Oh what a surprise!

rockmonkeysc

Maybe he is a refuse collection engineer?

foy

Maybe he is a floor maintenance engineer also known as a sweeper up.

rockmonkeysc

foy wrote:

Maybe he is a floor maintenance engineer also known as a sweeper up.

Also known as apprentice.

Ryan Jones

[quote="lbalonyI dont need to back my opinion up with anything. I do work in engineering but not a shop as you put it. Getting back to the point I was merely stating that I do not believe that carreras, rockriders and boardmans etc are not as good a frame as treks, giants & specialised etc. yes they may come with glowing reviews based on the ride and full package, but I think you was missing my point. (Think foy missed it along time ago!) Which is purely on the frame. Im not disliking any ones bike just stating my opinion based on my engineering knowledge and experience with cracked frames. I encourage people to buy the sort of bikes we speak of. Infact I have told 2 people based on reviews to buy a voodoo bizango and 1 hoodoo. Now that sounds contradictory doesn't it? But i simply saw with my own eyes that it was a trail ready package for peanuts. They wouldn't need to swap anything out. Im not bothered if it won trail bike of the year as I know if it was priced at a grand it wouldn't be.


Btw I ride a bonded Ti Raleigh frame known for splitting. I love it. Do I believe its as good as a Lynskey Ti frame? No![/quote]

Ibalony, you clearly stated earlier on in the thread that you deal only with facts, and whilst you can use proper facts to back up an opinion, you haven't produced any facts. I'm baffled by what engineering knowledge you seem to have of these bikes, given that you haven't got access to any of the documentation I mentioned earlier on ?
I ride a cannondale (and tomorrow a Nukeproof shall be dropping through the letterbox) so I couldn't give a jot about the brands mentioned, however I cannot understand why you'd recommend bikes to people on one thread then call them inferior quality in another ?
Unless you have real "facts", for the purposes of advising others the frames should be viewed as being of equal quality, and when done so then it's left to the ride and kit to be the deciding factors. How would you feel if you owned one of these companies and saw your bikes losing grouptests based on nothing but assumptions as to their longevity and quality ?

Even in that response you contradict your previous one, you did state that boardman's are inferior frames earlier on and in fatigue tests a specialized would win hands down, so can you really blame us for missing your point when you can't seem to remember what it is you've said ?

Giraffoto

foy wrote:

kona kula 17 inch, i am 5ft 6ins and 28 inch inside leg with long upper body, the kona fits me like a glove but i just fancy something newer and a change. Trek do a 16 or 18 in the 26 inch range but the 16 is too short on the top tube and the 18 inch is no good on standover height. Even a 15.5 inch 29 er rockhopper is no good on standover height. Might be better to just do a brand new build as i love the standover height and length on the kona.

Sorry for the delay in replying, weekends and so on. Anyway, the important points are

• You're smaller than me, but not tiny and certainly within the average range of heights
• You like a bike that's long and low (If you were asking about pets, I'd suggest a snake)
• You're OK with the idea of doing your own build

How's this for an idea . . .

• Get yourself a new frame, headset (and seatpost/clamp/front derailleur if the seat tube is a different size). May I suggest that perennial favourite, the On-One 456 or Whippet?
• Shift all of your current components onto it
• Play around with stem sizes and angles until your position is perfect
• Upgrade other parts as you see fit - wheels first, then a new groupset when there's a good offer on

And there you have it - a new bike you built yourself. PM me if you're after a nice set of 26" XC wheels, by the way

foy wrote:

Cheers anyway if you ever get up North any time maybe we could meet up for a ride?

That's very kind of you, although it's a heck of a way. What's Delamere Forest like as a riding venue?

foy

Well to be honest delamere forest is a bit of a strange one, folk say that it is very busy, but i have been twice in midweek when the weather was beautiful and i did around 25 miles each time and i can hand on heart tell you i saw about 6 bikers in total over 2 visits. It is very easy to get lost it is that big, and some of the forest is quite remote which i like very much, the railway line and station bisects the forest so i used the noise of the trains to find my way back. So peaceful and a great location.

rockmonkeysc

Peaceful but with noise from trains?

foy

Two trains an hour and then you can only hear them in the distance.

Giraffoto

foy wrote:

Two trains an hour and then you can only hear them in the distance.

