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Some SRAM wireless shifting goodness here: http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/08/in-the-wild-sram-wireless-electronic-groupset/
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Seems odd that the rear mech has what appears to be a cable stop on it, especially as it seems to be attached to a part that appears to have been made specifically for the electronic version. Doesn't look like you'd plug a wire in to it either.0
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Ber Nard wrote:Seems odd that the rear mech has what appears to be a cable stop on it, especially as it seems to be attached to a part that appears to have been made specifically for the electronic version. Doesn't look like you'd plug a wire in to it either.
Looking closely, it is hex-shaped on the inside of that piece. So not a ferrule or cablestop. Either an adjustment screw or it's holding something in place!0 -
Pokerface wrote:Ber Nard wrote:Seems odd that the rear mech has what appears to be a cable stop on it, especially as it seems to be attached to a part that appears to have been made specifically for the electronic version. Doesn't look like you'd plug a wire in to it either.
Looking closely, it is hex-shaped on the inside of that piece. So not a ferrule or cablestop. Either and adjustment screw or it's holding something in place!
Good point. Looking at it again, I wonder if it's holding the battery in place? Looks like you could undo it and slide the battery upwards.0 -
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^ Not sure I'd want to be spending the amount of money that build would cost on a frame with relatively basic r&d. I know they price well but the frame is the only part where the margins are any better than other manufacturers putting a bike together so something has got to be giving.Life is unfair, kill yourself or get over it.0
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Hmm I disagree to a certain extent. The frame is a pretty good one and is significantly cheaper then like for like. For instance their R872 is the same as De Rosa bike. The De Rosa is twice as expensive somply because it has De Rosa on the side and not Ribble. I like the frame and fork other than the front end.Contador is the Greatest0
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frenchfighter wrote:Hmm I disagree to a certain extent. The frame is a pretty good one and is significantly cheaper then like for like. For instance their R872 is the same as De Rosa bike. The De Rosa is twice as expensive somply because it has De Rosa on the side and not Ribble. I like the frame and fork other than the front end.
I agree about the De Rosa stuff, and that's why I wouldn't buy one. A cheap bike is fine for a beginner but you'd still likely be better with a manufacturer using trickle-down tech/r&d than a random mould.Life is unfair, kill yourself or get over it.0 -
Don't get that logic - you wouldn't buy a bike at half the price of another?! The frame is not a cheap/beginner one either. Many brands just use similar moulds and have piggy-backed off the powerhouses that actually have the money for r&d. I contacted Ribble about the R872 and they led me to believe they had a major involvement in designing that frame but who knows.Contador is the Greatest0
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With feedback from their Pro-Tour sponsored Lotto-Belisol team, Ridley has developed an evolution of their Noah FAST aero bike concept into the professional-level Noah SL
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Some stuff from Berk.
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Oakley to sponsor Tinkoff next year.Contador is the Greatest0
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frenchfighter wrote:Don't get that logic - you wouldn't buy a bike at half the price of another?! The frame is not a cheap/beginner one either. Many brands just use similar moulds and have piggy-backed off the powerhouses that actually have the money for r&d. I contacted Ribble about the R872 and they led me to believe they had a major involvement in designing that frame but who knows.
Liken it to buying say, a shirt. If I went into a shop and they sold 2 shirts exactly the same but one had a different label and a little emblem embroidered onto the pocket but was 3 times the price, I'd buy neither. Why? I would have no faith/desire in a product that was exactly the same as another in real terms. If a brand can't put enough faith into making a unique product then where else have they cut corners, either with the product or service you receive.
Mind you, half the 'unique' products on this page are bloody awful so maybe you are best just buying simple but effective.Life is unfair, kill yourself or get over it.0 -
type:epyt wrote:frenchfighter wrote:Don't get that logic - you wouldn't buy a bike at half the price of another?! The frame is not a cheap/beginner one either. Many brands just use similar moulds and have piggy-backed off the powerhouses that actually have the money for r&d. I contacted Ribble about the R872 and they led me to believe they had a major involvement in designing that frame but who knows.
Liken it to buying say, a shirt. If I went into a shop and they sold 2 shirts exactly the same but one had a different label and a little emblem embroidered onto the pocket but was 3 times the price, I'd buy neither. Why? I would have no faith/desire in a product that was exactly the same as another in real terms. If a brand can't put enough faith into making a unique product then where else have they cut corners, either with the product or service you receive.
Mind you, half the 'unique' products on this page are bloody awful so maybe you are best just buying simple but effective.
If everyone had a unique design/mould the pricing would probably be in accessible and there would be no cheap entry bikes that look any good.Scott Addict 2011
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frenchfighter wrote:I contacted Ribble about the R872 and they led me to believe they had a major involvement in designing that frame but who knows.
When someone like RIbble says they had major involvement in designing what amounts to an open-mould frame, what they mean is, they picked the colours it comes in, and exactly how cheap a carbon layup they want to use.0 -
Markwb79 wrote:
If everyone had a unique design/mould the pricing would probably be in accessible and there would be no cheap entry bikes that look any good.
That's the beauty of trickle-down tech ... from frames, to wheels and groupo's there's loads of good, cheap-ish products that have tech from older (and sometimes newer) products from which the consumer benefits. Only benefit of 'mouldy' frames is the price.Life is unfair, kill yourself or get over it.0 -
type:epyt wrote:frenchfighter wrote:Don't get that logic - you wouldn't buy a bike at half the price of another?! The frame is not a cheap/beginner one either. Many brands just use similar moulds and have piggy-backed off the powerhouses that actually have the money for r&d. I contacted Ribble about the R872 and they led me to believe they had a major involvement in designing that frame but who knows.
Liken it to buying say, a shirt. If I went into a shop and they sold 2 shirts exactly the same but one had a different label and a little emblem embroidered onto the pocket but was 3 times the price, I'd buy neither. Why? I would have no faith/desire in a product that was exactly the same as another in real terms. If a brand can't put enough faith into making a unique product then where else have they cut corners, either with the product or service you receive.
Mind you, half the 'unique' products on this page are bloody awful so maybe you are best just buying simple but effective.
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type:epyt wrote:Markwb79 wrote:
If everyone had a unique design/mould the pricing would probably be in accessible and there would be no cheap entry bikes that look any good.
That's the beauty of trickle-down tech ... from frames, to wheels and groupo's there's loads of good, cheap-ish products that have tech from older (and sometimes newer) products from which the consumer benefits. Only benefit of 'mouldy' frames is the price.
Got to disagree with that.
You say that as if the 'mouldy' frames are just some guy making it up as they go along.
I would suggest that 'mouldy' frames are designed by using exactly the trickle down approach you just mentioned.Scott Addict 2011
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SpecialGuestStar wrote:frenchfighter wrote:
Its the R872. The colours on the De Rosa hide the lines but you can see it fairly clearly. Checking the geometry figures match.
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I believe they are the same mould but not the same layup0
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Paul 8v wrote:I believe they are the same mould but not the same layup
Why would they use a different layup in the same mould? You already have something that works, the manufacturer(and the mould) are already geared to do it that way, the research(if you will) is already in place. Why bother to work up a new procedure? :?0 -
Good, I wasn't a fan of thier current glasses as much as Oakleyfrenchfighter wrote:Oakley to sponsor Tinkoff next year.0 -
Sorry I meant a different grade of Carbon/Resin.dennisn wrote:Paul 8v wrote:I believe they are the same mould but not the same layup
Why would they use a different layup in the same mould? You already have something that works, the manufacturer(and the mould) are already geared to do it that way, the research(if you will) is already in place. Why bother to work up a new procedure? :?0 -
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