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Cody

cooldad wrote:

Cody wrote:

I've met someone,

Excellent, well done. Is she hot?

Cody wrote:

I get a chance to meet the girl soon and get to know her

One of us is confused. You do know what 'met' means?

Cody wrote:

Also, after the consummation of the marriage, the groom holds a banquet called a walima. The relatives, neighbors, and friends are invited in order to make them aware of the marriage.

So a street party to celebrate your first shag. Subtle. Afterwards you'll be a cruddie.

Is She Hot?
Religious beauty is something everyone adores, but the beauty of the woman and her body is only for the husband to be seen in private and not for the enjoyment of anyone else wether in public or at home. Unlike some Caucasian girls in this country, religious girls are modest and humble. Religious girls differ from the western concept. Modesty as a sense of shame or shyness in human beings is a shrinking of the soul from foul conduct, a quality that prevents one from behaving badly towards others or encouraging others to behave badly towards you. Islamic ethics considers modesty as more than just a question of how a person dresses, and more than just modesty in front of people. Rather it is reflected in a Muslim’s speech, dress, and conduct, in public in regards to people, and in private in regards to God. Any talk of modesty, therefore, must begin with the heart, as the Prophet of Mercy said, ‘Modesty is part of faith', and that part of faith must lie in the heart. According to the Qur'an, when Adam and Eve ate from the fruit of the forbidden tree, they became aware that their private parts were exposed, and they began to cover themselves with the leaves of Paradise, a natural result of their modesty.

Have I met her?
I meant to say, I've met her and will be meeting her again and god willing, if things work out I'll be going down often to see her, but we can't do anything before marriage or do vain and idle talk.

The witnessing of the marriage is so that, when you go out somewhere together in public, people then know you are legally married and not commiting adultery or fornication. Unlike some Caucasian girls in this country they are most likely to do the wrong things before marriage and date and have estranged relationships before marriage, and sometimes never get married even after being with that guy for a while.

Chunkers1980

Who says they are the wrong things?

pesky_jones

Cody wrote:

cooldad wrote:

Cody wrote:

I've met someone,

Excellent, well done. Is she hot?

Cody wrote:

I get a chance to meet the girl soon and get to know her

One of us is confused. You do know what 'met' means?

Cody wrote:

Also, after the consummation of the marriage, the groom holds a banquet called a walima. The relatives, neighbors, and friends are invited in order to make them aware of the marriage.

So a street party to celebrate your first shag. Subtle. Afterwards you'll be a cruddie.

Is She Hot?
Religious beauty is something everyone adores, but the beauty of the woman and her body is only for the husband to be seen in private and not for the enjoyment of anyone else wether in public or at home. Unlike some Caucasian, asian and black girls in this country, religious girls are modest and humble. Religious girls differ from the western concept. Modesty as a sense of shame or shyness in human beings is a shrinking of the soul from foul conduct, a quality that prevents one from behaving badly towards others or encouraging others to behave badly towards you. Islamic ethics considers modesty as more than just a question of how a person dresses, and more than just modesty in front of people. Rather it is reflected in a Muslim’s speech, dress, and conduct, in public in regards to people, and in private in regards to God. Any talk of modesty, therefore, must begin with the heart, as the Prophet of Mercy said, ‘Modesty is part of faith', and that part of faith must lie in the heart. According to the Qur'an, when Adam and Eve ate from the fruit of the forbidden tree, they became aware that their private parts were exposed, and they began to cover themselves with the leaves of Paradise, a natural result of their modesty.

Have I met her?
I meant to say, I've met her and will be meeting her again and god willing, if things work out I'll be going down often to see her, but we can't do anything before marriage or do vain and idle talk.

