RIP Paul Walker

smidsy

NapoleonD wrote:

Also,

RIP to the passenger too, who wasn't famous.

Walker, 40, was a passenger in a Porsche sports car driven by a friend - who also died - when it crashed north of Los Angeles

Or were you Joking Nap?

pinno

Lets put this into context.
There were thousdands of people in the Philipines who died recently. Whole lives wiped away. There are thousands of them now struggling to put their lives back together, drink fresh water and eat.
One sort of famous guy, who probably had a great life, cushty lifestyle and a good income, dies in a car accident. I don't know him. I cannot claim to be remorseful bar the thought that he leaves a grieving familly behind.

As was said before, the F&F films hardly promoted responsible driving and how many budding street racers were motivated by such films and caused indirectly, who knows what in terms of accidents, harm, noise polution and intimidation?

bianchimoon

Colinthecop wrote:

seanoconn wrote:

arran77 wrote:

seanoconn wrote:

arran77 wrote:

seanoconn wrote:

arran77 wrote:

seanoconn wrote:

Colinthecop wrote:

Lots of people die everyday.

Do we note to quote all these people in a quote...?

It makes no sense. :roll:

Well it might if you can be arsed, but I just can't. Life is too short. I might die tomorrow and if I do there had bloody well better be a thread on here about it. 8)

Seems a shame that you could potentially miss out on it, I could start a new Pre-RIP one if you would like?

thegreatdivide

Rigga wrote:

thegreatdivide wrote:

A police helicopter fell out of the sky and crashed into a packed Glasgow pub. Just saying like...

Anyone who ends a post with 'just saying' deserves to be shot!

Ban him mods.

daviesee

seanoconn wrote:

daviesee wrote:

My friend of 35 years died last month.

Should I have started a thread?



PS:- Nearly had a typo. Scary how by only omitting an "R" that friend becomes fiend. :shock:

Was he or his death newsworthy?

Made the local press.

arran77 wrote:

If you want to?

Maybe because we feel we 'know' you by posting on here we should feel a great loss on your behalf

Someone care's. I am touched.

pinno

bianchimoon wrote:

Colinthecop wrote:

seanoconn wrote:

arran77 wrote:

seanoconn wrote:

arran77 wrote:

seanoconn wrote:

arran77 wrote:

seanoconn wrote:

Colinthecop wrote:

Lots of people die everyday.

Do we note to quote all these people in a quote...?

It makes no sense. :roll:

Well it might if you can be arsed, but I just can't. Life is too short. I might die tomorrow and if I do there had bloody well better be a thread on here about it. 8)

Seems a shame that you could potentially miss out on it, I could start a new Pre-RIP one if you would like?

Yes - it is in the rules.

Colinthecop

bianchimoon wrote:

Seems a shame that you could potentially miss out on it, I could start a new Pre-RIP one if you would like?

Hang on, before I decide.... By starting a Pre-RIP thread about me, are you hoping I'll die...?


Because if you are, I think I'll pass.

bianchimoon

Nah we're all Pre RIP, would have been a bit like this is your life, not this was your life

seanoconn

If colinthecop does die tonight, it's going to look pretty incriminating for bianchimoon

bianchimoon

seanoconn wrote:

If colinthechop does die tonight, it's going to look pretty incriminating for bianchimoon

colin-the-chop? you even know how it's gonna happen

Colinthecop

Oi, I can read this you know...!!!!!

tlw1

Colinthecop wrote:

Oi, I can read this you know...!!!!!

currently

bianchimoon

matthew h wrote:

Colinthecop wrote:

Oi, I can read this you know...!!!!!

currently

ravey1981

Some more info on the crash, from an eyewitness (cant confirm validity of this but it seems to be plausible)

"This happened at a business park located in Rye Canyon near Santa Clarita, California.

During a car show that Paul was using to support his charity “Reach Out Worldwide”, Paul and Roger Rodas (The Owner) of Always Evolving Performance, where the event was held decided to take his red Porsche for a spin.

They left the AEP parking lot turning right onto Alta Vista Ave. They then turned right onto Constellation Rd, and then right again onto Kelly Johnson Pkwy where the driver began testing the limits of the Porsche.

