2014 Gear

1636466686992

Comments

  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    DiscoBoy wrote:
    What am I looking at here? Is it a "decoupling" type thing like on the Domane? Or is it just a new frame?

    Just a posh seat clamp basically...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • DiscoBoy
    DiscoBoy Posts: 905
    ddraver wrote:
    DiscoBoy wrote:
    What am I looking at here? Is it a "decoupling" type thing like on the Domane? Or is it just a new frame?

    Just a posh seat clamp basically...

    Ah, now I see it. Haven't these been around for a while?

    The tidiest solution IMO is what BMC do/did with tightening the seat post by an "angle lock" near the top of the post :)
    Red bikes are the fastest.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Contador on a Lightweight
    1395169491853.jpg
    and his single chainring:
    1395169928664.jpg

    Here you go FF, a post you made about Contador being on a LW


    Also you're really more stupid than I thought if you think there is some fraud going on here, Stages will know, Garmin will know. Garmin wouldn't be a title sponsor of a rival pro team. It's outsourcing on the part of Sky and Stages. Simple business. :roll: :roll:
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    opqs_martin_cockpit_600.jpg


    Come on lets see you ridicule OPQS...
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    edited May 2014
    I was reading the last few pages of this thread and thought, Frenchie's going to get presented with an OPQS pic any minute now...

    Its well known that the various non-GRS teams using Garmin headsets, cover up the Garmin name
  • nic_77
    nic_77 Posts: 929
    I think you are missing the point a little bit... there is no denying that Contador is riding a Lightweight wheel - but he has at least gone to the trouble of masking the branding a little with the Zipp logos.

    The Sky picture is only really an issue because Garmin happen to be the title sponsor of another team. So maybe a bit of black tape over the logo would have been a good idea.

    That said, there are many other teams riding groupsets, wheels, saddles, bars, computers etc that they have bought in (i.e. not been sponsored to use) - should all of these logos always be obscured too?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    nic_77 wrote:
    I think you are missing the point a little bit... there is no denying that Contador is riding a Lightweight wheel - but he has at least gone to the trouble of masking the branding a little with the Zipp logos.

    The Sky picture is only really an issue because Garmin happen to be the title sponsor of another team. So maybe a bit of black tape over the logo would have been a good idea.

    That said, there are many other teams riding groupsets, wheels, saddles, bars, computers etc that they have bought in (i.e. not been sponsored to use) - should all of these logos always be obscured too?

    But you are missing the point, they aren't trying to hide it. There will be some tie somewhere.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    mfin wrote:
    The funny thing is, if some people are so convinced that Sky are such evil powermeter led robots, I would have thought they'd want to use a more accurate power meter than Stages - that Stages themselves state as having "±2% accuracy of strain gage measured power".

    (This is not me defending Sky, I don't have favourite teams, wall posters and team duvet sets).


    Betcha do

    All power meters have a +/- degree of accuracy - Stages is no worse. But Stages are - apparently - more accurate when it comes to O rings. Which although Bradders has eschewed ('them silly O things'), Froome and some of the others still use.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    I asked Fran millar, why garmins:

    Fran Millar ‏@franmillar 18m
    @stevenmclean1 no reason other than they're compatible with our new power cranks "Stages"
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    I have a six pack which I rebadged so that it looks like a beer belly.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    http://inrng.com/2014/05/thursday-shorts-12/

    ruicostashoe1.jpg

    Well timed Inner Ring article on branding/ covering up.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    RichN95 wrote:
    I have a six pack which I rebadged so that it looks like a beer belly.

    I tried to rebrand mine as a 12-pack. Apparently that doesn't work :(.
    Team My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    nic_77 wrote:
    I think you are missing the point a little bit... there is no denying that Contador is riding a Lightweight wheel - but he has at least gone to the trouble of masking the branding a little with the Zipp logos.

    The Sky picture is only really an issue because Garmin happen to be the title sponsor of another team. So maybe a bit of black tape over the logo would have been a good idea.

    That said, there are many other teams riding groupsets, wheels, saddles, bars, computers etc that they have bought in (i.e. not been sponsored to use) - should all of these logos always be obscured too?

    Pretty much. There are some kuckle draggers on here that dont seem to get it though.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    http://inrng.com/2014/05/thursday-shorts-12/

    ruicostashoe1.jpg

    Well timed Inner Ring article on branding/ covering up.

    He is 3 months late on this news as those following this thread would know!
    Contador is the Greatest
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    mfin wrote:
    The funny thing is, if some people are so convinced that Sky are such evil powermeter led robots, I would have thought they'd want to use a more accurate power meter than Stages - that Stages themselves state as having "±2% accuracy of strain gage measured power".

