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  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    I can see Dowsett having another go next season to be honest but a lot will depend on Wiggo - if Wiggo sets something Dowsett thinks he can crack then of course he'll want to give it a go. If Wiggo does something stupid next month however, Dowsett will be parking the idea for a few years til he matures.
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  • Paul 8v
    Paul 8v Posts: 5,458
    I reckon he'll be at the E21/10 tomorrow. I was reading an interview with him and he was saying him and his Dad are always looking for ways to go faster on it and he's on the form of his life at the moment, he won't be able to resist!
  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    Paul 8v wrote:
    I reckon he'll be at the E21/10 tomorrow. I was reading an interview with him and he was saying him and his Dad are always looking for ways to go faster on it and he's on the form of his life at the moment, he won't be able to resist!
    I agree - however "the form of his life" still means losing a minute or more to the likes of Wiggo and Martin in a 50km+ ITT.
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  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    http://road.cc/content/news/150249-brad ... ing-hands-£300-each

    Should have bought a couple more tickets! :D
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Paul 8v wrote:
    I reckon he'll be at the E21/10 tomorrow. I was reading an interview with him and he was saying him and his Dad are always looking for ways to go faster on it and he's on the form of his life at the moment, he won't be able to resist!

    Well Wiggins is going for it on the 16th so he should get in there now; It's all very weather dependent though isn't. Its blowing a gale here right now.
  • JackPozzi
    JackPozzi Posts: 1,191
    inseine wrote:
    Paul 8v wrote:
    I reckon he'll be at the E21/10 tomorrow. I was reading an interview with him and he was saying him and his Dad are always looking for ways to go faster on it and he's on the form of his life at the moment, he won't be able to resist!

    Well Wiggins is going for it on the 16th so he should get in there now; It's all very weather dependent though isn't. Its blowing a gale here right now.

    If Alex can get within 2 minutes of comp record on the E21 it will be a fantastic ride! Can't remember exactly but think his best (and course record) is a long 19?
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,188
    E21/10 Alex Dowsett 19.51 2010
    apparently
    http://www.cttlondoneast.org.uk/page36.html
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    JackPozzi wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    Paul 8v wrote:
    I reckon he'll be at the E21/10 tomorrow. I was reading an interview with him and he was saying him and his Dad are always looking for ways to go faster on it and he's on the form of his life at the moment, he won't be able to resist!

    Well Wiggins is going for it on the 16th so he should get in there now; It's all very weather dependent though isn't. Its blowing a gale here right now.

    If Alex can get within 2 minutes of comp record on the E21 it will be a fantastic ride! Can't remember exactly but think his best (and course record) is a long 19?

    according to Strava he did 19.31 but I'm sure it's not mm accurate. 1.20 ahead of anyone else.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Apparently he had new discs that only weighed 800grams and a special new skinsuit from Endura.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642

    It is amazing the adulation he gets form one who really couldn't give two hoots about his fans. Other than him being British and successful in a variety of areas I really, really struggle to see how anyone could be a fan.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,701
    inseine wrote:
    JackPozzi wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    Paul 8v wrote:
    I reckon he'll be at the E21/10 tomorrow. I was reading an interview with him and he was saying him and his Dad are always looking for ways to go faster on it and he's on the form of his life at the moment, he won't be able to resist!

    Well Wiggins is going for it on the 16th so he should get in there now; It's all very weather dependent though isn't. Its blowing a gale here right now.

    If Alex can get within 2 minutes of comp record on the E21 it will be a fantastic ride! Can't remember exactly but think his best (and course record) is a long 19?

    according to Strava he did 19.31 but I'm sure it's not mm accurate. 1.20 ahead of anyone else.

    He's got a 19.14 from last summer
    http://www.madcc.org.uk/images/Resultsh ... 072014.pdf
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  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976

    It is amazing the adulation he gets form one who really couldn't give two hoots about his fans. Other than him being British and successful in a variety of areas I really, really struggle to see how anyone could be a fan.
    I struggle to understand how some people are fans of drug cheats.

    Different strokes.....
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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Apparently he had new discs that only weighed 800grams and a special new skinsuit from Endura.

    They tested a huge number of skin suit options. Amazing it makes so much difference, but it's about aero, comfort and cooling so I guess it's worth it.
  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    inseine wrote:
    JackPozzi wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    Paul 8v wrote:
    I reckon he'll be at the E21/10 tomorrow. I was reading an interview with him and he was saying him and his Dad are always looking for ways to go faster on it and he's on the form of his life at the moment, he won't be able to resist!

    Well Wiggins is going for it on the 16th so he should get in there now; It's all very weather dependent though isn't. Its blowing a gale here right now.