Northbound Kelly Johnson Pkwy has a small s curve and a wide sweeping right turn that turns into Hercules St. This business park loop is infamous for drivers using it as a race track and the “Hercules Curve” is where they test their drifting skills.

Paul and Roger’s speed was far too fast into the curve and the car’s rear end kicked out toward the driver side. The driver then over corrected and the passenger side rear end kicked out to the passenger side.

Sliding sideways at high speed, the car hit a light pole directly on the passenger door where Paul was sitting and the car was split/wrapped around the pole.

The fire was a result of the initial impact with the pole, as the force of the impact tore open pressurized fuel lines and the fuel tank, throwing burning gasoline all over the vehicle. The car continued to burn as it came to a sliding stop on a small tree."

info from here: http://thesupercarkids.com/what-caused- ... o-explode/

ballysmate

VTech wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

Paulie W wrote:

I dont think anyone is overcome with grief but when an actor, singer, celebrity dies there is a sense that we do 'know' them through their film, music, etc. in a way that we dont have any connection with the people whose names appear on the 'in memoriam' page in the local paper. When I heard James Gandolfini had dies a few months ago I was pretty sad for a day or so largely because what he did as an actor and the parts he played meant something to me. The fact that lots of people came out and said what a fantastic guy as well added to this.

I dont really know the work of Paul Walker so it hasnt had any impact on me at all beyond the general thought that anyone's death, especially an unexpected and early one, is going to mean great sadness for someone - I guess in this context I think there is a moment when we need to put aside issues of blame, consequences, etc.

I may well get accused of being insensitive here, but how can someone feel sad for days over the death of someone they didn't know or hadn't even met? Likewise, this fella. I didn't know him, I read the article, that's it, moved on.
If you are sad because as you say, the parts he played meant something to you, surely you didn't cry when Tony Soprano got clipped. After all you knew more of Soprano's character than the actor who played him.

The main reason I posted in the first place.
Your (and others) lack of empathy.
Its such a sad thing. I am happy I have it, its hurting right now for other reasons but id rather it be present in my life than be soulless.

Here is my first post in this thread.

Tragic when people die young, but I have to confess to never have heard of him.
Obviously not my type of films. No disrespect intended.

I am sorry if this doesn't show the required empathy or sympathy you think this death warrants. But as I have subsequently said, i find it bizarre that people can get so upset over the death of someone they didn't know. Not only didn't i know him, I had never heard of him.
My aunt died last month. If I had started a similar thread about her death, I doubt you would have been too cut up about it. Nor should you have been, as you didn't know her.
As Pinar pointed out, there were thousands dead in the recent typhoon but because they were not a celebs, I doubt their deaths affected some as much as the death of this actor.
I am not jealous of his wealth, his status, the cars or anything. I repeat, 'I can't grieve for someone I hadn't heard of.'

Mikey23

There was a major car smash on the A30 near us this evening... Air ambulance and road closed so probable fatalities. Thread for that?

ballysmate

Mikey23 wrote:

There was a major car smash on the A30 near us this evening... Air ambulance and road closed so probable fatalities. Thread for that?

Only if they had been on telly or some crap film.
Keep any cremation times secret, just in case some on here get that emotional that they want to jump on the pyre.

arran77

Ballysmate wrote:

Mikey23 wrote:

There was a major car smash on the A30 near us this evening... Air ambulance and road closed so probable fatalities. Thread for that?

Only if they had been on telly or some crap film.
Keep any cremation times secret, just in case some on here get that emotional that they want to jump on the pyre.

Can we give people a nudge onto the pyre :P

ballysmate

I have been on to the Ferrari dealership and canceled my order. I sometimes drive at speeds in excess of 38 mph and can't risk the car disintegrating.
My second choice was going to be a Carrera GT, but I have heard from an expert that they are poorly designed and prone to bursting into a fireball due to side impact.
I am now at a loss to know what to buy.

arran77

Ballysmate wrote:

I have been on to the Ferrari dealership and canceled my order. I sometimes drive at speeds in excess of 38 mph and can't risk the car disintegrating.
My second choice was going to be a Carrera GT, but I have heard from an expert that they are poorly designed and prone to bursting into a fireball due to side impact.
I am now at a loss to know what to buy.

