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Angus Young

It actually makes me sad to see someone throwing their life away on make believe. Genuinely sad.

pesky_jones

Cody wrote:

I just don't want to see anyone burn in hell even if they've been good people but they refuse to believe in god .

I wouldn't loose sleep over it

cooldad

Cody wrote:

...I know from experience and from users on this thread that most of you are atheists and most or predominantly Caucasian people in this country have turned their backs on religion and good morals and refined character. I haven't got a problem with that, I just don't want to see anyone burn in hell even if they've been good people but they refuse to believe in god....

What saddens me is that some people believe that morals can only result from the fear of eternal damnation.

I manage quite well without needing a beardy ghost to keep me in line thank you.

welshkev

It is sad. I was friendly with a few Jahovas (sp?) witness' and they were so brainwashed it was unbelievable. I was telling them stuff that was common knowledge and they were disputing it. Kind of like the pig is a dirty animal thing.

But as the OP said he's not trying to convert anyone, simply express his ideals. (Unless it's a Trojan horse tactic!) if it works for you mate, cool. But I still think you're a bit feckin mental to believe in these things in this day and age.

cooldad

Maybe, but disregarding religion, and I do, he's still spouting a load of ignorant shite about real stuff.

rockmonkeysc

Pesky Jones wrote:

Cody wrote:

I just don't want to see anyone burn in hell even if they've been good people but they refuse to believe in god .

I wouldn't loose sleep over it

I had a discussion with Jehovas Witnesses about this (I like winding them up) According to various religions you can devote your life to helping other people and do more for humanity than anyone else in history but if you don't tell God regularly how awesome he is then you will burn in hell. Or you could be a murdering, selfish, thieving rapist, paedo, estate agent and be no worse off.

Angus Young

RockmonkeySC wrote:

I had a discussion with Jehovas Witnesses about this (I like winding them up) According to various religions you can devote your life to helping other people and do more for humanity than anyone else in history but if you don't tell God regularly how awesome he is then you will burn in hell. Or you could be a murdering, selfish, thieving rapist, paedo, estate agent and be no worse off.

Yes, that's what the Christian I worked with said - it's not enough to be a thoroughly decent human being, you don't get in unless you grovel to God.

The fact that it's all based around being subservient probably tells you all you need to know about what it's really about.

Antm81

cooldad wrote:

Cody wrote:

...I know from experience and from users on this thread that most of you are atheists and most or predominantly Caucasian people in this country have turned their backs on religion and good morals and refined character. I haven't got a problem with that, I just don't want to see anyone burn in hell even if they've been good people but they refuse to believe in god....

What saddens me is that some people believe that morals can only result from the fear of eternal damnation.

I manage quite well without needing a beardy ghost to keep me in line thank you.

Exactly, not being religious doesn't mean you have poor morals.

My biggest problem is with all this burn in hell or going to paradise stuff. Where's the proof? Just because it's in a bunch of books doesn't mean it's true. I read the lion the witch and the wardrobe as a child and I'm still yet to find a wardrobe I can walk through to a mystical land with a talking lion.

welshkev

[quote="Antm81 Just because it's in a bunch of books doesn't mean it's true. I read the lion the witch and the wardrobe as a child and I'm still yet to find a wardrobe I can walk through to a mystical land with a talking lion.[/quote]

I did once, but I had taken some LSD just before

paul.skibum

Cody wrote:

I plan on getting married next year to someone religious. My life only gets better and better as each day goes by, the only thing I'm lacking now is cycling and making the most use of my bike. I know I will I can do it, it's just a matter of trying.

Have you met this person you plan on marrying? Or is this a plan to meet someone and then marry them. But all in the space of the next 14 months? What if she wants a summer wedding and you meet her in August? Rush job?

You mention you are the youngest member of this forum - how old are you?

ste_t

If I get to heaven and there is no bacon nor hot slags, that God fella is getting a punch in his stupid beardy face.

Have you sold the bike yet? I thoroughly recommend spending the money on cheap drugs and cheaper women.

Better to die after a life of bloody fantastic regrets.

Edit: And chips. There's never enough bloody chips.

veronese68

Best description I ever heard of heaven and hell:
A guy was taken to see hell and found it was row upon row of tables weighed down with all the food and drink you could ever wish for, but everybody was miserable as they couldn't reach their mouths.
He was then shown heaven and the set up was the same, except everyone was happy as they were all eating and drinking what they wanted, even bacon. Then it was pointed out to him that they too couldn't reach their own mouths, but were feeding each other and sharing the wealth.
So heaven and hell are the same, it's the attitudes of people that make the difference.

Cody

Rockmonkey - have you had a bad experience with estate agents?

Paul.Skibum - I've met someone, introduced to me through extended family, but talks and negotiations still ongoing. I get a chance to meet the girl soon and get to know her and if she agrees, we can take things further. The parents do all the negotiations, In my religion, marriage is considered half of the religion, then the other half is worshipping god and fulfilling the rights of a husband to the wife. The religious function or wedding I will have is called a Nikah where it's just a simple, not lavish wedding and I have to sign a contract. Both parties mutually agree and enter into this contract. Both bride and groom have the liberty to define various terms and conditions of their liking and make them a part of this contract. Marriage (nikah) is considered as an act of worship. It is virtuous to conduct it in a Mosque keeping the ceremony simple. The marriage ceremony is a social as well as a religious activity. Islam advocates simplicity in ceremonies and celebrations. Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) considered simple weddings the best weddings. He said, "The best wedding is that upon which the least trouble and expense is bestowed". Also, after the consummation of the marriage, the groom holds a banquet called a walima. The relatives, neighbors, and friends are invited in order to make them aware of the marriage. Both rich and poor of the family and community are invited to the marriage feasts. Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said, "The worst of the feasts are those marriage feasts to which the rich are invited and the poor are left out".

