TDF Stage 10-Mulhouse-La Planche des Belles Filles *spoiler*

frenchfighter

Break back together after the descent and Sagan solo to take the points.

No_Ta_Doctor

Moray Gub wrote:

Dippydog2 wrote:

What does *spoiler* mean?

Is it one of those stupid PC things like the way the BBC puts all headlines like "this"? As if putting in inverted commas means they can claim they didn't really mean it. All headlines are just alleged.

How can you spoil something that hasn't happened? And once it's happened it's too late anyway.

And if you think you might be revealing something that happened to someone that has recorded it and wants to pretend they do not know the result then WTF are they doing reading an internet forum about it for!

Rant over.

Kind of go along with this its a modern day bullsh*t thing people get real anal about this its simple if you don't want to know the result stay off the forum. After all you woudln't watch Sky Sports News or BCC Sports news this is no different.

Maybe for the Tour, but there are loads of other races, at loads of other times of day, throughout the season. It's a small courtesy to label threads with spoiler.

OPQS

Did Sagan get the sprint points? I am confused reading what's on the forum and watching what I can see on ES.

frenchfighter

Sagan will rejoin the break after sitting up.

They have 2.30.

Paul 8v

No tA Doctor wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Sagan, Voeckler, JRod sprint. Sagan drops off and JRod just nudges it.

Voeckler seems to have the points, but I'd like to see a photo.

Bastille day innit ;-) Let's hope this isn't like prehistoric football where they don't go back and review decisions after the event

above_the_cows

narbs wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

Ooo I'm getting into a Twitter argument with that poetry idiot John over Heineken. He's claiming it as Alsatian because Heineken have an international brewery there. Well they also have a brewery in Rwanda, but that doesn't make them Rwandan.

Congrats, he seems to have admitted defeat.

He really is a plum.

He's a massive plum. Nice avatar by the way.

frenchfighter

Wow, peloton split in two and yellow jersey caught out...they are sitting up though and the group behind will make it.

frenchfighter

Martin is forging away and has about 4 in two including Kwiatek. They are 45 secs ahead.

above_the_cows

CHENG!

alan_a

Above The Cows wrote:

narbs wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

Ooo I'm getting into a Twitter argument with that poetry idiot John over Heineken. He's claiming it as Alsatian because Heineken have an international brewery there. Well they also have a brewery in Rwanda, but that doesn't make them Rwandan.

Congrats, he seems to have admitted defeat.

He really is a plum.

He's a massive plum. Nice avatar by the way.

Crikey he's a much younger plum than I envisaged. I thought he sounded 60ish.

Paul 8v

What's John's surname? Might have to have a butchers at this twitter argument :-)

frenchfighter

Big Tone has single handedly reduced the gap to 1.30 now.

adr82

Sagan being tailed off from the break with Gerard

alan_a

Paul 8v wrote:

What's John's surname? Might have to have a butchers at this twitter argument :-)

https://twitter.com/Jono_HB

adr82

Kangert really pushing the pace up front!
Edit: whoops wrong person, Westra!

above_the_cows

Alan A wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

narbs wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

Ooo I'm getting into a Twitter argument with that poetry idiot John over Heineken. He's claiming it as Alsatian because Heineken have an international brewery there. Well they also have a brewery in Rwanda, but that doesn't make them Rwandan.

Congrats, he seems to have admitted defeat.

He really is a plum.

He's a massive plum. Nice avatar by the way.

Crikey he's a much younger plum than I envisaged. I thought he sounded 60ish.

Isn't he, I imagined him sitting there in a cardie sucking on a Werther's Original.

d_o_g

Westra must be there only for Nibs later - is he even doing any work, or is Tommy pulling him along? I'm working from the ticker only here!

alan_a

TV Tommy & Westra have dropped Purito & co

ddraver

Ridgerider wrote:

If ever there was a stage shaped by geology, today is it...

Well I don't need a better excuse to rip off Wikipedia...

The elongated massif is divided south to north into three sections:

The Higher Vosges or High Vosges[2] (Hautes Vosges), extending in the southern part of the range from Belfort to the valley of the Bruche. The rounded summits of the Hautes Vosges are called ballons in French or "balloons".

the sandstone Vosges or Middle Vosges[2] (50 km, or 31 miles), between the Permian Basin of Saint-Die including the Devonian-Dinantian volcanic massif of Schirmeck-Moyenmoutier and the Col de Saverne

the Lower Vosges or Low Vosges[2] (48 km, or 30 miles), between the Col de Saverne and the source of the Lauter.
In addition, the term "Central Vosges" is used to designate the various lines of summits, especially those above 1000 metres in elevation. The French department of Vosges is named after the range.