    If Alex can get within 2 minutes of comp record on the E21 it will be a fantastic ride! Can't remember exactly but think his best (and course record) is a long 19?

    according to Strava he did 19.31 but I'm sure it's not mm accurate. 1.20 ahead of anyone else.

    He's got a 19.14 from last summer
    http://www.madcc.org.uk/images/Resultsh ... 072014.pdf
    Pretty hilarious that Wiggo gets to ride this 10miler in Hull because he is effectively regarded as a beginner due to being out of the scene for so long.
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  • Paul 8v
    Paul 8v Posts: 5,458
    I was there when he did the 19:14. It's not a quick course, if he was going for the record he'd do that on the E2 where he got the 10' record, it's just he really enjoys the E21/10. He wasn't there today as it was windy as hell. My time was way off as it was like riding in to a wall on the way back and on the tops of the hills the wind was chucking the bike all over the place! He wouldn't risk the injury. Maybe next week :-)
  • Paul 8v
    Paul 8v Posts: 5,458
    inseine wrote:
    JackPozzi wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    Paul 8v wrote:
    I reckon he'll be at the E21/10 tomorrow. I was reading an interview with him and he was saying him and his Dad are always looking for ways to go faster on it and he's on the form of his life at the moment, he won't be able to resist!

    Well Wiggins is going for it on the 16th so he should get in there now; It's all very weather dependent though isn't. Its blowing a gale here right now.

    If Alex can get within 2 minutes of comp record on the E21 it will be a fantastic ride! Can't remember exactly but think his best (and course record) is a long 19?

    according to Strava he did 19.31 but I'm sure it's not mm accurate. 1.20 ahead of anyone else.

    He's got a 19.14 from last summer
    http://www.madcc.org.uk/images/Resultsh ... 072014.pdf

    Haha, he did me for 7:40 that night! I'm faster now but tonight was not a quick night!
  • RoadPainter
    RoadPainter Posts: 375
    I was thinking about LA's participation in Geoff Thomas's pre-Tour ride and his desire to be relevant again.

    What's stopping him doing an hour? Obviously it wouldn't be ratified but he could get a lot of media on it. As it wouldn't be a legal attempt, presumably he could EPO himself up to go further than anyone else ever has.

    Now, I know this is a ridiculous idea, but that often passes for sense in LA world.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,264
    I was thinking about LA's participation in Geoff Thomas's pre-Tour ride and his desire to be relevant again.

    What's stopping him doing an hour? Obviously it wouldn't be ratified but he could get a lot of media on it. As it wouldn't be a legal attempt, presumably he could EPO himself up to go further than anyone else ever has.

    Now, I know this is a ridiculous idea, but that often passes for sense in LA world.
    I doubt he'd even beat Voigt's over 40s record these days. He won't to do anything which sees him fail.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Wiggo fans, I hope you like his arrogance:

    “It sounds a bit horrible to say but I could break the record tomorrow. But I don’t just want to break it, I want to put it right up there, as far out of reach as I can,” Wiggins told The Times. “I’ve got 55km in my head and I think it’s realistic. And I think if I do it, it will stand for 20 years.”
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  • Ashbeck
    Ashbeck Posts: 235
    Wiggo fans, I hope you like his arrogance:

    “It sounds a bit horrible to say but I could break the record tomorrow. But I don’t just want to break it, I want to put it right up there, as far out of reach as I can,” Wiggins told The Times. “I’ve got 55km in my head and I think it’s realistic. And I think if I do it, it will stand for 20 years.”

    Arrogance or just honesty?

    I actually agree with him (apart from maybe doing it tomorrow). I think he has the ability to set a benchmark that none of the others, except maybe Tony Martin, could get anywhere near. Mentally, if he sets 54 or 55, thats going to be tough for any rider following him to beat. It doesn't sound much when you say it quick...52..to..55, but in terms of the mentality needed from a rider to up their game physically, it may as well be 100kms. It's a bit like Mike Tyson, he beat most of his opponents before they even entered the ring, Wiggo could do the same.

    Dowsett could beat 53, I have no doubt. But if Wiggo comes along and does 55, then Dowsett won't beat that and he knows it, as much as i like the guy.

    I think Wiggo's just being honest.
  • RoadPainter
    RoadPainter Posts: 375
    RichN95 wrote:
    I was thinking about LA's participation in Geoff Thomas's pre-Tour ride and his desire to be relevant again.

    What's stopping him doing an hour? Obviously it wouldn't be ratified but he could get a lot of media on it. As it wouldn't be a legal attempt, presumably he could EPO himself up to go further than anyone else ever has.