The witnessing of the marriage is so that, when you go out somewhere together in public, people then know you are legally married and not commiting adultery or fornication. Unlike some Caucasian, asian and black girls in this country they are most likely to do the wrong things before marriage and date and have estranged relationships before marriage, and sometimes never get married even after being with that guy for a while.

ftfy I can't help but bite

Cody

You see, I can't help but inform you Pesky,

You see I don't know what comes to your mind when you think of a Muslim woman? A mysterious, veiled victim of male oppression, awaiting Western liberation? A slogan shouting terrorist? An uneducated foreigner with whom you have little or nothing in common? Unless your social circle includes Muslim friends and acquaintances, the chances are that your impressions of Muslim women have largely been formed by negative media stereotypes e.g images that usually have little to do with real life, and may have been designed to attract more viewers, sell more products, or gain support for someone's political agenda. Ain't that right

Cody

Stop editing my posts Pesky, I know my words hurt your feminine feelings, tickle tickle

Those of you with little or no understanding, and Pesky, how much do you really know about Muslim women's lives or views, and why does it matter? Well, for one thing, Muslims account for 20-25% of the people on this planet, and Islam has become the second main religion in Europe and United Kingdom. But did you know that the majority of European and American and British converts to Islam are women, not men? Would it surprise you to learn that many women in the Muslim world feel sorry for Western women and view them as being victimised? Have you ever stopped to consider why Muslim women who immigrate to the West usually maintain their identity and strive to pass it on to their children? A thinking person may well ask, if Islam is as oppressive to women as some journalists would have us believe, why aren't Muslim women running away in droves? What it is about Islam that attracts any followers outside its heartlands?

The truth, like real life, is beyond propaganda and stereotypes

cooldad

A few pages back you were equating Darwinism with Hitler.

Now it's white chicks with sluts. (I can't spell caucasian)

So far no one on this thread has insulted muslims.

Why do you hate people so much? You need to step out of the bronze age and smell the bacon.

ps stupid people account for 50% of the people on this planet.

cooldad

Cody wrote:

Stop editing my posts Pesky, I know my words hurt your feminine feelings, tickle tickle

Those of you with little or no understanding, and Pesky, how much do you really know about Muslim women's lives or views, and why does it matter? Well, for one thing, Muslims account for 20-25% of the people on this planet, and Islam has become the second main religion in Europe and United Kingdom. But did you know that the majority of European and American and British converts to Islam are women, not men? Would it surprise you to learn that many women in the Muslim world feel sorry for Western women and view them as being victimised? Have you ever stopped to consider why Muslim women who immigrate to the West usually maintain their identity and strive to pass it on to their children? A thinking person may well ask, if Islam is as oppressive to women as some journalists would have us believe, why aren't Muslim women running away in droves? What it is about Islam that attracts any followers outside its heartlands?

The truth, like real life, is beyond propaganda and stereotypes

Could you provide proof of your statements. Some of us don't believe every random thing we are told.

pesky_jones

Cody wrote:

You see, I can't help but inform you Pesky,

You see I don't know what comes to your mind when you think of a Muslim woman? A mysterious, veiled victim of male oppression, awaiting Western liberation? A slogan shouting terrorist? An uneducated foreigner with whom you have little or nothing in common? Unless your social circle includes Muslim friends and acquaintances, the chances are that your impressions of Muslim women have largely been formed by negative media stereotypes e.g images that usually have little to do with real life, and may have been designed to attract more viewers, sell more products, or gain support for someone's political agenda. Ain't that right

I've got two close friends that are Muslim. None of those things come to mind, is that what you think comes to my mind?

Cody wrote:

Would it surprise you to learn that many women in the Muslim world feel sorry for Western women and view them as being victimised?

No that wouldnt surprise me, whatsoever

Cody

cooldad wrote:

A few pages back you were equating Darwinism with Hitler.

Now it's white chicks with sluts. (I can't spell caucasian)

So far no one on this thread has insulted muslims.

Why do you hate people so much? You need to step out of the bronze age and smell the bacon.

ps stupid people account for 50% of the people on this planet.

EXCUSE ME SIR, WHITE CHICKS and SLUTS ? I NEVER!

NO ONE HAS INSULTED MUSLIMS? YEAH RIGHT, STOP WAFFLING COOLDAD.

A few posts up ol gregg made a statement which was very serious and was very insulting.

Chunkers1980

Cody wrote:

Would it surprise you to learn that many women in the Muslim world feel sorry for Western women and view them as being victimised?