Are you saying VTech is an expert because x is an unknown quantity and a spurt is a drip under pressure :shock:

Mikey23

Hyundai i10 is your answer...

FocusZing

My life be like.

ballysmate

I always consult him before purchasing any vehicles.
His advice on wine purchase has also proved invaluable during Asda's 3 for a tenner offer.

thomthom

Terrible thread this.

ballysmate

ThomThom wrote:

Terrible thread this.

I know. There are some insensitive tw@ts on here.

pinno

@ Bally. I hear BMW Isetta's are the in thing for keeping your speed down.

ballysmate

pinarello001 wrote:

@ Bally. I hear BMW Isetta's are the in thing for keeping your speed down.

But problems with the paintwork eh?

Velonutter

Here's my thoughts on this thread...

We pass through the life for an unknown period of time, as one gets older you become more aware of death around you, and whether it be a film star, relative or just someone you knew at the pub, it can all be taken sadly or with scant regards for life or even joyfully with some sick souls.

Grieve as you will, for that is not a fault, but failing to grieve is also not a fault.

All life is precious and that includes animals as well as humans, so whilst some may feel shock/horror/dismay at Paul Walkers Death, I can feel the same or more over an old dog that has been mistreated all it's life.

Personally I can make no sense from people that get emotional about a film star, as someone said, they generally have a good standard of living/life, you should not grieve over someone just because they are a film star as there are plenty of far more unjustified deaths to the average Joe Blogs in the street.

What really gets my goat is the totally pointless RIP thread started on forums and Facebook etc. where people don't know the unfortunate victim or the family and just post willy nilly a comment such as RIP etc. just to not be made to feel the odd one out.

If someone has a genuine thought about the untimely death of someone and wants to share it to ease their pain then fine, but if it is reporting on a news story then far better to start a thread such as "Shame about Paul Walker" rather than RIP Paul Walker.

I'm knocking anyone here, but lets all be a bit more realistic here, fact is that Paul Walker has died, what ever the circumstances it is a shame, but not because he is famous or because he had just left a charity do, the fact is that it is a shame!

Just my thoughts.

ugo.santalucia

See, we have been taught to give high value to human life, yet we have also been taught that there are good reasons to fight a war and the reasons can be as good as securing the price of oil stays level... or rephrasing it, there is a good reason to kill people to keep our high (also sold as safe) standard of living.
Yet, apparently we are supposed to mourn or at least show respect when someone decides to take his chances speeding on public roads and runs out of luck.
Had the news been:
"Paul Walker arrested for speeding in LA" we would have unanimously commented "what a xxxx !" yet, by losing his life in doing so, he redeems himself and gains some form of deserved respect. You can't really blame somebody for having a different opinion... just the same as you can't blame someone for opposing the war in Iraq or in Afghanistan... it is a matter of opinions... some feel for a Hollywood actor or other insignificant celebrity, others feel for different reasons.
Yet, apparently we are not allowed to have an opinion on someone losing his life as a result of speeding, but it's OK to vote for George Bush or Tony Blair (2005 elections, another landslide, despite the war). Or in other words, as long as they don't have a name, they're worthless... once you pile the names in a long list on a chunk of marble, then people start weeping...

Get real!

BillyMansell

Velonutter wrote:

What really gets my goat is the totally pointless RIP thread started on forums and Facebook etc. where people don't know the unfortunate victim or the family and just post willy nilly a comment such as RIP etc. just to not be made to feel the odd one out.

If someone has a genuine thought about the untimely death of someone and wants to share it to ease their pain then fine, but if it is reporting on a news story then far better to start a thread such as "Shame about Paul Walker" rather than RIP Paul Walker.

I watched that Charlie Brooker programme the other night about video gaming and he talked about Twitter being a game and the need for people to be the first to post a news story to get as many responses as possible no matter how grotesque or shocking the story. The same could be said of starting threads is the need for a response rather than concern for the story.

As to the person using this situation to suggest they have greater empathy than others, it's a shame they lack the humility to avoid such self-aggrandisement in the circumstance. The hypocrisy of moralising whilst chanting a sense of moral superiority shows a lack of self-awareness most people develop beyond in their formative years.