BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴

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  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078

    If 4 million Brexiteers have died, I apologize for any hurt caused.

    When are the Brexiters going to apologise for this shit show?
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436

    If 4 million Brexiteers have died, I apologize for any hurt caused.

    Posted this in the wrong thread didn't I

    See Royals Thread for context
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    ddraver said:
    Two questions;
    Is that the bouncy bridge? if so have never seen that angle before

    What is the downside to £1trn of assets moving out of the UK?
    The jobs of the people who are responsible for those assets move with it.
    I get that, but we have already counted those jobs. Half of our annual GDP leaving sounds bad but I wondered what the practical consequences are.
    Not that much. All the executed trades on behalf of those assets happen somewhere else etc.

    For context, the entire asset management industry (globally) manages c.$110 trillion.

    It's a 6th of blackrock's AUM, for example.
    thank you
    Sorry it's a 9th of BlackRock's AUM.

    I would say that in the context of the City of London, $1trillion is still an awful lot and thousands of (very well paid) jobs will be lost as a result.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    In recent polling in NI

    48% want to scrap the protocol (v 46% to keep it)

    however

    56% want their MLAs to vote to stay in the EU single market in 3 years time.

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    Arlene Foster under pressure to go





    The NI Protocol a major factor

    Not hardline enough for her party anymore either

    Broke ranks with her party to abstain on a vote banning 'Conversion Therapy' as a treatment for homosexuality

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463

    Arlene Foster under pressure to go





    The NI Protocol a major factor

    Not hardline enough for her party anymore either

    Broke ranks with her party to abstain on a vote banning 'Conversion Therapy' as a treatment for homosexuality

    Wouldn't that make her more hardline rather than less?
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    Pross said:

    Arlene Foster under pressure to go





    The NI Protocol a major factor

    Not hardline enough for her party anymore either

    Broke ranks with her party to abstain on a vote banning 'Conversion Therapy' as a treatment for homosexuality

    Wouldn't that make her more hardline rather than less?
    Her party voted against the motion

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    Pross said:

    Arlene Foster under pressure to go





    The NI Protocol a major factor

    Not hardline enough for her party anymore either

    Broke ranks with her party to abstain on a vote banning 'Conversion Therapy' as a treatment for homosexuality

    Wouldn't that make her more hardline rather than less?
    No. Most DUP members voted against the ban.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    jaysus...

    Had a similar reaction to someone on twitter raging that "46% of Republican Voters though Derek Chauvin shouldn't have been convicted"

    Bad....but also quite good. I'd not have been surprised if it had been way higher.
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    France talking tough on Brexit again. Unless UK does something the EU shouldn't give it something it is not going to anyway.

    "The United Kingdom is expecting quite a few authorisations from us for financial services. We won't give any for as long as we don't have guarantees on fishing and other issues,"

  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    If Foster goes, the DUP will need to nominate a First Minister
    If they refuse to nominate a First Minister the Executive collapses
    If the Executive collapses it could lead to an election
    The DUP may see this as unionism's best chance at regaining a majority to vote down the Protocol

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    Bbbreaking Bbbrexit News - France is still France! Brexit hasn't changed that much... actually!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916

    If Foster goes, the DUP will need to nominate a First Minister
    If they refuse to nominate a First Minister the Executive collapses
    If the Executive collapses it could lead to an election
    The DUP may see this as unionism's best chance at regaining a majority to vote down the Protocol

    Are Alliance still supporting it?
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436

    If Foster goes, the DUP will need to nominate a First Minister
    If they refuse to nominate a First Minister the Executive collapses
    If the Executive collapses it could lead to an election
    The DUP may see this as unionism's best chance at regaining a majority to vote down the Protocol

    Are Alliance still supporting it?
    They're trying to thread a difficult path of supporting it in absence of alternatives but recognising it needs fixed.

    Question is how will this path effect their vote.

    In polling done in Jan Alliance were up a touch but the DUP had lost ground to the more hard line TUV.. This prompting a harder anti Protocol stance from the DUP

    The interesting polling last week was 48% to 46% in favour of scrapping the Protocol with 56% wanting their MLA to vote to stay in the Single Market.....
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463

    Pross said:

    Arlene Foster under pressure to go





    The NI Protocol a major factor

    Not hardline enough for her party anymore either

    Broke ranks with her party to abstain on a vote banning 'Conversion Therapy' as a treatment for homosexuality

    Wouldn't that make her more hardline rather than less?
    Her party voted against the motion

    Ah right, that makes sense. I thought for a second they may have moved into the 21st Century
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,350
    Pross said:

    Pross said:

    Arlene Foster under pressure to go





    The NI Protocol a major factor

    Not hardline enough for her party anymore either

    Broke ranks with her party to abstain on a vote banning 'Conversion Therapy' as a treatment for homosexuality

    Wouldn't that make her more hardline rather than less?
    Her party voted against the motion

    Ah right, that makes sense. I thought for a second they may have moved into the 21st Century

    It would be nice even if they got to the 20th century first.
  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    I just hope Jim Allistair and the TUV get nowhere near power.

    TWH, I only have a passing knowledge of NI politics but are the UUP completely gone as an electoral force now?

    I was really hoping there might be an end in sight for green and orange politics, and that the Alliance would get a much stronger foothold.
  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    Arlene Foster has gone. Huge ramifications.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    This is all going swimmingly.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,349

    Arlene Foster has gone. Huge ramifications.

    she took johnson's bribe to sell out northern ireland

    johnson then shafted them both without a qualm

    they deserve each other
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  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    sungod said:

    Arlene Foster has gone. Huge ramifications.

    she took johnson's bribe to sell out northern ireland

    johnson then shafted them both without a qualm

    they deserve each other
    That as may be but the fact that a more hardliner is likely to get the job is bad for the peace and prosperity of NI.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Does this solve the issue of the green energy scandal or is that resolved already?

    In NI political terms is she seen as a nutter or a voice of reason?
  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,349

    sungod said:

    Arlene Foster has gone. Huge ramifications.

    she took johnson's bribe to sell out northern ireland

    johnson then shafted them both without a qualm

    they deserve each other
    That as may be but the fact that a more hardliner is likely to get the job is bad for the peace and prosperity of NI.
    people can always stop voting for them
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  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498

    Does this solve the issue of the green energy scandal or is that resolved already?

    In NI political terms is she seen as a nutter or a voice of reason?

    Equidistant between moderate and extreme I would say. Edwin Poots, the favourite to get the job has some interesting views......
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    for those of us who don't have the will the read all 21 pages can you give a precis of what should be bothering us?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited April 2021

    for those of us who don't have the will the read all 21 pages can you give a precis of what should be bothering us?
    Significant divergence on existing EU rules around smaller banks & building societies.

    i.e. they are chosing to move further away from the EU rules so any likelihood of equivalence is significantly reduced.

    Depending on your perspective you're liberating parts of the system from restrictive rules and being 'competitive' or they're moving the dial in the reckless direction.
  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,349

    for those of us who don't have the will the read all 21 pages can you give a precis of what should be bothering us?
    Significant divergence on existing EU rules around smaller banks & building societies.

    i.e. they are chosing to move further away from the EU rules so any likelihood of equivalence is significantly reduced.

    Depending on your perspective you're liberating parts of the system from restrictive rules and being 'competitive' or they're moving the dial in the reckless direction.
    what could possibly go wrong
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    No deal with Norway for fish this year.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56932551.amp