I'm sure these are the ones I feel sorry for too. The 'West' is not all TOWIE and glamour girl get your tits out you know?

ol\'gregg

When did this become about disliking Muslims and slating Muslim women?
I think in any race or belief system there things people agree on with each other and things they don't. Which is why the world we live in is so diverse in it's cultures and this is a good thing but in order for people to be respectful of your belief surely there has to be a respect from you for theirs?
dismissing non religious women on their life choices because they do not conform to a certain type to which you are accustomed does not make them a bad person or any less of a human being than you or I.
There will always be a debate on religion no matter the religion as the people following said religion do so on blind faith and their personal beliefs. Which to a non religious person will always seem an odd, outdated method on living your life. Living by the word of a book, written by men.

ol\'gregg

Cody wrote:

cooldad wrote:

A few pages back you were equating Darwinism with Hitler.

Now it's white chicks with sluts. (I can't spell caucasian)

So far no one on this thread has insulted muslims.

Why do you hate people so much? You need to step out of the bronze age and smell the bacon.

ps stupid people account for 50% of the people on this planet.

EXCUSE ME SIR, WHITE CHICKS and SLUTS ? I NEVER!

NO ONE HAS INSULTED MUSLIMS? YEAH RIGHT, STOP WAFFLING COOLDAD.

A few posts up ol gregg made a statement which was very serious and was very insulting.

My apologies If I offended you it was not meant as an insult. I have worked with a few local Muslim events and on one occasion that was actually how the women we're treated. I was by no means generalising.

pesky_jones

Cody wrote:

EXCUSE ME SIR, WHITE CHICKS and SLUTS ? I NEVER!

You kind of did

JodyP

Cody wrote:

if Islam is as oppressive to women as some journalists would have us believe, why aren't Muslim women running away in droves?

Probably due to a fear of ending up in a suitcase, getting stoned to death as punishment or having your head removed.

pesky_jones

JodyP wrote:

getting stoned as punishment.

if that was the punishment, I'd be a bad Muslim woman a lot

JodyP

Pesky Jones wrote:

JodyP wrote:

getting stoned as punishment.

if that was the punishment, I'd be a bad Muslim woman a lot

Indeed. Pass me a Niqab and a pipe :oops:

cooldad

Cody wrote:

cooldad wrote:

A few pages back you were equating Darwinism with Hitler.

Now it's white chicks with sluts. (I can't spell caucasian)

So far no one on this thread has insulted muslims.

Why do you hate people so much? You need to step out of the bronze age and smell the bacon.

ps stupid people account for 50% of the people on this planet.

EXCUSE ME SIR, WHITE CHICKS and SLUTS ? I NEVER!

NO ONE HAS INSULTED MUSLIMS? YEAH RIGHT, STOP WAFFLING COOLDAD.

A few posts up ol gregg made a statement which was very serious and was very insulting.

No need to shout. If that's not what you meant, what did you mean?
I still don't see any insults, just an observation.

As for waffling - my posts are pretty short, yours are long, rambling and filled with fail.

Angus Young

cooldad wrote:

Cody wrote:

Oh and I'm 25, didn't say I was youngest, I said I'm probbably the youngest.

You think? Jay13, who has sadly disappeared (Gaz, what did you do with him?), will always be 13.

Given that it's mountain biking I'm always surprised that there's anyone over 25. When I first came here I though I might be a little 'elderly' for this place.

pesky_jones

cooldad wrote:

As for waffling - my posts are pretty short, yours are long, rambling and filled with fail.

cooldad

Angus Young wrote:

cooldad wrote:

Cody wrote:

Oh and I'm 25, didn't say I was youngest, I said I'm probbably the youngest.

You think? Jay13, who has sadly disappeared (Gaz, what did you do with him?), will always be 13.

Given that it's mountain biking I'm always surprised that there's anyone over 25. When I first came here I though I might be a little 'elderly' for this place.

We do not discriminate on the basis of race, colour, creed or religion.
Just stupidity.

Angus Young

Cody wrote:

I've met her and will be meeting her again and god willing, if things work out I'll be going down often...

Sorry, I just had to.

Please mods, under no circumstance should you close this thread. It's a winner.

cooldad

Angus Young wrote:

Cody wrote:

I've met her and will be meeting her again and god willing, if things work out I'll be going down often...

Sorry, I just had to.

Please mods, under no circumstance should you close this thread. It's a winner.

Good catch.

Cody

ol\'gregg wrote:

Which is why the world we live in is so diverse in it's cultures and this is a good thing but in order for people to be respectful of your belief surely there has to be a respect from you for theirs?
dismissing non religious women on their life choices because they do not conform to a certain type to which you are accustomed does not make them a bad person or any less of a human being than you or I.
There will always be a debate on religion no matter the religion as the people following said religion do so on blind faith and their personal beliefs. Which to a non religious person will always seem an odd, outdated method on living your life. Living by the word of a book, written by men.

