The Tour - stage 13 *spoiler*
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Cav is absolutely buzzing. Great win for him! and its not often he interviews this well!0
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Walter White wrote:Lichtblick wrote:Can anyone make up 2m45seconds to the yellow?
Is that actually possible?
Froome will take more time in the MTT and surely all he has to do is shadow Contador in the mountains, he shouldn't be worrying about anyone else now.
After working as allies today we might see Mollema and Contador end up marking each other and not actually attacking Froome. Hope not.0 -
ddraver wrote:afx237vi wrote:GRRRR Eurosport... let's cut away from the atmosphere of that epic stage and go and sit in a boring studio with James Richardson.
Do They? I get that Mikey bloke and a load of Euro interviews....
We used to get the same when ES HD was the same as ES International, but now ES HD is the same as British ES and we get rubbish studio stuff with Richardson and Dan Lloyd.0 -
Considering Froome started to chase almost immediately then gave up, I would say it came directly from the Sky PR team.ddraver wrote:bipedal wrote:Le Commentateur wrote:Froome made a fatal mistake – When Saxo accelerated he had the opportunity to jump across to Cav's wheel and get pulled to Contador's group, but he hesitated and spoke on his radio to the team car. In a few seconds he gave away over a minute of his lead.
They are really missing Yates... no-one in the car seems to have a clue
Stannard saying they lost concentration for a second, Froome got trapped just at the wrong moment...didnt see it so not sure how realistic it was0 -
Walter White wrote:Lichtblick wrote:Can anyone make up 2m45seconds to the yellow?
Is that actually possible?
Froome will take more time in the MTT and surely all he has to do is shadow Contador in the mountains, he shouldn't be worrying about anyone else now.
If Sky disintegrates again they won't wait for the final climb. They'll drop Froome on a descent/valley....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
Can you rewind it a bit and see where Froome was maybe 10-15s earlier, just as Saxo began pulling a line of riders out? When I watched the replay it seemed like Froome was on someones wheel in that line, then the view got blocked by the people at the front, and when he reappeared there was clear road in front of him. So I couldn't tell if he lost the wheel himself or it was someone in front of him.OnYourRight wrote:
I noticed this too and took a screenshot (my TV is a USB thingy). The moment:Le Commentateur wrote:Froome made a fatal mistake – When Saxo accelerated he had the opportunity to jump across to Cav's wheel and get pulled to Contador's group, but he hesitated and spoke on his radio to the team car. In a few seconds he gave away over a minute of his lead.
Of course Froome might have been pretty cooked at that very moment and utterly unable to react. Regardless, the gamble paid off in a big way for Saxo-Tinkoff.0 -
hammerite wrote:Walter White wrote:Lichtblick wrote:Can anyone make up 2m45seconds to the yellow?
Is that actually possible?
Froome will take more time in the MTT and surely all he has to do is shadow Contador in the mountains, he shouldn't be worrying about anyone else now.
After working as allies today we might see Mollema and Contador end up marking each other and not actually attacking Froome. Hope not.
Froome will attack in the mountains and loose more time on stages like today, and like stage 9.0 -
OnYourRight wrote:
I noticed this too and took a screenshot (my TV is a USB thingy). The moment:Le Commentateur wrote:Froome made a fatal mistake – When Saxo accelerated he had the opportunity to jump across to Cav's wheel and get pulled to Contador's group, but he hesitated and spoke on his radio to the team car. In a few seconds he gave away over a minute of his lead.
Of course Froome might have been pretty cooked at that very moment and utterly unable to react. Regardless, the gamble paid off in a big way for Saxo-Tinkoff.
He'd already lost them by this point, that gap was too big to bring back.0 -
ALIHISGREAT wrote:Cav is absolutely buzzing. Great win for him! and its not often he interviews this well!
I was just about to say something similar
sounded really excited and full of life compared even to most of his post-win interviews 0 -
BigMat wrote:Love it when Cav gets to properly race, instead of being just a protected sprinter. He's a better racer than people give him credit for. Great stage that.
