BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴

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  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    So the EU wants to support Spain in applying what amounts to economic sanctions in its bid to subjugate a territory contrary to inhabitants wishes? All in the name of EU unity.
    Nothing to get in the way of the project, no?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Club supports its members vs non-members shocker.

  • It's certainly a quick start to the difficult road ahead to separation. The EU can't look a walkover if they want to remain a peaceful union. It will be interesting to see how this develops with regards the views of Gibraltar's population and the trade pressure the EU are prepared to apply.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328
    In simple terms Gibraltar want a deal similar to N.I.
    Will they get it?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916

    EU backing Spain's claim to Gibraltar in the next phase of negotiations with Brexit.

    Boris Johnson will be presented with the choice of reaching agreement with the Spaniards about Gibraltar’s future or exposing its citizens to economic peril by pushing it outside any EU-UK trade deal.

    https://theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/01/brexit-trade-talks-eu-to-back-spain-over-gibraltar-claims
    It's likely Gibraltar would choose an economic siege over over any involvement from Spain in the future.
  • The remoaners are not going to like this :D

    An Italian university is opening a campus in the UK for around 250 students, the majority of which will be Italian or French.


    If we were only listening to the remoaners this would never happen as there is not a chance that the UK was going to get foreign investment following Brexit.

    More evidence that Project Fear that remoaners were pushing is laughable.
  • The remoaners are not going to like this :D

    An Italian university is opening a campus in the UK for around 250 students, the majority of which will be Italian or French.


    If we were only listening to the remoaners this would never happen as there is not a chance that the UK was going to get foreign investment following Brexit.

    More evidence that Project Fear that remoaners were pushing is laughable.

    For anybody who does not know you I think this post nicely captures how much you don’t realise how much that you don’t understand.
  • Club supports its members vs non-members shocker.


    Or invents a problem to trade away at a later date
  • Stevo_666 said:

    Ben6899 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    And some good advice from one of the only centre leftie winners in living memory:-
    Even Tony Blair, the arch-enemy of Brexit, called on fellow Remainers to “make the best” of Brexit and “approach it with determined optimism, not looking over our shoulders in unrequited longing for what was”.

    ;)

    That's all well and good, but I'll probably need a visa to visit my extended family.

    Still at least I can afford it - maybe not the same to be said for those who holiday in Benidorm.
    https://schengenvisainfo.com/etias/

    No VISA. European travel authorisation, costs €7 and valid for 3 years. Not exactly onerous.
    Stevo_666 said:

    Ben6899 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    And some good advice from one of the only centre leftie winners in living memory:-
    Even Tony Blair, the arch-enemy of Brexit, called on fellow Remainers to “make the best” of Brexit and “approach it with determined optimism, not looking over our shoulders in unrequited longing for what was”.

    ;)

    That's all well and good, but I'll probably need a visa to visit my extended family.

    Still at least I can afford it - maybe not the same to be said for those who holiday in Benidorm.
    https://schengenvisainfo.com/etias/

    No VISA. European travel authorisation, costs €7 and valid for 3 years. Not exactly onerous.
    It feels like a metaphor for Brexit - not as good as before in exchange for more effort and cost for no discernible benefit
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,408

    Stevo_666 said:

    Ben6899 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    And some good advice from one of the only centre leftie winners in living memory:-
    Even Tony Blair, the arch-enemy of Brexit, called on fellow Remainers to “make the best” of Brexit and “approach it with determined optimism, not looking over our shoulders in unrequited longing for what was”.

    ;)

    That's all well and good, but I'll probably need a visa to visit my extended family.

    Still at least I can afford it - maybe not the same to be said for those who holiday in Benidorm.
    https://schengenvisainfo.com/etias/

    No VISA. European travel authorisation, costs €7 and valid for 3 years. Not exactly onerous.
    Stevo_666 said:

    Ben6899 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    And some good advice from one of the only centre leftie winners in living memory:-
    Even Tony Blair, the arch-enemy of Brexit, called on fellow Remainers to “make the best” of Brexit and “approach it with determined optimism, not looking over our shoulders in unrequited longing for what was”.