    (This is not me defending Sky, I don't have favourite teams, wall posters and team duvet sets).


    Betcha do

    All power meters have a +/- degree of accuracy - Stages is no worse. But Stages are - apparently - more accurate when it comes to O rings. Which although Bradders has eschewed ('them silly O things'), Froome and some of the others still use.

    No I don't, I don't have room for the paraphernalia as it's all taken up mainly with My Little Pony and Justin Bieber stuff.

    I think Stages is less accurate, they are saying it is ±2% compared the tech in some of the other systems, plus of course it only measures one crank arm and then multiplies it by two (because there are two crank arms, I worked this out but it took me a while, because I couldn't see the other side of the chainset in the photo I was looking at so I assumed it didn't exist :) ).
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    nic_77 wrote:
    I think you are missing the point a little bit... there is no denying that Contador is riding a Lightweight wheel - but he has at least gone to the trouble of masking the branding a little with the Zipp logos.

    The Sky picture is only really an issue because Garmin happen to be the title sponsor of another team. So maybe a bit of black tape over the logo would have been a good idea.

    That said, there are many other teams riding groupsets, wheels, saddles, bars, computers etc that they have bought in (i.e. not been sponsored to use) - should all of these logos always be obscured too?

    Pretty much. There are some kuckle draggers on here that dont seem to get it though.

    Here's the answer why they don't cover up Garmin on the head unit.

    Fran Millar ‏@franmillar 2h
    @stevenmclean1 erm because they're Garmins? And it would be a bit churlish to cover the name, also Stages have a relationship with Garmin :)
  • Crankbrother
    Crankbrother Posts: 1,695
    That's an awful lot of scratching off of logos for many mechanics not working at Giant-Shimano ... Or maybe not ...
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Abbott rocking the tiny shorts:
    AbbottGila2_514-129.jpg
    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    edited May 2014
    Good article on Colnago:
    http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/05/colnago-superfan/

    How much money have you spent on collecting Colnago gear?

    Like any good Italian man I never kiss and tell (and if my wife read this and saw the amount, I’d probably be divorced). But let’s just say I lost count in about 2008 and I never looked back!
    Contador is the Greatest
  • markwb79
    markwb79 Posts: 937
    nic_77 wrote:
    I think you are missing the point a little bit... there is no denying that Contador is riding a Lightweight wheel - but he has at least gone to the trouble of masking the branding a little with the Zipp logos.

    The Sky picture is only really an issue because Garmin happen to be the title sponsor of another team. So maybe a bit of black tape over the logo would have been a good idea.

    That said, there are many other teams riding groupsets, wheels, saddles, bars, computers etc that they have bought in (i.e. not been sponsored to use) - should all of these logos always be obscured too?

    Pretty much. There are some kuckle draggers on here that dont seem to get it though.


    I am struggling to see the problem?
    They dont have a cycling computer sponsor, so what difference does it make?
    Its the same with their tyres (although that might have changed), they didnt used to have a tyre sponsor and bought their own, why would they need to cover up the brand?
    Scott Addict 2011
    Giant TCR 2012
  • Paul 8v
    Paul 8v Posts: 5,458
    Good article on Colnago:
    http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/05/colnago-superfan/

    How much money have you spent on collecting Colnago gear?

    Like any good Italian man I never kiss and tell (and if my wife read this and saw the amount, I’d probably be divorced). But let’s just say I lost count in about 2008 and I never looked back!
    I bet that briefcase cost a pretty penny!
  • specialgueststar
    specialgueststar Posts: 3,418
    summer-jersey-queen.jpg

    queen-summer-short.jpg
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Appalling piece of kit.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Shoes of Francois Pervis:
    Francois_Pervis_2840812k.jpg
    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Check out the aero peg!
    Mondayfootinass.jpg
    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    tumblr_n4ydlqTfPK1r4o0yso1_1280.jpg
    tumblr_n4ydlqTfPK1r4o0yso2_1280.jpg
    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    10329802_729750577076807_6686267830830779101_o.jpg
    Contador is the Greatest
  • shazzz
    shazzz Posts: 1,077
    tumblr_n4ydlqTfPK1r4o0yso1_1280.jpg
    tumblr_n4ydlqTfPK1r4o0yso2_1280.jpg



    Yum!
    Who are the uppers by? They don't look like Giros...
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Contador is the Greatest
  • specialgueststar
    specialgueststar Posts: 3,418
    Appalling piece of kit.

    better on

    2014_G4-WOMAN-vignette.jpg