BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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Realistically, Labour aren't going to unwind Brexit anytime soon. I don't think unwinding Brexit to fix the situation in NI will be seen as a vote winner.
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Agreed
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Don't go upsetting Brian like that.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
They're certainly not unwinding the Protocol/Windsor Framework
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Meh. I suspect the best chance of seeing softening to Brexit will be if a sensible wing of Tories is able to form and take back control of the party. Depending on the scale of defeat in the next GE I don't think this is entirely impossible, but I do see it as pretty unlikely.
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I'm not getting my hopes up too much, but will see if Starmer starts making pragmatic, apparently boring technical changes in various areas that blunt the edges of Brexit... if they are there for ten years, and in that time improved and less frictiony trade with the EU can be shown to be beneficial to the UK economy... well, then their second term could be interesting to watch.
Not holding my breath though.
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The UK is currently paying a high cost for the right to diverge in areas they've no interest in diverging in. That's even before actually implementing the new border model
Sensible Labour policy would start to reverse that by aligning in those areas
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Yeah, that's the kind of thing I mean. Starmer being rather bland and boring should be able to make these 'technical adjustments' sound quite bland and boring too.
As I've mentioned before, the 'EU as a cause of all the UK's woes' trigger has now been pulled, and if there's one plus of Brexit it is that they've shown that isn't true, and it can't be pulled again. No-one is coming to the UK's aid after its self-inflicted wound. If the EU is canny, it'll be like a parent who warned the stroppy teenager who threatened to leave home and did so, later coming back after realising that it was actually less bad being told to tidy their room up than having to fend for themselves.
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Weird mood among the NI political class today.
There's a sense that the NI Assembly is never coming back
Around 1 in 10 of the population will be on strike tomorrow.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Apparently there's to be a DUP meeting today
Speculation Donaldson will push the party to go back into Stormont and risk the split in his party having gained nothing re the Windsor Framework
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Brexit is nearly done
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Lol
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Have they considered printing all the paperwork on orange paper?
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
It's going back to the Paragraph 50 the DUP forced May to insert into the Joint Report - which resulted in the backstop
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
The logic of binning off free movement of people goods and services for Brexit was always going to be broken on the rock of Northern Ireland.
The question is whether Westminster/English care enough about it or:
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Just a personal opinion but I think Brexit was voted in mostly by Little Englanders who would be quite happy to see the back of N.I. and Scotland. Probably view Wales as simply an English region.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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Wales had an above average Leave vote, much to my shame, so doubt that last point.
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Sadly I think both can be equally true.
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I'm sure that somewhere in the last 2093 pages we've been over all this before.
The genius of the Leave campaign was to realise that there were a number of different resentments which they could tap into under the banner of "Everything will be better if we leave", whether they were appealing to Little Englanders, Little Cornishers, fishermen, farmers, working class white, racists/xenophobes, etc. They sold the idea of "What have you got to lose?" to all those disparate interests, and now we've found out.
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Still stuck here
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Quelle surprise!
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Oh dear, there's another "nailed on" deal down the swanny. Some will be surprised, others not.
It's for the best but those Brexit benefits just keep dwindling.
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Trouble at t'mill
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Well, if the UK really did walk away because of the hormones-in-beef question, that rules out a US deal too in effect.
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Can't be true as all those reasons/predictions were just Project Fear. Rule Britannia....
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Rule Britannia, Britannia waives the rules...
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I thought all these trade deals with far away countries were meant to be have a negligible positive effect on UK trade, so if one of them has the talks halted, it can't really make any difference?
You can't have your cake and eat it...
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
What's the point of having cake that you can't eat?
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Canada was a roll over deal that we already had.
In tems of size and distance Canada is definitely worth keeping
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