I never said they were worthless, I said some were not worthy of modesty. Some non-virgins are nice girls, they've either been divorced or have had pre-marital affairs but, never said they were worthless.

and,

yeah written by men?
produce a verse like it

cooldad

Cody wrote:

ol\'gregg wrote:

Which is why the world we live in is so diverse in it's cultures and this is a good thing but in order for people to be respectful of your belief surely there has to be a respect from you for theirs?
dismissing non religious women on their life choices because they do not conform to a certain type to which you are accustomed does not make them a bad person or any less of a human being than you or I.
There will always be a debate on religion no matter the religion as the people following said religion do so on blind faith and their personal beliefs. Which to a non religious person will always seem an odd, outdated method on living your life. Living by the word of a book, written by men.

I never said they were worthless, I said some were not worthy of modesty. Some non-virgins are nice girls, they've either been divorced or have had pre-marital affairs but, never said they were worthless.

and,

yeah written by men?
produce a verse like it

Oh God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son"
Abe says, "Man, you must be puttin' me on"
God say, "No." Abe say, "What ?"
God say, "You can do what you want Abe, but
The next time you see me comin' you better run"
Well Abe says, "Where do you want this killin' done ?"
God says. "Out on Highway 61".
Bob Dylan.

Cody

ol\'gregg wrote:

Cody wrote:

cooldad wrote:

A few pages back you were equating Darwinism with Hitler.

Now it's white chicks with sluts. (I can't spell caucasian)

So far no one on this thread has insulted muslims.

Why do you hate people so much? You need to step out of the bronze age and smell the bacon.

ps stupid people account for 50% of the people on this planet.

EXCUSE ME SIR, WHITE CHICKS and SLUTS ? I NEVER!

NO ONE HAS INSULTED MUSLIMS? YEAH RIGHT, STOP WAFFLING COOLDAD.

A few posts up ol gregg made a statement which was very serious and was very insulting.

My apologies If I offended you it was not meant as an insult. I have worked with a few local Muslim events and on one occasion that was actually how the women we're treated. I was by no means generalising.

Apology accepted, if I don't forgive, how can I expect the lord to forgive me?

That's not how muslim women should be treated whatever you saw or deemed as innappropriate. The prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said, the best of you are those who are best to their wifes and treat their women with kindness.

cooldad

Cody wrote:

ol\'gregg wrote:

Cody wrote:

cooldad wrote:

A few pages back you were equating Darwinism with Hitler.

Now it's white chicks with sluts. (I can't spell caucasian)

So far no one on this thread has insulted muslims.

Why do you hate people so much? You need to step out of the bronze age and smell the bacon.

ps stupid people account for 50% of the people on this planet.

EXCUSE ME SIR, WHITE CHICKS and SLUTS ? I NEVER!

NO ONE HAS INSULTED MUSLIMS? YEAH RIGHT, STOP WAFFLING COOLDAD.

A few posts up ol gregg made a statement which was very serious and was very insulting.

My apologies If I offended you it was not meant as an insult. I have worked with a few local Muslim events and on one occasion that was actually how the women we're treated. I was by no means generalising.

Apology accepted, if I don't forgive, how can I expect the lord to forgive me?

That's not how muslim women should be treated whatever you saw or deemed as innappropriate. The prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said, the best of you are those who are best to their wifes and treat their women with kindness.

Unless of course they do a little harmless fornication (cool word).
What happens then, according to your favourite book?

rockmonkeysc

I think a few people posting in this thread should be stoned. Spread the love and peace a bit, there's too much hate.

Cody

Yes, we need to eliminate the necessity for division and argument It leads to given disputation and eventually failure.

Angus Young

Cody wrote:

Yes, we need to eliminate the necessity for division and argument It leads to given disputation and eventually failure.

But how can we when you're so incredibly, staggeringly wrong? The division is between reality and psychosis. Can't just wish that away.

cooldad

RockmonkeySC wrote:

I think a few people posting in this thread should be stoned. Spread the love and peace a bit, there's too much hate.

Fortunately for you, I believe the reward for spreading love is stoning.