BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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I thought you might have lowered it a bit by now, but you stayed true to May's deal until the end, so there is precedent.tailwindhome said:90%
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Over 4yrs after the vote and a few weeks before the crucial deadline and he still doesn't even understand the rules of the game he is playing.0
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TheBigBean said:
I thought you might have lowered it a bit by now, but you stayed true to May's deal until the end, so there is precedent.tailwindhome said:90%
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/brexit-deal-withdrawal-agreementTheBigBean said:
I thought you might have lowered it a bit by now, but you stayed true to May's deal until the end, so there is precedent.tailwindhome said:90%
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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Deal will be announced between 11am and 2pm (UK time) on Monday 14th Dec
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
It's just the Swedish national anthem play.rick_chasey said:0 -
Workings?tailwindhome said:Deal will be announced between 11am and 2pm (UK time) on Monday 14th Dec
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I don’t know what this meansTheBigBean said:
It's just the Swedish national anthem play.rick_chasey said:0 -
If you like european wine, now is a good time to buy. Before the rush.0
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The same place Rick finds them?TheBigBean said:
Where do you find all these disingenuous posters?ddraver said:"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Can you explain as I don’t seem to understand anything tonightdarkhairedlord said:If you like european wine, now is a good time to buy. Before the rush.
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Boris’s blurting and dishonesty have obviously wound up the EU but do we think this affected the outcome at all?0
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On account of wholesalers have got stock tied and cant get it here. Not enough lorries, containers stuck everywhere and brexit fears.surrey_commuter said:
Can you explain as I don’t seem to understand anything tonightdarkhairedlord said:If you like european wine, now is a good time to buy. Before the rush.
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No. See Yanis Varoufakis and the Swedish national anthem. The main point is that it doesn't matter what is said or done, you will be ignored, and presented with something else as take it or leave it.surrey_commuter said:Boris’s blurting and dishonesty have obviously wound up the EU but do we think this affected the outcome at all?
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No it has not much to the annoyance of the Boris bashers. Trade deals don't rise or fall on the face of one person. They have mainly been dealing with Frost and to my mind he has been pretty level headed and measured in his conduct. If anything Barnier has been the more provocative negotiator.surrey_commuter said:Boris’s blurting and dishonesty have obviously wound up the EU but do we think this affected the outcome at all?
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But...surrey_commuter said:Boris’s blurting and dishonesty have obviously wound up the EU but do we think this affected the outcome at all?
(I don't know what to think tonight...)We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Possibly one of the reasons for EU unpopularity?TheBigBean said:
No. See Yanis Varoufakis and the Swedish national anthem. The main point is that it doesn't matter what is said or done, you will be ignored, and presented with something else as take it or leave it.surrey_commuter said:Boris’s blurting and dishonesty have obviously wound up the EU but do we think this affected the outcome at all?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
Yes, but Varoufakis' point still stands. If you are going to say you're walking out with no deal if the deal is unconscionable, you've got to actually believe it. Tsipras never did. I'm not convinced Johnson does.Stevo_666 said:
Possibly one of the reasons for EU unpopularity?TheBigBean said:
No. See Yanis Varoufakis and the Swedish national anthem. The main point is that it doesn't matter what is said or done, you will be ignored, and presented with something else as take it or leave it.surrey_commuter said:Boris’s blurting and dishonesty have obviously wound up the EU but do we think this affected the outcome at all?
Could be wrong.0 -
I'm not sure. Does the blurting and dishonesty include the internal markets bill? I think that had an effect on how much faith they might have in the UK.john80 said:
No it has not much to the annoyance of the Boris bashers. Trade deals don't rise or fall on the face of one person. They have mainly been dealing with Frost and to my mind he has been pretty level headed and measured in his conduct. If anything Barnier has been the more provocative negotiator.surrey_commuter said:Boris’s blurting and dishonesty have obviously wound up the EU but do we think this affected the outcome at all?
His talk, no. They know him as well as the rest of us, and know he's not there forever.0 -
I suspect they haven't helped. But it's not like a more measured, honest character as PM would be able to convince the EU to split the SM up, which, is really what we are aiming for here.surrey_commuter said:Boris’s blurting and dishonesty have obviously wound up the EU but do we think this affected the outcome at all?
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We'll find out in the next 2 days. I think he is prepared to do it.kingstongraham said:
Yes, but Varoufakis' point still stands. If you are going to say you're walking out with no deal if the deal is unconscionable, you've got to actually believe it. Tsipras never did. I'm not convinced Johnson does.Stevo_666 said:
Possibly one of the reasons for EU unpopularity?TheBigBean said:
No. See Yanis Varoufakis and the Swedish national anthem. The main point is that it doesn't matter what is said or done, you will be ignored, and presented with something else as take it or leave it.surrey_commuter said:Boris’s blurting and dishonesty have obviously wound up the EU but do we think this affected the outcome at all?
Could be wrong."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
How would anyone do that?Jezyboy said:
I suspect they haven't helped. But it's not like a more measured, honest character as PM would be able to convince the EU to split the SM up, which, is really what we are aiming for here.surrey_commuter said:Boris’s blurting and dishonesty have obviously wound up the EU but do we think this affected the outcome at all?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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Hasn't Priti commandeered them already?briantrumpet said:Just FFS. Cod wars on the menu.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/dec/11/four-navy-ships-to-help-protect-uk-waters-in-case-of-no-deal-brexit
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Deep down I still think we’re being softened up for a weak deal.
Any deal is better than no deal right now.
After all, these things will be renegotiated forever0 -
Even if it is, there's one competence I'd give this rabble, and that's to screw even this up.rick_chasey said:Deep down I still think we’re being softened up for a weak deal.
Any deal is better than no deal right now.
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At the moment we are negotiating down on what we already have, if they let us walk we will see what we are missing and negotiate up.rick_chasey said:Deep down I still think we’re being softened up for a weak deal.
Any deal is better than no deal right now.
After all, these things will be renegotiated forever
There is an article in this week’s Economist about the difficulties facing companies who use chemicals it is an example of how unexpected bad things will happen to many parts of the economy which know nothing other than the SM.0 -
Yes, if it does come to a full on crash out then lots of deals will be done on the quiet when the British press are no longer looking in the months ahead in the new year.surrey_commuter said:
At the moment we are negotiating down on what we already have, if they let us walk we will see what we are missing and negotiate up.rick_chasey said:Deep down I still think we’re being softened up for a weak deal.
Any deal is better than no deal right now.
After all, these things will be renegotiated forever
There is an article in this week’s Economist about the difficulties facing companies who use chemicals it is an example of how unexpected bad things will happen to many parts of the economy which know nothing other than the SM.0