The Cycling Podcast

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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,416
    "At home with the Froomes"?
    Seriously?
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,252
    "At home with the Froomes"?
    Seriously?
    It’s a crap title, but it’s just two interviews done at their apartment
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Guessing they didn't raid the bathroom to see how many inhalers he had ;)
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    RichN95 wrote:
    In the latest podcast they say they are going to do some shows ‘around the country’ next year.

    They are.

    South London and North London.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,416
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,252
    I can remember when Moore and Freibe used to do one for Cycling News with Anthony Tan. Let's just say that they got to make their mistakes on other people's money
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • Even I am beginning to worry about the impartiality of TCP.

    They should be back with the Froome family now asking the questions and finding out why they were hoodwinked last autumn.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Even I am beginning to worry about the impartiality of TCP.

    They should be back with the Froome family now asking the questions and finding out why they were hoodwinked last autumn.
    Ja but I also wants loads of interviews with riders about, y'know, racing & stuff.

    TBH when it's a doping podcast I tend to skip through half of it. ZZZZzzzzzz
  • I think all of the big podcasts suffer a bit from having to be nice to the riders and DS's to get interviews.

    You feel the underlying bile coming out of the cycling news one at times.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Depends what you want from your podcast.

    They're fairly frank with their views.

    But ultimately, it's entertainment, and they need to find enough stuff that's worth listening to to fill an hour each week.

    If it was just them talking saying how awful it all was we'd turn off sharpish.
  • Tashman
    Tashman Posts: 3,494
    Has anyone else caught the Bespoke podcast on R5? Thoughts?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,252
    Tashman wrote:
    Has anyone else caught the Bespoke podcast on R5? Thoughts?
    I think it's decent. They took the unusual choice of going weekly just as the season was finishing so it's not really had a chance to get going fully yet.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • Depends what you want from your podcast.

    At the moment the Velonews Fast Talk show is winning for me.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Depends what you want from your podcast.

    At the moment the Velonews Fast Talk show is winning for me.

    This explains a lot.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,252
    I think all of the big podcasts suffer a bit from having to be nice to the riders and DS's to get interviews.

    You feel the underlying bile coming out of the cycling news one at times.
    Why shouldn't they be nice to them? They're just cyclists entertaining us. They've done nothing to earn rude behaviour towards them. They don't owe us anything and certainly aren't accountable to us. And they certainly don't owe podcasts interviews.

    Cycling News are content generators playing at being journalists, and they think that being a 'proper' journalist means being constantly antagonistic.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • RichN95 wrote:
    I think all of the big podcasts suffer a bit from having to be nice to the riders and DS's to get interviews.

    You feel the underlying bile coming out of the cycling news one at times.
    Why shouldn't they be nice to them? They're just cyclists entertaining us. They've done nothing to earn rude behaviour towards them. They don't owe us anything and certainly aren't accountable to us. And they certainly don't owe podcasts interviews.

    Cycling News are content generators playing at being journalists, and they think that being a 'proper' journalist means being constantly antagonistic.



    Show us where the nasty cycling journo touched you, Rich
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,252
    RichN95 wrote:
    I think all of the big podcasts suffer a bit from having to be nice to the riders and DS's to get interviews.

    You feel the underlying bile coming out of the cycling news one at times.
    Why shouldn't they be nice to them? They're just cyclists entertaining us. They've done nothing to earn rude behaviour towards them. They don't owe us anything and certainly aren't accountable to us. And they certainly don't owe podcasts interviews.

    Cycling News are content generators playing at being journalists, and they think that being a 'proper' journalist means being constantly antagonistic.

    Show us where the nasty cycling journo touched you, Rich
    A pleasant non-cycling journalist touched me in the brain.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • nickice
    nickice Posts: 2,439
    I don't think I'll renew my subscription to friends of the podcast this year. I like the three guys (I used to find Friebe quite childish but he's my favourite now but the specials have not really been that interesting for me. They do strange things that add very little to the listener's experience. It'd have been better if they'd had the 'lunch with Brian Holm' episode as a studio interview, for example.
  • nickice wrote:
    I don't think I'll renew my subscription to friends of the podcast this year. I like the three guys (I used to find Friebe quite childish but he's my favourite now but the specials have not really been that interesting for me. They do strange things that add very little to the listener's experience. It'd have been better if they'd had the 'lunch with Brian Holm' episode as a studio interview, for example.

    I half agree but at the same time, the FotP help fund the more interesting weekly shows. The likes of the Velocast were charging £8pcm for their 'matey blokes down the pub but drinking diet coke' show. I enjoyed it when it was FTA but when you consider the contacts that the 3 amigos have in comparison, the shows are night and day.
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    ^ 100% what argyllflyer says
  • Also liking Bespoke on R5 - not so much of a focus on the pro scene as the Cycling Podcast, and probably the better for it.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Sun Dodger wrote:
    Also liking Bespoke on R5 - not so much of a focus on the pro scene as the Cycling Podcast, and probably the better for it.