Carry a compass - you could be waiting up to twenty five minutes before you hear a train!

Is it fairly flat or hilly? Muddy and rooty or dry and smooth? I was angling for some sense of your favourite sort of riding (lots of climbing, rocky descents, smooth hard tracks, that sort of thing) to see if it suggested any other choices of new bike for you. Although the 456 in steel or carbon gets rave reviews so I'd probably still recommend that.

foy

More undulating than hilly only been in summer so it was dry when i went, there are rooty bits if you want to ride them, but i stick to the main paths when i go. Canal towpaths disused railways and bridleways are my forte.

Giraffoto

I'm sticking with this as a recommendation:

as I previously wrote:

How's this for an idea . . .

• Get yourself a new frame, headset (and seatpost/clamp/front derailleur if the seat tube is a different size). May I suggest that perennial favourite, the On-One 456 or Whippet?
• Shift all of your current components onto it
• Play around with stem sizes and angles until your position is perfect
• Upgrade other parts as you see fit - wheels first, then a new groupset when there's a good offer on

Although if your favourite terrain is relatively smooth, also consider a rigid fork (this is a decidedly minority opinion of mine) to save a considerable amount of weight.

CitizenLee

foy wrote:

Canal towpaths disused railways and bridleways are my forte.

Another option...

foy

Ha ha love it citizen lee but i would not like to drag one of those around on the train!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CitizenLee

foy wrote:

Ha ha love it citizen lee but i would not like to drag one of those around on the train!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Haha, I could see it getting some odd looks!

Is it wrong that I secretly want to give one a try? Don't tell anyone though :P

rockmonkeysc

foy wrote:

More undulating than hilly only been in summer so it was dry when i went, there are rooty bits if you want to ride them, but i stick to the main paths when i go. Canal towpaths disused railways and bridleways are my forte.

What you need is not a mountain bike, one of these should do you nicely

supersonic

Let's be a little careful of personal insults! This is aimed at no-one btw, just I prefer I good open (and constructive) discussion.

foy

No way that i am offended by all this hunky male attention, quite the opposite i just love it supersonic ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!

rockmonkeysc

There was no sexist intention in my recommendation. I would recommend the same bike to a bloke who rides cycle paths and canals.

paul.skibum

RockmonkeySC wrote:

There was no sexist intention in my recommendation. I would recommend the same bike to a bloke who rides cycle paths and canals.

I concur - mountain bikes do tend to be over priced for the needs of that terrain - one of those £80 quid decathlon singlespeeds that they used to sell would be perfect!

welshkev

fair point, but a hardtail does give more scope for potential future off road riding. especially if the OP ever takes up offers of going riding from all these "hunky males"

Giraffoto

foy wrote:

Canal towpaths disused railways and bridleways are my forte.

Funnily enough I missed this part of it. Definitely a fully rigid fork, it'll also make the bike much lighter when you're lifting it on and off the train. And another bit I missed . . .

foy wrote:

. . .the Kona fits me like a glove but I just fancy something newer and a change.

How about a respray, new stickers if stickers are your thing, rigid fork, and a lot of change left over from your original new bike budget? Your bike will look newer and be a bit lighter and nippier.

Finsforward420

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2015 rockhopper expert evo 650b or 29er or Neither. Want to order tomorrow. Budget is $1000-$1200. Need some real opinions, not personal preferences.

Giraffoto

Finsforward420 wrote:

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2015 rockhopper expert evo 650b or 29er or Neither. Want to order tomorrow. Budget is $1000-$1200. Need some real opinions, not personal preferences.

My real opinion is Go For It. 29er if you're tall.

njee20

29er

rockmonkeysc

29er for a hardball but not a Rockhopper, the ride is too harsh.

homers_double

So if I dust off my 26" Heckler and take it out will the sheep* point and laugh?



*I mean real sheep, not the fashion following types.

rockmonkeysc

No. It just won't work. Didn't you get the email telling you 26" is now obsolete?

cooldad

RockmonkeySC wrote:

No. It just won't work. Didn't you get the email telling you 26" is now obsolete?

So obsolete I got a telegram.

rockmonkeysc

cooldad wrote:

RockmonkeySC wrote:

No. It just won't work. Didn't you get the email telling you 26" is now obsolete?

So obsolete I got a telegram.

That reminds me. Didn't you get a telegram from the Queen on your last birthday?