been flogging themselves for GC beat specialists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFk0jFTkyFM

    Yeah, you know that flat courses are different to ones which have a very tough climb on. I was standing on that climb that day and Contador came past so fast I couldn't take a photo. Cancellara came past so slowly I could see the muscles flexing with the effort.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,652
    I have no problem with riders bluffing, double bluffing, triple bluffing, feigning injury, feigning being uninjured - whatever. Just make it look good FFS!

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  • ridgerider
    ridgerider Posts: 2,852
    adr82 wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    Has this forum just gone nuts? My iPad seems to have lost some pages on this thread and switched to the workshop section for no reason!
    Yeah something weird happened, half the thread disappeared for a minute


    Yeah right...the forum goes down but then comes back as if nothing had happened. Who would believe it???
    Half man, Half bike
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    LeePaton wrote:
    I hope not picked C*ntador PTP but thats currently how i feel. Hope i get double bluffed secretly and The one armed wonder runs away with it.

    Never pick the riders you actually want to win for PTP. This is the one thing I am superstitious about. Utter gubbins of course, but...
    I do that too. It's not so much the superstition as much as evening out the disappointment and joy.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    RichN95 wrote:
    Porte's not intending to drop him. He's intending to thump him in the time trial.

    Yes because he doesn't know what panache is and knows that 57kg climbers typically can put minutes into far heavier riders with solid TT palmares.

    Yeah, I hate when skinny climbers who've been flogging themselves for GC beat specialists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFk0jFTkyFM

    Yeah, you know that flat courses are different to ones which have a very tough climb on. I was standing on that climb that day and Contador came past so fast I couldn't take a photo. Cancellara came past so slowly I could see the muscles flexing with the effort.

    Which of course explains why all the other climbers were way down whilst Wiggins, Millar and Cancellara were top 10
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    LeePaton wrote:
    I hope not picked C*ntador PTP but thats currently how i feel. Hope i get double bluffed secretly and The one armed wonder runs away with it.

    Never pick the riders you actually want to win for PTP. This is the one thing I am superstitious about. Utter gubbins of course, but...
    I do that too. It's not so much the superstition as much as evening out the disappointment and joy.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,652
    Delete double post - General Error strikes again, the fiendish warmonger.
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  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    RichN95 wrote:
    Porte's not intending to drop him. He's intending to thump him in the time trial.

    Yes because he doesn't know what panache is and knows that 57kg climbers typically can put minutes into far heavier riders with solid TT palmares.

    Is it an award like the Oscars?

    Close. It's a tasty beverage

    saint-omer-panache-a-french-shandy-drink-sold-in-morrisons-supermarket-DPMTXH.jpg
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  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    RichN95 wrote:
    Porte's not intending to drop him. He's intending to thump him in the time trial.

    Yes because he doesn't know what panache is and knows that 57kg climbers typically can put minutes into far heavier riders with solid TT palmares.
    That climb wasn't steep enough to gamble this early in the race.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Did you miss the 300m Porte hammered on the front?

    :?: :shock:
    ThomThom wrote:
    Contador was the only one riding wheels here. And you know that.

    He had a twice disclocated and a crash at 40mph. He is also in the lead. Him riding wheels is exactly what he should be doing. And you know that.

    I'm confused. If he crashed at 40mph why is there no sign of any road rash on him at all? I assumed he must have virtually avoided the crash but taken a low speed tumble onto his shoulder. I've done that and it often hurts shoulders more than a high speed fall.
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    RichN95 wrote:
    Porte's not intending to drop him. He's intending to thump him in the time trial.

    Yes because he doesn't know what panache is and knows that 57kg climbers typically can put minutes into far heavier riders with solid TT palmares.

    Can we have some evidence to back this nonsense up for once and for all? Otherwise it's boring and undignified insinuation...
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    The_Boy wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Porte's not intending to drop him. He's intending to thump him in the time trial.

    Yes because he doesn't know what panache is and knows that 57kg climbers typically can put minutes into far heavier riders with solid TT palmares.

    Is it an award like the Oscars?

    Close. It's a tasty beverage for children.

    saint-omer-panache-a-french-shandy-drink-sold-in-morrisons-supermarket-DPMTXH.jpg

    Fixed that for you. :wink:
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Pross wrote:
    Did you miss the 300m Porte hammered on the front?

    :?: :shock:
    ThomThom wrote:
    Contador was the only one riding wheels here. And you know that.

    He had a twice disclocated and a crash at 40mph. He is also in the lead. Him riding wheels is exactly what he should be doing. And you know that.

    I'm confused. If he crashed at 40mph why is there no sign of any road rash on him at all? I assumed he must have virtually avoided the crash but taken a low speed tumble onto his shoulder. I've done that and it often hurts shoulders more than a high speed fall.

    It's obviously a misprint. FF meant 4mph, which is only a slight exaggeration from the actual speed of his tumble, which was a reported 5kph. :wink:
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    I have no problem with riders bluffing, double bluffing, triple bluffing, feigning injury, feigning being uninjured - whatever. Just make it look good FFS!

    CFIvt5-UsAAxwsc.jpg

    That's what I was talking about with the hand on the head thing!
    Correlation is not causation.
  • fleshtuxedo
    fleshtuxedo Posts: 1,858
    It was cringey watching the live coverage and the constant references to a dislocated shoulder. He rode out of the saddle more than anyone else (as he always does), was constantly using either hand without preference to faff with his helmet and waterproof and just obviously riding as normal. An embarrassing charade. Can we just get on with the race please?
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    RichN95 wrote:
    LeePaton wrote:
    I hope not picked C*ntador PTP but thats currently how i feel. Hope i get double bluffed secretly and The one armed wonder runs away with it.

    Never pick the riders you actually want to win for PTP. This is the one thing I am superstitious about. Utter gubbins of course, but...
    I do that too. It's not so much the superstition as much as evening out the disappointment and joy.

    Yes, that evening out is probably also part of it.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    The_Boy wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Porte's not intending to drop him. He's intending to thump him in the time trial.

    Yes because he doesn't know what panache is and knows that 57kg climbers typically can put minutes into far heavier riders with solid TT palmares.

    Is it an award like the Oscars?

    Close. It's a tasty beverage

    saint-omer-panache-a-french-shandy-drink-sold-in-morrisons-supermarket-DPMTXH.jpg

    Ha ha! Someone else found the 'panache' images! Did you get a load of women in bras when you first did an image search? I had to click on the 'drink' option to see these ones.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
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    Looks like Eisel was using a K8-S today, Pinarello's Roubaix, suspension bike.