2015 Gear

FocusZing

Ber Nard wrote:

FocusZing wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised to see electric gears have one shifter soon, crossovers trapped out with the front derailleur changing automatically. Reliability would have to be spot on though with some kind of fail safe.

Already done. Shimano XTR Di2 Syncro shift.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZGuwhSLcJU

Rob

Cheers, lots of possibilities with electric. Ummmmmm...

SCR Pedro

Those new Look frames are ugly to me. I hope the style doesn't catch on. Those Argons are very nice, however.

Ber Nard

I'd like to see the Look with the stem dropped to horizontal. I reckon it would look (excuse the pun) a lot better. I still want one.

Pokerface

Ber Nard wrote:

I'd like to see the Look with the stem dropped to horizontal. I reckon it would look (excuse the pun) a lot better. I still want one.

Nope. Still looks fugly:

specialgueststar

Pokerface wrote:

Ber Nard wrote:

I'd like to see the Look with the stem dropped to horizontal. I reckon it would look (excuse the pun) a lot better. I still want one.

Nope. Still looks fugly:

I'm not so sure - but the seat tube looks out of balance all black - if they coloured it differently there -

dish_dash

SpecialGuestStar wrote:

Pokerface wrote:

Ber Nard wrote:

I'd like to see the Look with the stem dropped to horizontal. I reckon it would look (excuse the pun) a lot better. I still want one.

Nope. Still looks fugly:

I'm not so sure - but the seat tube looks out of balance all black - if they coloured it differently there -

It looks like a giraffe!

Ber Nard

Pokerface wrote:

Ber Nard wrote:

I'd like to see the Look with the stem dropped to horizontal. I reckon it would look (excuse the pun) a lot better. I still want one.

Nope. Still looks fugly:

I like it!

Pross

SpecialGuestStar wrote:

Pokerface wrote:

Ber Nard wrote:

I'd like to see the Look with the stem dropped to horizontal. I reckon it would look (excuse the pun) a lot better. I still want one.

Nope. Still looks fugly:

I'm not so sure - but the seat tube looks out of balance all black - if they coloured it differently there -

What's that saying about silk purses and sows ears (or polishing turds)?

salsiccia1

And to think they used to make bikes like this



For shame.

FocusZing

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Pokerface

It's a shame. The Look is bordering on being a really great aero road bike. If the head tube wasn't so tall, then it would do it for me. I suppose this would negate some f the aero effect though. It's similar in starter to the Cervelo S5

benmac75

SpecialGuestStar wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Argon 18 Nitrogen

oooh - I'm looking for a new bike for next year (already - as I 'made do this year') - that is definitely in the line up
I find I'm going more for functionality than flair - Argon is Canadian? - I always think Swiss/Austrian for some reason.
what are those brakes?

They look like TRP TTVs. I have them on my Argon E116 and I was somewhat surprised at how well they worked the first time I really hammered them.

Crozza

madasahattersley wrote:

I think if they simply joined the top tube to the seat tube higher and made the head tube shorter it would look totes amazeballs. The integrated stem thingy alone is brilliant and looks incredible, just the rest of the frame doesn't!

I cannot fathom why they didn't do just this

dennisn

If I didn't know better I'd say I was reading and looking at a fashion magazine. Lovely this, lovely that, smooth flowing lines, impeccable presentation, etc. So all this is not about new things in cycling but a simple fashion statement? :? Once cycling becomes fashionable I'm gonna have to quit riding. No way will I spend money on something simply because it looks good. I want function, not pretty / showoff/ bling.

Ber Nard

I don't think the effective head tube length is that long compared to most other road bikes, it's just that the design of the frame makes the stem appear to be part of the head tube. Much lower at the front and it would probably be as low as a TT frame (and put off the mamils who have the money to buy one). Similarly, if the top tube met the seat tube much higher, I think the stand over height for a given size might be a bit extreme.

I suppose the top tube design is an unfortunate trade off for integrating the stem and maintaining a decent riding position.

lawrences

Imagining a Look with a horizontal top tube. That's doing it for me.

DiscoBoy

dennisn wrote:

Once cycling becomes fashionable I'm gonna have to quit riding.

So you have quit, then?

dennisn

DiscoBoy wrote:

dennisn wrote:

Once cycling becomes fashionable I'm gonna have to quit riding.

So you have quit, then?

