BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴

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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    edited December 2020
    Can believe...



    Johnson needs something to claim victory, that would have done...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,431
    ddraver said:

    Can believe...



    Johnson needs something to claim victory, that would have done...

    Another unbiased tweet...
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,431
    ddraver said:



    Its rubbish right now being a lowly cleaner at the Honda* Factory so we re going to make it even more rubbish by closing the factory!!!

    what..?

    (*insert any example here)

    Swings and roundabouts...
    https://sunderlandecho.com/business/new-high-tech-factory-bring-8000-jobs-north-east-biggest-regional-investment-nissan-3064300
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Deep down I still think we’re being softened up for a weak deal.

    Any deal is better than no deal right now.

    After all, these things will be renegotiated forever

    At the moment we are negotiating down on what we already have, if they let us walk we will see what we are missing and negotiate up.

    There is an article in this week’s Economist about the difficulties facing companies who use chemicals it is an example of how unexpected bad things will happen to many parts of the economy which know nothing other than the SM.
    Yes, if it does come to a full on crash out then lots of deals will be done on the quiet when the British press are no longer looking in the months ahead in the new year.
    WTO will restrict the scope of those deals, what you offer to one country you have to offer to all.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Test & trace this year is 49x the size of the fishing industry’s contribution.

    Nice to see the press want to get the navy out for them but not say, services.

  • Very sad that in the end Brexit turned out to be just the turd we feared...

    I have the feeling the lack of a deal is the beginning of a decade of stagnation, high unemployment and inevitable austerity...

    The only meagre consolation is that those who voted for it are the ones who are going to take the biggest hit.

    left the forum March 2023
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,610

    Very sad that in the end Brexit turned out to be just the censored we feared...

    I have the feeling the lack of a deal is the beginning of a decade of stagnation, high unemployment and inevitable austerity...

    The only meagre consolation is that those who voted for it are the ones who are going to take the biggest hit.

    The tories will only implement Austerity when they can pin the need for it on Labour. They will find the magic money tree when it comes to trying to stem the Brexit shitshow
  • The EU have always said we cannot have a deal as 'good' as membership. Well the fact that using their rules a simple FTA is better than what we had from membership demonstrates exactly why we voted to leave, as we already had a really bad deal.

    We'll get an FTA eventually, but we'll have to do it via WTO first before the EU realise their stupid positioning. They need the benefits of free trade with us more than ever as they will now be competing with the ROTW.
  • The EU have always said we cannot have a deal as 'good' as membership. Well the fact that using their rules a simple FTA is better than what we had from membership demonstrates exactly why we voted to leave, as we already had a really bad deal.

    We'll get an FTA eventually, but we'll have to do it via WTO first before the EU realise their stupid positioning. They need the benefits of free trade with us more than ever as they will now be competing with the ROTW.

    How is the deal they offered not "as good as membership"?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Mate why are you replying?
  • Bored
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    Bored

    If you’re bored find 10 genuinely good things about either remaining Brexit option.

    That’ll keep you busy.
  • The EU have always said we cannot have a deal as 'good' as membership. Well the fact that using their rules a simple FTA is better than what we had from membership demonstrates exactly why we voted to leave, as we already had a really bad deal.

    We'll get an FTA eventually, but we'll have to do it via WTO first before the EU realise their stupid positioning. They need the benefits of free trade with us more than ever as they will now be competing with the ROTW.

    How is the deal they offered not "as good as membership"?
    All we want is a free trade deal. The EU have overpriced SM membership in the negotiations. They could have protected the SM racket by being sensible but now the UK will expose just what a poor deal the SM is to the richer states.

    Covid and all the financial pressures this brings will just speed up the process of exposing it. :smile:
  • The EU have always said we cannot have a deal as 'good' as membership. Well the fact that using their rules a simple FTA is better than what we had from membership demonstrates exactly why we voted to leave, as we already had a really bad deal.

    We'll get an FTA eventually, but we'll have to do it via WTO first before the EU realise their stupid positioning. They need the benefits of free trade with us more than ever as they will now be competing with the ROTW.

    How is the deal they offered not "as good as membership"?
    All we want is a free trade deal. The EU have overpriced SM membership in the negotiations. They could have protected the SM racket by being sensible but now the UK will expose just what a poor deal the SM is to the richer states.

    Covid and all the financial pressures this brings will just speed up the process of exposing it. :smile:
    Can you answer the question?
  • The EU have always said we cannot have a deal as 'good' as membership. Well the fact that using their rules a simple FTA is better than what we had from membership demonstrates exactly why we voted to leave, as we already had a really bad deal.