    ;)

    That's all well and good, but I'll probably need a visa to visit my extended family.

    Still at least I can afford it - maybe not the same to be said for those who holiday in Benidorm.
    https://schengenvisainfo.com/etias/

    No VISA. European travel authorisation, costs €7 and valid for 3 years. Not exactly onerous.
    It feels like a metaphor for Brexit - not as good as before in exchange for more effort and cost for no discernible benefit
    Or maybe that after all the whingeing and apocalyptic predictions, most of us probably won't notice anything meterially different in our daily lives?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,408

    The remoaners are not going to like this :D

    An Italian university is opening a campus in the UK for around 250 students, the majority of which will be Italian or French.


    If we were only listening to the remoaners this would never happen as there is not a chance that the UK was going to get foreign investment following Brexit.

    More evidence that Project Fear that remoaners were pushing is laughable.

    For anybody who does not know you I think this post nicely captures how much you don’t realise how much that you don’t understand.
    Why don't you explain what/why he doesn't understand, rather than just being condescending?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,408

    It's certainly a quick start to the difficult road ahead to separation. The EU can't look a walkover if they want to remain a peaceful union. It will be interesting to see how this develops with regards the views of Gibraltar's population and the trade pressure the EU are prepared to apply.

    On the other hand, good to see Boris playing hardball with the Eurocrats from the start. This will be interesting.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,408
    edited February 2020

    Tangential - after knowing someone who was behind research of a Guardian front page story a few weeks ago who said quite plainly that the Guardian was 180 degrees wrong, I’ve stopped reading it entirely.

    They flipped the conclusion properly the wrong way.

    Well done that man. Pity it took you so long, mind :)

    Which article was it?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,408
    orraloon said:

    Prove it, serial contrarian boy. Let me think... oh yeah... I refer you to my post(s) above.

    The regular refs to Etonians, toffs etc. The occasional mention of wanting to kill Fox hunters. The mask slips regularly enough ;)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,408
    Jeremy.89 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Funny how for a decade the complaint was the EU generated too much red tape and bureaucracy.

    The EU already uses it for 62 countries.
    You know exactly what I meant.
    We may well lose more red tape than we gain over time, such is the nature of the EU.
    Unless you want to sell into the EU, in which case you'll still be subject to this red tape...

    My prediction would also be that much of this red tape is replaced rather than removed, although maybe to honour old Theresa it'll be renamed red, white and blue tape.
    Same for any country exporting to any other country. So no real change. However we won't get nearly as much of others having a say in our domestic affairs. Which seemed to be a vote winner back in 2016.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666 said:

    The remoaners are not going to like this :D

    An Italian university is opening a campus in the UK for around 250 students, the majority of which will be Italian or French.


    If we were only listening to the remoaners this would never happen as there is not a chance that the UK was going to get foreign investment following Brexit.

    More evidence that Project Fear that remoaners were pushing is laughable.

    For anybody who does not know you I think this post nicely captures how much you don’t realise how much that you don’t understand.
    Why don't you explain what/why he doesn't understand, rather than just being condescending?
    We know he is from Berkshire. That is enough for me and I just ignore him.

    The remoaners now have to own all their stupid negative predictions as they are called out.

    Have you noticed any empty shelves in the supermarkets yet? ;)
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    edited February 2020
    Stevo_666 said:

    The remoaners are not going to like this :D

    An Italian university is opening a campus in the UK for around 250 students, the majority of which will be Italian or French.


    If we were only listening to the remoaners this would never happen as there is not a chance that the UK was going to get foreign investment following Brexit.

    More evidence that Project Fear that remoaners were pushing is laughable.

    For anybody who does not know you I think this post nicely captures how much you don’t realise how much that you don’t understand.
    Why don't you explain what/why he doesn't understand, rather than just being condescending?
    If you mean explain to him then it is not possible - as an example he thinks that GDP growth is a matter of opinion.

