BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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Appeal court in Belfast rejects Unionist claims against Protocol
Namely
The Protocol doesn't repeal the Acts of Union, it subjugates it
The SoS could set aside the normal consent rules because Parliament said so
The consent principle re NIs place in the UK doesn't cover the Protocol
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Steve Baker, ERG, Conservative Party MP, arguing that Brexit, contrary to opinions on here, isn't done
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
To me it feels like a desperate attempt to stay relevant.tailwindhome said:Steve Baker, ERG, Conservative Party MP, arguing that Brexit, contrary to opinions on here, isn't done
He seems to be spouting quite contrarian stuff all over the place.
I think in the mind of the average voter, it is done.
As discussed on here and to his point, there’s lots to still be agreed but I think it will be very hard to keep Brexit at the forefront of vote winning topics. Minutiae won’t win votes.0 -
I thought it was generally accepted on here that he is an idiot who is always wrong?tailwindhome said:Steve Baker, ERG, Conservative Party MP, arguing that Brexit, contrary to opinions on here, isn't done
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
They won the vote by linking things to Brexit that had nothing to do with the EU, so why not believe it will work again?morstar said:
To me it feels like a desperate attempt to stay relevant.tailwindhome said:Steve Baker, ERG, Conservative Party MP, arguing that Brexit, contrary to opinions on here, isn't done
He seems to be spouting quite contrarian stuff all over the place.
I think in the mind of the average voter, it is done.
As discussed on here and to his point, there’s lots to still be agreed but I think it will be very hard to keep Brexit at the forefront of vote winning topics. Minutiae won’t win votes.
Most people will not want to admit that Brexit was an act of stupidity so will want to believe that the problem is that it has not been done properly0 -
We are agreed on what they’re trying to do.surrey_commuter said:
They won the vote by linking things to Brexit that had nothing to do with the EU, so why not believe it will work again?morstar said:
To me it feels like a desperate attempt to stay relevant.tailwindhome said:Steve Baker, ERG, Conservative Party MP, arguing that Brexit, contrary to opinions on here, isn't done
He seems to be spouting quite contrarian stuff all over the place.
I think in the mind of the average voter, it is done.
As discussed on here and to his point, there’s lots to still be agreed but I think it will be very hard to keep Brexit at the forefront of vote winning topics. Minutiae won’t win votes.
Most people will not want to admit that Brexit was an act of stupidity so will want to believe that the problem is that it has not been done properly
I don’t think it will succeed. But I stand to be corrected.0 -
Interesting to see what pressure he can put on the PMStevo_666 said:
I thought it was g9enerally accepted on here that he is an idiot who is always wrong?tailwindhome said:Steve Baker, ERG, Conservative Party MP, arguing that Brexit, contrary to opinions on here, isn't done
Clearly he's a man who believed the PM made him promises which aren't being delivered upon.
Today's issue for those who didn't click through the link (let's face it, everyone) was amendments to replace UK with GB in customs legislation. Seen as symbolic of the UK Gov throwing in the towel over the Protocol
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Update
Amendment pulled. Everyone shocked to discover it was even there and Liz Truss going to get to the bottom of this.
😆“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
A treasury amendment
🤣“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
This position of Steve Baker's that the PM made promises to the ERG regarding the 'temporary' nature of the Protocol, which allowed him to become PM, and which in turn allowed the ERG to make "promises to Northern Irish MPs" may not go away quietly“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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So this concept of lying having consequences…tailwindhome said:This position of Steve Baker's that the PM made promises to the ERG regarding the 'temporary' nature of the Protocol, which allowed him to become PM, and which in turn allowed the ERG to make "promises to Northern Irish MPs" may not go away quietly
Hmmmm, Whodathunkit?0 -
Although, they knew what they were voting for because the remain side told them. Or something like that.morstar said:
So this concept of lying having consequences…tailwindhome said:This position of Steve Baker's that the PM made promises to the ERG regarding the 'temporary' nature of the Protocol, which allowed him to become PM, and which in turn allowed the ERG to make "promises to Northern Irish MPs" may not go away quietly
Hmmmm, Whodathunkit?0 -
Genuine question- after knowing him for decades why did they trust him?tailwindhome said:This position of Steve Baker's that the PM made promises to the ERG regarding the 'temporary' nature of the Protocol, which allowed him to become PM, and which in turn allowed the ERG to make "promises to Northern Irish MPs" may not go away quietly
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I mean more the fool Steve Baker for believing a word of these 'promises' from a compulsive and proven liar.tailwindhome said:This position of Steve Baker's that the PM made promises to the ERG regarding the 'temporary' nature of the Protocol, which allowed him to become PM, and which in turn allowed the ERG to make "promises to Northern Irish MPs" may not go away quietly
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Buyer's remorse“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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Some irony in wanting a second form of election if the first doesn’t get the right outcome.briantrumpet said:Wrecker Frost is still at it:
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best summary of the "speech" I've seen so far...
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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are you saying that no promises were made and he did not understand what he wa backingtailwindhome said:Buyer's remorse
Reads like a Putin speech to justify invading Ukraine.ddraver said:best summary of the "speech" I've seen so far...
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Also reads like the Conservative and Unionist Party is in favour of devolution.surrey_commuter said:
Reads like a Putin speech to justify invading Ukraine.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Not convinced it's a brexit issue but seems like the least worst thread for it
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/p-o-ferries-dover-calais-latest-news-suspended-b2037991.html
WT Actual F ???
Note does not affect the French and Dutch employeesWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Fairly sure they must be breaking some employment rules. Certainly redundancy.
Sacking without notice and instant replacements?
Don’t think I’ll use them again.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
They are losing a 100million a year so you might not have a choice going forwards. I am sure the union can save them though.pblakeney said:Fairly sure they must be breaking some employment rules. Certainly redundancy.
Sacking without notice and instant replacements?
Don’t think I’ll use them again.0 -
John being supportive of replacing British workers with foreigners? Strange days.
Sure that’ll save £100m.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
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I am not supporting it. Maybe if there was a consumer reaction they would not do these things. It did not take coca cola long to realise that losing their European and US customer base to protect russian Jobs was not worth it.pblakeney said:John being supportive of replacing British workers with foreigners? Strange days.
Sure that’ll save £100m.
Ferries are critical UK infrastructure and as such I am often dismayed at the lack of care and attention within government.0 -
'I'm going to the Supreme Court' being a cheery positive spin on - I've already lost in the High Court & Appeal Court.ddraver said:“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
