2015 Gear

frenchfighter

2015 Bell StarPro

Pokerface

[quote="coriordan"Is Liquigas-cannondale even a team going forward?[/quote]

Well, it hasn't been Liquigas all this year. But Cannondale isn't a team next year.

frenchfighter

Cipo Nuke TT bike is coming out at Eurobike. There will be one of those short movies again.

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Best close-up I've seen. There are Horner's:

mfin

P5 2015



R5 2015

R2 (R3 with different fork for more clearance) (...more importantly you could buy an R2Di2 )


S2

P3

P2

S3 (changed colour at all??)

S5


Cervelo branded Castelli Clothing...

Pokerface

All the Cervelo bikes are basically unchanged for 2015. Just new paint jobs and spec for complete bikes. Their level of innovation has really dropped since Phil White and Gerald Vroomen sold the company.

frenchfighter

CAAD10

FocusZing

FocusZing

frenchfighter wrote:

CAAD10

The traditional geometry looks good, I wonder what weight it comes in at?

rob churchill

Pross wrote:

I'd love to try one of those wooden bikes just to see how they feel. What does he use for the braking surface on the rims though?

Back when all rims were wood with wood braking surfaces, brake pads were made of cork. On a long descent they'd scorch black.

No idea how they performed in the wet, but could it have been any worse than leather/rubber blocks on chromed steel rims?

greasedscotsman

mfin wrote:

R2 (R3 with different fork for more clearance) (...more importantly you could buy an R2Di2 )

Ooh, this is interesting. As I can't get an R3 Mud, this will do nicely as a Roubaix bike!

Pross

FocusZing wrote:

We have a winner!

thomthom

frenchfighter wrote:

CAAD10

Now, this is a bike.

Pokerface

madasahattersley wrote:

Pokerface wrote:

All the Cervelo bikes are basically unchanged for 2015. Just new paint jobs and spec for complete bikes. Their level of innovation has really dropped since Phil White and Gerald Vroomen sold the company.

The R2, P2, S2 and S3 are all either brand new or were released part way through last years run. I think 4 new models is pretty good going for innovation! There would be no point ending production of the new P2/S2/S3 so soon just for the sake of improving the design.

Yes - they are basically last year's models. And while some of them feature trickle-down technology from higher-up models, Cervelo as a brand has not introduced much in the way of innovation for several years now. Just tweaks on existing models. Again- this goes back to the founders not spending the time pushing the envelope with them any more.

frenchfighter

I agree with Pokerface. They used to be pretty unique and now they look proper ugly and are not exciting.

frenchfighter

No the Italians do not do it better. These are worse than most of Adam's nikes:


Oakley Jawbreaker 2015 Prototype

frenchfighter

Focus 2015:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/photos/ ... ross-bikes

philbar72

ThomThom wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

CAAD10

Now, this is a bike.

agreed. its out of this and the canyon for the best alloy bike out there. nothing comes close in my view.

dennisn

philbar72 wrote:

ThomThom wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

CAAD10

Now, this is a bike.

agreed. its out of this and the canyon for the best alloy bike out there. nothing comes close in my view.

Are you speaking about style or function? :?

lostboysaint

frenchfighter wrote:

I agree with Pokerface. They used to be pretty unique and now they look proper ugly and are not exciting.

That.

philbar72

dennisn wrote:

philbar72 wrote:

ThomThom wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

CAAD10

Now, this is a bike.

agreed. its out of this and the canyon for the best alloy bike out there. nothing comes close in my view.

Are you speaking about style or function? :?

That looks great and a friend has one in the old white/green/blue works colours, it goes pretty damned well.

So both... Another friend has the canyon and that goes pretty well as well.

Paul 8v

frenchfighter wrote:

No the Italians do not do it better. These are worse than most of Adam's nikes:

Early 90's football boot?

dennisn

Paul 8v wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

No the Italians do not do it better. These are worse than most of Adam's nikes:

Early 90's football boot?

I'm confused(really). If this is NOT great styling, what is? Pictures please. :?

type:epyt

^ Btwin, apparently.

mfin

dennisn wrote:

Paul 8v wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

No the Italians do not do it better. These are worse than most of Adam's nikes:

Early 90's football boot?

I'm confused(really). If this is NOT great styling, what is? Pictures please. :?

You can see over an hour and a half of video of them if you watch The Amazing Spider-Man.

dennisn

mfin wrote:

dennisn wrote:

Paul 8v wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

No the Italians do not do it better. These are worse than most of Adam's nikes:

Early 90's football boot?

I'm confused(really). If this is NOT great styling, what is? Pictures please. :?

You can see over an hour and a half of video of them if you watch The Amazing Spider-Man.

Got to admit I wasn't thinking in those terms. I guess at 65 understanding good and bad fashion is just not all that possible anymore. :oops:
I have to rely on my wife to recommend glasses frames for me so I don't look too much like a dork(at least in her opinion).

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mfin

madasahattersley wrote:

I don't really see how they could have innovated much more in the space of 3 years!

I have to say I am with madasahattersley on this one. Cervelo have been known to keep frames pretty much the same for years, R3, S1, S2, P2, P3 etc, but now they seem to have had their skates on again. Ok, so this year doesn't see so much changing, but they don't need to come out with complete new model revisions every year, if a bike was developed properly it should be able to sit in the market well for a few years anyway.

Pokerface

madasahattersley wrote:

I don't really see how they could have innovated much more in the space of 3 years!

There's has been a lot of shuffling around of technology in their bikes. I just feel there has been a lack of the innovation in recent years. Not saying they aren't good bikes, just that not a LOT has changed. It's more a matter of some frames have benefitted from newer technology but not a whole lot new has been introduced. (Like the P3 is just a cheaper version of the P5. The R5 almost the same as the old R5 - but with new tube shaping from the Rca, etc).

Don't want to clog the thread up any more - as you made good points in your last post.

dennisn

mfin wrote:

madasahattersley wrote:

I don't really see how they could have innovated much more in the space of 3 years!

.... if a bike was developed properly it should be able to sit in the market well for a few years anyway.

Lugged steel bikes go way, way, way, back and they still sell well and seem to "...sit in the market..." very well. All that AND a design that hasn't changed much, if at all.

mfin

dennisn wrote:

mfin wrote:

madasahattersley wrote:

I don't really see how they could have innovated much more in the space of 3 years!

.... if a bike was developed properly it should be able to sit in the market well for a few years anyway.

Lugged steel bikes go way, way, way, back and they still sell well and seem to "...sit in the market..." very well. All that AND a design that hasn't changed much, if at all.

Yes, but you know that is a different point to that of the ongoing development and marketing of carbon monocoque bikes Dennis.