    What is the chance of explaining the proportion and scale of the higher education sector? And that is before we get to the complicated stuff
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436

    Have you noticed any empty shelves in the supermarkets yet? ;)

    Pretending not to understand what's happening just to 'own' the remainers isn't the win you think it is.




    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • Stevo_666 said:

    The remoaners are not going to like this :D

    An Italian university is opening a campus in the UK for around 250 students, the majority of which will be Italian or French.


    If we were only listening to the remoaners this would never happen as there is not a chance that the UK was going to get foreign investment following Brexit.

    More evidence that Project Fear that remoaners were pushing is laughable.

    For anybody who does not know you I think this post nicely captures how much you don’t realise how much that you don’t understand.
    Why don't you explain what/why he doesn't understand, rather than just being condescending?
    We know he is from Berkshire. That is enough for me and I just ignore him.

    The remoaners now have to own all their stupid negative predictions as they are called out.

    Have you noticed any empty shelves in the supermarkets yet? ;)
    I got my Brexit bonus in my pay packet this week. Result!

    What are you all spending yours on?
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Brexit bonus? Think BloJo spaffed mine up the wall on pretty oh so pretty vacant advertisements.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,408

    Stevo_666 said:

    The remoaners are not going to like this :D

    An Italian university is opening a campus in the UK for around 250 students, the majority of which will be Italian or French.


    If we were only listening to the remoaners this would never happen as there is not a chance that the UK was going to get foreign investment following Brexit.

    More evidence that Project Fear that remoaners were pushing is laughable.

    For anybody who does not know you I think this post nicely captures how much you don’t realise how much that you don’t understand.
    Why don't you explain what/why he doesn't understand, rather than just being condescending?
    We know he is from Berkshire. That is enough for me and I just ignore him.

    The remoaners now have to own all their stupid negative predictions as they are called out.

    Have you noticed any empty shelves in the supermarkets yet? ;)
    I got my Brexit bonus in my pay packet this week. Result!

    What are you all spending yours on?
    Bonus time not until end of May for me. I expect to get a decent one, partly for all the effort put into coordinating our Brexit planning at work. Wonder if this one goes in the irony thread? :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666 said:

    The remoaners are not going to like this :D

    An Italian university is opening a campus in the UK for around 250 students, the majority of which will be Italian or French.


    If we were only listening to the remoaners this would never happen as there is not a chance that the UK was going to get foreign investment following Brexit.

    More evidence that Project Fear that remoaners were pushing is laughable.

    For anybody who does not know you I think this post nicely captures how much you don’t realise how much that you don’t understand.
    Why don't you explain what/why he doesn't understand, rather than just being condescending?
    We know he is from Berkshire. That is enough for me and I just ignore him.

    The remoaners now have to own all their stupid negative predictions as they are called out.

    Have you noticed any empty shelves in the supermarkets yet? ;)
    I got my Brexit bonus in my pay packet this week. Result!

    What are you all spending yours on?
    Holidays.

    Just recently back from one and got two more over the next 3 months B)

    Don't you think it is amazing that I can still fly to the EU considering what remoaners were scaremongering about?
  • Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    The remoaners are not going to like this :D

    An Italian university is opening a campus in the UK for around 250 students, the majority of which will be Italian or French.


    If we were only listening to the remoaners this would never happen as there is not a chance that the UK was going to get foreign investment following Brexit.

    More evidence that Project Fear that remoaners were pushing is laughable.

    For anybody who does not know you I think this post nicely captures how much you don’t realise how much that you don’t understand.
    Why don't you explain what/why he doesn't understand, rather than just being condescending?
    We know he is from Berkshire. That is enough for me and I just ignore him.

    The remoaners now have to own all their stupid negative predictions as they are called out.

    Have you noticed any empty shelves in the supermarkets yet? ;)
    I got my Brexit bonus in my pay packet this week. Result!