That's pretty much a basic outline, of what I have to go through, there's a lot more but I'm just at work so will get a chance to elaborate more on it later if you want me to.

Oh and I'm 25, didn't say I was youngest, I said I'm probbably the youngest.

pesky_jones

Veronese68 wrote:

Best description I ever heard of heaven and hell:
A guy was taken to see hell and found it was row upon row of tables weighed down with all the food and drink you could ever wish for, but everybody was miserable as they couldn't reach their mouths.
He was then shown heaven and the set up was the same, except everyone was happy as they were all eating and drinking what they wanted, even bacon. Then it was pointed out to him that they too couldn't reach their own mouths, but were feeding each other and sharing the wealth.
So heaven and hell are the same, it's the attitudes of people that make the difference.

I like that one but you missed out the 6 foot long knives and forks - it doesnt make sense otherwise

Not that I believe in it, just like the analogy

Chunkers1980

GT's younger.

Seriously - arranged marriage!!. That's the most fukked up thing I know. "Talks and negotiations still ongoing" Massive WTF.

paul.skibum

Cody wrote:

That's pretty much a basic outline, of what I have to go through, there's a lot more but I'm just at work so will get a chance to elaborate more on it later if you want me to.

I wouldn't put yourself out. Sounds romantic though. Gotta love a contract.

pblakeney

Think of all the dead people you would like to invite to a party if you could resurrect them in their prime.

How many of those whom you would invite would considered to be in hell?

ol\'gregg

Sounds very romantic indeed.
We've never officially met but here are my terms and conditions...
You will always call me Sir
You will always travel in the back of the car
You will walk 2 steps behind me at all times.
kneel before ZOD
speak when spoken to.

Sounds fun. I have had dealings with all different religions in my job and whilst I have no issue with people having faith in something and on the whole they have all been rational polite people. I do find it odd that they would choose to hold their meetings/ conferences/ weddings/ theatre shows in a museum full of facts about life millions of years ago. When some of them tell me that the earth is thousands of years old and that dinosaurs are a man made myth.
I did offer to take the group of creationists around our evolution and origins of early man exhibitions but they politely declined.

But on another note have you ridden your bike today?

cooldad

Cody wrote:

I've met someone,

Excellent, well done. Is she hot?

Cody wrote:

I get a chance to meet the girl soon and get to know her

One of us is confused. You do know what 'met' means?

Cody wrote:

Islam advocates simplicity in ceremonies and celebrations.

Sounds good.

Cody wrote:

Also, after the consummation of the marriage, the groom holds a banquet called a walima. The relatives, neighbors, and friends are invited in order to make them aware of the marriage.

So a street party to celebrate your first shag. Subtle. Afterwards you'll be a cruddie.

Cody wrote:

Oh and I'm 25, didn't say I was youngest, I said I'm probbably the youngest.

You think? Jay13, who has sadly disappeared (Gaz, what did you do with him?), will always be 13.

angry_bird

I thought Jay was eternally 12?

cooldad

I believe he made it to 13, and had a clown at his party.

Gaz naturally denies everything.

pesky_jones

I'm younger than you cody. I like this guy. He's excellent at what he does, a lot of time and effort has gone into this.

cooldad

Pesky Jones wrote:

I'm younger than you cody.

That is obvious from your juvenile sense of humour, humour being used in the most charitable sense of the word.

ps is that a smiley in your sig?

rockmonkeysc

cooldad wrote:

Excellent, well done. Is she hot?

I don't think he can afford to be that fussy.

pesky_jones

Don't lie cooldad, I know I make you giggle like you did when you were a little girl

P.s Yes it is a smiley, hold ctrl and scroll your mouse wheel, no need to strain those old eyes

veronese68

Pesky Jones wrote:

P.s Yes it is a smiley, hold ctrl and scroll your mouse wheel, no need to strain those old eyes

This thread is worthwhile. I didn't know that. :oops:

Chunkers1980

RockmonkeySC wrote:

cooldad wrote:

Excellent, well done. Is she hot?

I don't think he can afford to be that fussy.

She's gonna have a wispy moustache/burner thing going on, that's for sure.

cooldad

Veronese68 wrote:

Pesky Jones wrote:

P.s Yes it is a smiley, hold ctrl and scroll your mouse wheel, no need to strain those old eyes

This thread is worthwhile. I didn't know that. :oops:

Excellent. I can see again. It must be a miracle.

pesky_jones

cooldad wrote:

Veronese68 wrote:

Pesky Jones wrote:

P.s Yes it is a smiley, hold ctrl and scroll your mouse wheel, no need to strain those old eyes

This thread is worthwhile. I didn't know that. :oops:

Excellent. I can see again. It must be a miracle.

Have you repented recently? Maybe you're being rewarded

veronese68

Pesky Jones wrote:

cooldad wrote:

Veronese68 wrote:

Pesky Jones wrote:

P.s Yes it is a smiley, hold ctrl and scroll your mouse wheel, no need to strain those old eyes

This thread is worthwhile. I didn't know that. :oops:

Excellent. I can see again. It must be a miracle.

Have you repented recently? Maybe you're being rewarded