    Now, I know this is a ridiculous idea, but that often passes for sense in LA world.
    I doubt he'd even beat Voigt's over 40s record these days. He won't to do anything which sees him fail.
    I agree, if he's clean. But if he was fully EPO'd up, I think he could beat the current record (maybe not Wiggo's imminent new record)
  • ozzzyosborn206
    ozzzyosborn206 Posts: 1,340
    RichN95 wrote:
    I was thinking about LA's participation in Geoff Thomas's pre-Tour ride and his desire to be relevant again.

    What's stopping him doing an hour? Obviously it wouldn't be ratified but he could get a lot of media on it. As it wouldn't be a legal attempt, presumably he could EPO himself up to go further than anyone else ever has.

    Now, I know this is a ridiculous idea, but that often passes for sense in LA world.
    I doubt he'd even beat Voigt's over 40s record these days. He won't to do anything which sees him fail.
    I agree, if he's clean. But if he was fully EPO'd up, I think he could beat the current record (maybe not Wiggo's imminent new record)

    you do know that injecting himself with EPO won't suddenly make him super fast again, its the ability to recover quicker and therefore do massive blocks of training that makes it beneficial for a one off event so he would need to get on it now, train for a few months then hit it.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,264
    RichN95 wrote:
    I was thinking about LA's participation in Geoff Thomas's pre-Tour ride and his desire to be relevant again.

    What's stopping him doing an hour? Obviously it wouldn't be ratified but he could get a lot of media on it. As it wouldn't be a legal attempt, presumably he could EPO himself up to go further than anyone else ever has.

    Now, I know this is a ridiculous idea, but that often passes for sense in LA world.
    I doubt he'd even beat Voigt's over 40s record these days. He won't to do anything which sees him fail.
    I agree, if he's clean. But if he was fully EPO'd up, I think he could beat the current record (maybe not Wiggo's imminent new record)
    I don't think so. He's 43 and looks every minute of it, and has raced a bike for four years. EPO's a drug, not a magic potion.
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  • mike6
    mike6 Posts: 1,199
    I would have liked to have seen Wiggo have a go at the old Merckx record that Boardman broke. If Boardmand had not been ill imagine how far he could have gone. :D
  • ai_1
    ai_1 Posts: 3,060
    Ashbeck wrote:
    Wiggo fans, I hope you like his arrogance:

    “It sounds a bit horrible to say but I could break the record tomorrow. But I don’t just want to break it, I want to put it right up there, as far out of reach as I can,” Wiggins told The Times. “I’ve got 55km in my head and I think it’s realistic. And I think if I do it, it will stand for 20 years.”

    Arrogance or just honesty?

    I actually agree with him (apart from maybe doing it tomorrow). I think he has the ability to set a benchmark that none of the others, except maybe Tony Martin, could get anywhere near.....
    He may, in part, be trying to psych himself up but there's some arrogance there too alright.
    Why, arrogance aside, would he expect to set a record likely to last 20 years? He may (or may not) be the best of this generation but he reckons he's better than the next couple of generations too. Besides, given the regs now allow contemporary track legal bikes, there's some scope for bike improvement too assuming UCI don't change things yet again and expunge this current set of records.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Tempted to put a spread bet on he won't get over 55km.
  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    RichN95 wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    I was thinking about LA's participation in Geoff Thomas's pre-Tour ride and his desire to be relevant again.

    What's stopping him doing an hour? Obviously it wouldn't be ratified but he could get a lot of media on it. As it wouldn't be a legal attempt, presumably he could EPO himself up to go further than anyone else ever has.

    Now, I know this is a ridiculous idea, but that often passes for sense in LA world.
    I doubt he'd even beat Voigt's over 40s record these days. He won't to do anything which sees him fail.
    I agree, if he's clean. But if he was fully EPO'd up, I think he could beat the current record (maybe not Wiggo's imminent new record)
    I don't think so. He's 43 and looks every minute of it, and has raced a bike for four years. EPO's a drug, not a magic potion.

    This, in spades. He wasn't a shade of his old self on his comeback Tour, and that was half a decade ago.
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  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    Wiggins has a big ego, but I don't think talking about how far he wants to set the bar is arrogant.

    The hour record is just you against the clock. There's no opponent to 'respect'. It takes a lot of psychological will to keep pushing on for kilometer after kilometer even though your legs are screaming and one part of your mind is telling you to forget about it.

    When weightlifters attempt to lift their record they aren't thinking "I'll give this a decent go, but if it doesn't happen I'm not too bothered." They're thinking "I'm going to absolutely destroy this."

    This is just the TT equivalent. He's also known to be partial to a bit more media attention.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,264
    Wiggins is only saying the exact same things that everyone else has been saying for the last six months.
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  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    Of course he could break the hour record tomorrow. As for it standing for 20 years - unlikely, and I really hope not.
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