    What are you all spending yours on?
    Bonus time not until end of May for me. I expect to get a decent one, partly for all the effort put into coordinating our Brexit planning at work. Wonder if this one goes in the irony thread? :)
    Your company having to pay you extra to work on something non-productive? I can't see the irony, just the waste. Still, it will have contributed to increased GDP, amirite?
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,408

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    The remoaners are not going to like this :D

    An Italian university is opening a campus in the UK for around 250 students, the majority of which will be Italian or French.


    If we were only listening to the remoaners this would never happen as there is not a chance that the UK was going to get foreign investment following Brexit.

    More evidence that Project Fear that remoaners were pushing is laughable.

    For anybody who does not know you I think this post nicely captures how much you don’t realise how much that you don’t understand.
    Why don't you explain what/why he doesn't understand, rather than just being condescending?
    We know he is from Berkshire. That is enough for me and I just ignore him.

    The remoaners now have to own all their stupid negative predictions as they are called out.

    Have you noticed any empty shelves in the supermarkets yet? ;)
    I got my Brexit bonus in my pay packet this week. Result!

    What are you all spending yours on?
    Bonus time not until end of May for me. I expect to get a decent one, partly for all the effort put into coordinating our Brexit planning at work. Wonder if this one goes in the irony thread? :)
    Your company having to pay you extra to work on something non-productive? I can't see the irony, just the waste. Still, it will have contributed to increased GDP, amirite?
    Mitigating risk and having contingency plans has value to a business. Otherwise they wouldn't want me to do it.

    We do similar things all the time to deal with the many other things that change over time and/or are uncertain.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Not knocking what you do, it's just a waste in the same way that what I'll probably have to do late this year is, in December when every company has to change/test systems at the operational/accounting level because they don't know what's coming until the last possible month. Happy Christmas everyone.
  • Stevo_666 said:

    The remoaners are not going to like this :D

    An Italian university is opening a campus in the UK for around 250 students, the majority of which will be Italian or French.


    If we were only listening to the remoaners this would never happen as there is not a chance that the UK was going to get foreign investment following Brexit.

    More evidence that Project Fear that remoaners were pushing is laughable.

    For anybody who does not know you I think this post nicely captures how much you don’t realise how much that you don’t understand.
    Why don't you explain what/why he doesn't understand, rather than just being condescending?
    We know he is from Berkshire. That is enough for me and I just ignore him.

    The remoaners now have to own all their stupid negative predictions as they are called out.

    Have you noticed any empty shelves in the supermarkets yet? ;)
    I got my Brexit bonus in my pay packet this week. Result!

    What are you all spending yours on?
    Holidays.

    Just recently back from one and got two more over the next 3 months B)

    Don't you think it is amazing that I can still fly to the EU considering what remoaners were scaremongering about?
    Sad to see the penny has still not dropped about the transition period
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Putin's boys need to reprogram the bots to reflect that not a lot changes during the transition period. It's from Jan 1 2021 that the who the xxxx knows what happens.
  • orraloon said:

    Putin's boys need to reprogram the bots to reflect that not a lot changes during the transition period. It's from Jan 1 2021 that the who the xxxx knows what happens.

    No need to wait that long as June 30th is the deadline for extending the transition. Though as Boris has promised to die in a ditch under a bulldozer this won’t be happening
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349

    orraloon said:

    Putin's boys need to reprogram the bots to reflect that not a lot changes during the transition period. It's from Jan 1 2021 that the who the xxxx knows what happens.

    No need to wait that long as June 30th is the deadline for extending the transition. Though as Boris has promised to die in a ditch under a bulldozer this won’t be happening

    Shares in bulldozer manufacturers rising already, I expect...
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    edited February 2020
    Interesting development from Nissan in the FT.

    They seem to have a plan to move production to the UK if there are tariffs on cars, essentially gambling they can grab a huge chunk of the UK market share (from 4% to 20%)

    Ill try to post a link when I'm on my desktop.

    Im sure there's a bit more to it than I've described


    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!