    Errr what?
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    dish_dash wrote:
    ^ 100% what argyllflyer says

    agree

    It's 15 quid for the year, or less than 4 pints / 6 coffees in most places. Pretty decent value for the amount of content. And as has been raised up thread you actually get interviews etc with people in the sport at events, rather than a couple of self-righteous blokes sat around regurgitating what they've just watched on TV, or amalgamating stuff from other sources.
  • stagehopper
    stagehopper Posts: 1,593
    dish_dash wrote:
    ^ 100% what argyllflyer says

    agree

    It's 15 quid for the year, or less than 4 pints / 6 coffees in most places. Pretty decent value for the amount of content. And as has been raised up thread you actually get interviews etc with people in the sport at events

    I feel the same - around 60 Grand Tour podcasts plus the weekly show adds another 40 plus monthly women's podcast another 12 plus say 12 friends podcasts - 124 podcasts for £15.
  • prhymeate
    prhymeate Posts: 795
    I'm pretty tight with subscribing to things but definitely thing the FotP is worth the money. I'd say it's my favourite cycling podcast going. I really enjoyed The 3 Domestiques for the few months that it ran. Life in the Peloton is another good one although pretty sporadic with releases.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    Even I am beginning to worry about the impartiality of TCP.

    They should be back with the Froome family now asking the questions and finding out why they were hoodwinked last autumn.

    You think Froome would agree to that interview?

    And if Froome agreed to another interview on another topic, and they started grilling him on doping, do you think they would be able to interview him again?

    They did discuss the Froome Salbutamol situation in detail in their 14th Dec podcast, where they were fairly critical of Froome (although not nearly to the level of CN etc.) - and since there has been no new information since then, why would they keep banging on about it?

    They haven't done a regular episode yet in 2018 either.
  • nickice
    nickice Posts: 2,439
    dish_dash wrote:
    ^ 100% what argyllflyer says

    agree

    It's 15 quid for the year, or less than 4 pints / 6 coffees in most places. Pretty decent value for the amount of content. And as has been raised up thread you actually get interviews etc with people in the sport at events, rather than a couple of self-righteous blokes sat around regurgitating what they've just watched on TV, or amalgamating stuff from other sources.


    Problem is that all the other podcasts I listen to are completely free for me and funded by advertising/sponsorship. Ultimately I can get the cycling podcast for free and I just don't think it's worth it to pay for the specials even if they say that the subscription funds the other podcasts.

    Little things annoy me about the specials. Lionel Birnie just turned up at the Roubaix velodrome when he could have contacted someone from the organisation 'Les Amis de Paris Roubaix' or similar to really give him an insight. Of course, he was hampered by quite a basic level of French but he should use a translator if that's the case. If I've subscribed to something, I want them to give me some information that I can't easily get off the internet. Having said that, I really liked one of the Giro episodes when they went to Riccardo Ricco's hometown. That's the kind of insight that's worth the extra money (I do realise it was one of the free podcasts!).
  • argyllflyer
    argyllflyer Posts: 893
    edited January 2018
    nickice wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    ^ 100% what argyllflyer says

    agree

    It's 15 quid for the year, or less than 4 pints / 6 coffees in most places. Pretty decent value for the amount of content. And as has been raised up thread you actually get interviews etc with people in the sport at events, rather than a couple of self-righteous blokes sat around regurgitating what they've just watched on TV, or amalgamating stuff from other sources.


    Problem is that all the other podcasts I listen to are completely free for me and funded by advertising/sponsorship. Ultimately I can get the cycling podcast for free and I just don't think it's worth it to pay for the specials even if they say that the subscription funds the other podcasts.

    Little things annoy me about the specials. Lionel Birnie just turned up at the Roubaix velodrome when he could have contacted someone from the organisation 'Les Amis de Paris Roubaix' or similar to really give him an insight. Of course, he was hampered by quite a basic level of French but he should use a translator if that's the case. If I've subscribed to something, I want them to give me some information that I can't easily get off the internet. Having said that, I really liked one of the Giro episodes when they went to Riccardo Ricco's hometown. That's the kind of insight that's worth the extra money (I do realise it was one of the free podcasts!).

    The difference (as I see it) between the free pods and the subscription models is that in the case of the Cycling Podcast anyway, you have professional journalists and writers bringing a fairly heavy-duty level of service to listeners. If they were moonlighting and up a mountain in Italy for a paper as well as the pod, I'd agree with your view a bit more but as I understand, the CP subscription base allows them to be on site at such events when they would not be there otherwise (it was the reason they started - they were unable to attend the 2013 Tour without the sponsorship deals etc because of print press cutbacks) and gives them the impetus to clear diaries to do the weekly pod as well as the specials. Now Friebe is employed by ITV he tends not to appear on the 'on the ground' ones because of scheduling clashes I'd assume.

    The free ones tend to be hobby pods.
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    nickice wrote:
    I don't think I'll renew my subscription to friends of the podcast this year. I like the three guys (I used to find Friebe quite childish but he's my favourite now but the specials have not really been that interesting for me. They do strange things that add very little to the listener's experience. It'd have been better if they'd had the 'lunch with Brian Holm' episode as a studio interview, for example.

    I half agree but at the same time, the FotP help fund the more interesting weekly shows. The likes of the Velocast were charging £8pcm for their 'matey blokes down the pub but drinking diet coke' show. I enjoyed it when it was FTA but when you consider the contacts that the 3 amigos have in comparison, the shows are night and day.

    I agree with this, but i pay for the Velocast because I don't buy magazines any more and for a similar price I get several hours of entertainment per month. It's the only thing that gets me through long training rides ;)
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    dish_dash wrote:
    ^ 100% what argyllflyer says

    agree

    It's 15 quid for the year, or less than 4 pints / 6 coffees in most places. Pretty decent value for the amount of content. And as has been raised up thread you actually get interviews etc with people in the sport at events

    I feel the same - around 60 Grand Tour podcasts plus the weekly show adds another 40 plus monthly women's podcast another 12 plus say 12 friends podcasts - 124 podcasts for £15.

    ^This. One of the best 15 quids you could spend. That's less than one takeaway curry. For a year's worth.