    We'll get an FTA eventually, but we'll have to do it via WTO first before the EU realise their stupid positioning. They need the benefits of free trade with us more than ever as they will now be competing with the ROTW.

    How is the deal they offered not "as good as membership"?
    All we want is a free trade deal. The EU have overpriced SM membership in the negotiations. They could have protected the SM racket by being sensible but now the UK will expose just what a poor deal the SM is to the richer states.

    Covid and all the financial pressures this brings will just speed up the process of exposing it. :smile:
    Can you answer the question?
    I did!

    I'm not being dragged down your rabbit hole where you are trying to re-run the referendum

    Our EU membership was a terrible deal.
  • Bored

    If you’re bored find 10 genuinely good things about either remaining Brexit option.

    That’ll keep you busy.
    It allows the UK to give more subsidy to Britishvolt? I don't know if that's true.

    Falling pound makes exports more competitive.

    I like herring.


  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Anyone know the rules on standard services firms dealing with continental firms when no deal happens?

    I have a bevvy of pitches in Jan with Dutch firms.
  • Bored

    If you’re bored find 10 genuinely good things about either remaining Brexit option.

    That’ll keep you busy.
    It allows the UK to give more subsidy to Britishvolt? I don't know if that's true.

    Falling pound makes exports more competitive.

    I like herring.


    Market turmoil is good for hedgies
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,610

    Bored

    If you’re bored find 10 genuinely good things about either remaining Brexit option.

    That’ll keep you busy.
    It allows the UK to give more subsidy to Britishvolt? I don't know if that's true.

    Falling pound makes exports more competitive.

    I like herring.


    Market turmoil is good for hedgies
    Boom time for forgotten British seaside towns
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    Bored

    If you’re bored find 10 genuinely good things about either remaining Brexit option.

    That’ll keep you busy.
    It allows the UK to give more subsidy to Britishvolt? I don't know if that's true.

    Falling pound makes exports more competitive.

    I like herring.


    Market turmoil is good for hedgies
    Hahaha because ‘08 worked out so well for so many of them!
  • Jezyboy said:

    Bored

    If you’re bored find 10 genuinely good things about either remaining Brexit option.

    That’ll keep you busy.
    It allows the UK to give more subsidy to Britishvolt? I don't know if that's true.

    Falling pound makes exports more competitive.

    I like herring.


    Market turmoil is good for hedgies
    Boom time for forgotten British seaside towns
    Fewer planes = less air pollution?
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,333

    Jezyboy said:

    Bored

    If you’re bored find 10 genuinely good things about either remaining Brexit option.

    That’ll keep you busy.
    It allows the UK to give more subsidy to Britishvolt? I don't know if that's true.

    Falling pound makes exports more competitive.

    I like herring.


    Market turmoil is good for hedgies
    Boom time for forgotten British seaside towns
    Fewer planes = less air pollution?
    But, but, but, no need for a blue passport.
    Brexit, what is it good for?...
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Anyone know the rules on standard services firms dealing with continental firms when no deal happens?

    I have a bevvy of pitches in Jan with Dutch firms.

    Anyone know the rules on standard services firms dealing with continental firms when no deal happens?

    I have a bevvy of pitches in Jan with Dutch firms.

    They will only apply to “professional” services so you will be fine
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited December 2020
    Ugh just found out a super bright pole (neuroscientist) who was great fun in my old cycling club left the U.K. in October to return to the EU. ☹️

    Really sorry to see her go.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,924

    Anyone know the rules on standard services firms dealing with continental firms when no deal happens?

    I have a bevvy of pitches in Jan with Dutch firms.

    If you stay in the UK, then you are working in the UK. In financial services you can't solicit business in the EU, but you can take it if it comes your way.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    Anyone know the rules on standard services firms dealing with continental firms when no deal happens?

    I have a bevvy of pitches in Jan with Dutch firms.

    If you stay in the UK, then you are working in the UK. In financial services you can't solicit business in the EU, but you can take it if it comes your way.
    No I mean for my line of work - recruitment - is there a barrier for a Dutch firm using a British firm for their hiring?
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,431

    Anyone know the rules on standard services firms dealing with continental firms when no deal happens?

    I have a bevvy of pitches in Jan with Dutch firms.

    SC has already answered: surprised you don't know this, given it is directly related to your job. Seems there are some advantages to not being a professional ;)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666 said:

    Anyone know the rules on standard services firms dealing with continental firms when no deal happens?

    I have a bevvy of pitches in Jan with Dutch firms.

    SC has already answered: surprised you don't know this, given it is directly related to your job. Seems there are some advantages to not being a professional ;)
    Lol - I was just being rude