From a geological point of view, a graben at the beginning of the Paleogene Period caused the formation of Alsace and the uplift of the plates of the Vosges now in eastern France and the Black Forest now in Germany. Strictly speaking scientifically, the Vosges Mountains are not mountains as such, but rather the western edge of the unfinished Alsatian graben, stretching continuously as part of the larger Tertiary formations. Erosive glacial action was the primary means by which the representative highland massif feature developed.

Geographically, the Vosges Mountains are located wholly in France far above the Col de Saverne separating them from the Palatinate Forest in Germany, which logically continues the same Vosges geologic structure but traditionally receives this different name for historical and political reasons.

The Vosges in their southern and central parts are called the Hautes Vosges. These consist of a large Carboniferous mountain eroded just before the Permian Period with gneiss, granites, porphyritic masses or other volcanic intrusions. but in the north, south and west, there are places less eroded by glaciers, and here Vosges Triassic and Permian red sandstone remains in large beds. The grès vosgien, (a French name for a Triassic rose sandstone) are embedded sometimes up to more than 500 metres in thickness. The Lower Vosges in north are dislocated plates of various sandstones, ranging from 300 to 600 metres (1000 to 1850 ft.) high.



The highest points are located in the Hautes Vosges: the Grand Ballon in ancient times called Ballon de Guebwiller or Ballon de Murbach rises to 1424 m (4,670 ft), the Storckenkopf to 1366 m (4,481 ft), the Hohneck to 1364 m (4,475 ft), the Kastelberg to 1350 m (4,429 ft) and the Ballon d'Alsace to 1247 m (4,091 ft). The Col de Saales, between the Higher and Central Vosges, reaches nearly 579 m (1,900 ft), both lower and narrower than the Higher Vosges, with Mont Donon (1008 m, 3307 ft.) being the highest point of this Nordic section.

There is great similarity between the Vosges and the corresponding range of the Black Forest on the other side of the Rhine: both lie within the same degrees of latitude, have similar geological formations and are characterized by forests on their lower slopes, above which are open pastures and rounded summits of a rather uniform altitude; furthermore, both exhibit steeper slopes towards the Rhine and a more gradual descent on the other side. This occurs because both the Vosges and the Black Forest were formed by isostatic uplift, in a response to the opening of the Rhine Graben. The Rhine Graben is a major extensional basin. When such basins form, the thinning of the crust causes uplift immediately adjacent to the basin. The amount of uplift decreases with distance from the basin, causing the highest range of peaks to be immediately adjacent to the basin, and the increasingly lower mountains to stretch away from the basin.

alan_a

Westra doing most of the work

No_Ta_Doctor

D O G wrote:

Westra must be there only for Nibs later - is he even doing any work, or is Tommy pulling him along? I'm working from the ticker only here!

Westra jumped, Tommy chased

above_the_cows

Paul 8v wrote:

What's John's surname? Might have to have a butchers at this twitter argument :-)

What have you done with Arthur, Paul? He's been replaced with hagelslag! And that folks, like Heineken and red trousers is Dutch.

Anyway what's Little Flower up to?

BREAKING NEWS - CHENG now leading the Lanterne! King Edward is cooked.

Paul 8v

Alan A wrote:

Paul 8v wrote:

What's John's surname? Might have to have a butchers at this twitter argument :-)

https://twitter.com/Jono_HB

Merci! He is younger than I thought he sounded!

mfin

Sherwen with all these credit card and bill analogies, he must be chuffed to bits he's got a new load of bôllocks to overuse.

blazing_saddles

Martin should put Kwiatkowski on his back................then he could go quicker.

alan_a

Purito & co have clawed their way back to TV & W

frenchfighter

Nice Castle in that photo.

Impetus from Voeckler has taken their lead to 1.50 and 4.
Coeckler is with Moinard, JRod, Visconti and Westra.

110km to race.

No_Ta_Doctor

Above The Cows wrote:

Paul 8v wrote:

What's John's surname? Might have to have a butchers at this twitter argument :-)

What have you done with Arthur, Paul? He's been replaced with hagelslag! And that folks, like Heineken and red trousers is Dutch.

Anyway what's Little Flower up to?

BREAKING NEWS - CHENG now leading the Lanterne! King Edward is cooked.

:-(

adr82

Greipel makes it back to the front of the peloton! And starts pulling immediately

tailwindhome

Just tuning in now.

Sagan on the attack and Greipel leading the peleton

Oooo....kay....