I guess I've always thought that people ride bikes because they like to, because they get them from point to point, because they like racing / competition, because they need the exercise, etc. Call me weird if you will but I've never thought of cycling becoming something that people do to look cool, showoff, act like something they're not, etc. However it's starting to appear that I'm really, really, wrong in more ways than one. Everybody seems to be talking about how "fashionable" this or that bike component or piece of clothing looks. Almost as if they cruised the same boulevarde everyday showing off and hoping to be noticed. :oops:

Paul 8v

bikes have to look good as well as go well, you wouldn't want to spend all that money on something that looked awful. (I like the LOOKs by the way, they're a bit different)

Pross

Ber Nard wrote:

I don't think the effective head tube length is that long compared to most other road bikes, it's just that the design of the frame makes the stem appear to be part of the head tube. Much lower at the front and it would probably be as low as a TT frame (and put off the mamils who have the money to buy one). Similarly, if the top tube met the seat tube much higher, I think the stand over height for a given size might be a bit extreme.

I suppose the top tube design is an unfortunate trade off for integrating the stem and maintaining a decent riding position.

Yep, that was my thought. It would be too extreme a drop for the vast majority of buyers. The head tube needs to compensate for the lack of visible steerer and stack. It's not really a viable bike for the vast majority of potential buyers in any case.

greasedscotsman

dennisn wrote:

Call me weird....

You're weird!

dennisn

Pross wrote:

Ber Nard wrote:

I don't think the effective head tube length is that long compared to most other road bikes, it's just that the design of the frame makes the stem appear to be part of the head tube. Much lower at the front and it would probably be as low as a TT frame (and put off the mamils who have the money to buy one). Similarly, if the top tube met the seat tube much higher, I think the stand over height for a given size might be a bit extreme.

I suppose the top tube design is an unfortunate trade off for integrating the stem and maintaining a decent riding position.

Yep, that was my thought. It would be too extreme a drop for the vast majority of buyers. The head tube needs to compensate for the lack of visible steerer and stack. It's not really a viable bike for the vast majority of potential buyers in any case.

Just to play devils advocate. I think it IS a "viable bike for the vast......". If you look at it from the point of view of pretentious buyers(and there are bunches) well this is THE bike that will make them faster, look good doing it, show the rest of the cycling world that they know what it's all about, etc., even if they don't have a clue.

frenchfighter

Trek Domane Koppenberg

Frameset = $4,199.99

Ber Nard

That makes a lot of sense to me, more so than the current crop of aero bikes. A shame that, judging by the price and limited sizes, it seems Trek have only released it to stay within the UCI's rules.

Paul 8v

frenchfighter wrote:

Trek Domane Koppenberg

Frameset = $4,199.99

Where's that lottery ticket, I NEED this :-)

frenchfighter

Gear from the Tour TT:
http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/08/ ... nce_339211

Team Sky need a printout on how to warm-up:

dennisn

frenchfighter wrote:

Gear from the Tour TT:
http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/08/ ... nce_339211

Team Sky need a printout on how to warm-up:

Maybe it was posted more as a sort of restraint to remind riders not to overdo the warm up.
Just because they are pro's doesn't mean they don't need a bit of direction. :?

ddraver

FocusZing wrote:

Ber Nard wrote:

FocusZing wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised to see electric gears have one shifter soon, crossovers trapped out with the front derailleur changing automatically. Reliability would have to be spot on though with some kind of fail safe.

Already done. Shimano XTR Di2 Syncro shift.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZGuwhSLcJU

Rob

Cheers, lots of possibilities with electric. Ummmmmm...

SRAM talking about having just 2 buttons, one on each side of the bars for Up and Down too...

FocusZing

ddraver wrote:

FocusZing wrote:

Ber Nard wrote:

FocusZing wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised to see electric gears have one shifter soon, crossovers trapped out with the front derailleur changing automatically. Reliability would have to be spot on though with some kind of fail safe.

Already done. Shimano XTR Di2 Syncro shift.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZGuwhSLcJU

Rob

Cheers, lots of possibilities with electric. Ummmmmm...

SRAM talking about having just 2 buttons, one on each side of the bars for Up and Down too...

That sounds good, flexible solar cells built into bike frames soon to charge batteries powering all the tech.

lostboysaint

dennisn wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Gear from the Tour TT:
http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/08/ ... nce_339211

Team Sky need a printout on how to warm-up:

Maybe it was posted more as a sort of restraint to remind riders not to overdo the warm up.
Just because they are pro's doesn't mean they don't need a bit of direction. :?

Makes you wonder why Real Madrid bother paying Carlo Ancelotti and his staff all that money, or Usain Bolt has a coach doesn't it. Surely they should just rock up and perform.