Sky are stretched to breaking point - nothing tactical about their inability to hold on today.
I agree however did Cav do any work? I watched about 70% of the move and didn`t see him on the front once. I didn`t catch the start of the move though.
He also only beat Sagan in the sprint so it isn`t particularly something he should be pumped to the rafters about.
Must be a ton of adrenaline running through those boys veins though!Contador is the Greatest0 -
This kind of logic doesn't into account the deadening affect of fatigue though.Walter White wrote:Lichtblick wrote:Can anyone make up 2m45seconds to the yellow?
Is that actually possible?
Froome will take more time in the MTT and surely all he has to do is shadow Contador in the mountains, he shouldn't be worrying about anyone else now.0 -
It looked like Kwiatkowski let the wheel go just behind Cavendish. Something that may have been deliberate.adr82 wrote:Can you rewind it a bit and see where Froome was maybe 10-15s earlier, just as Saxo began pulling a line of riders out? When I watched the replay it seemed like Froome was on someones wheel in that line, then the view got blocked by the people at the front, and when he reappeared there was clear road in front of him. So I couldn't tell if he lost the wheel himself or it was someone in front of him.Twitter: @RichN950 -
hammerite wrote:Walter White wrote:Lichtblick wrote:Can anyone make up 2m45seconds to the yellow?
Is that actually possible?
Froome will take more time in the MTT and surely all he has to do is shadow Contador in the mountains, he shouldn't be worrying about anyone else now.
After working as allies today we might see Mollema and Contador end up marking each other and not actually attacking Froome. Hope not.
Contador doesn't ride for places and I think Mollema must know he's no Alberto Contador, he has to try and match him to keep 2nd.
Both have strong teams though, which is going to make things very interesting."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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adr82 wrote:Can you rewind it a bit and see where Froome was maybe 10-15s earlier, just as Saxo began pulling a line of riders out? When I watched the replay it seemed like Froome was on someones wheel in that line, then the view got blocked by the people at the front, and when he reappeared there was clear road in front of him. So I couldn't tell if he lost the wheel himself or it was someone in front of him.
Cav dropped him
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mfin wrote:ALIHISGREAT wrote:Cav is absolutely buzzing. Great win for him! and its not often he interviews this well!
I was just about to say something similar sounded really excited and full of life compared even to most of his post-win interviews
I have a feeling that the p1ss event has made him more concious of being more PR friendly0 -
Sounds like Mollema/Belkin are making no bones about dropping Valverde
Gerard Vroomen @gerardvroomen 47s
Q for @BaukeMollema: "Was it unsportsmanlike against Valverde?" A: "Valverde has been unsportsmanlike in the past few years too" #touche0 -
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frenchfighter wrote:BigMat wrote:Love it when Cav gets to properly race, instead of being just a protected sprinter. He's a better racer than people give him credit for. Great stage that.
Sky are stretched to breaking point - nothing tactical about their inability to hold on today.
I agree however did Cav do any work? I watched about 70% of the move and didn`t see him on the front once. I didn`t catch the start of the move though.
He also only beat Sagan in the sprint so it isn`t particularly something he should be pumped to the rafters about.
Must be a ton of adrenaline running through those boys veins though!
HIs team have formulated a plan and executed it to perfection."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Cav 0
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r0bh wrote:Sounds like Mollema/Belkin are making no bones about dropping Valverde
Gerard Vroomen @gerardvroomen 47s
Q for @BaukeMollema: "Was it unsportsmanlike against Valverde?" A: "Valverde has been unsportsmanlike in the past few years too" #touche
OUCH!
Live by it dies by it I suppose.
Always bad to see a top contender go out though.Contador is the Greatest0 -
Cav said he was faltering moments before and he had to jump past him himself.RichN95 wrote:
It looked like Kwiatkowski let the wheel go just behind Cavendish. Something that may have been deliberate.adr82 wrote:Can you rewind it a bit and see where Froome was maybe 10-15s earlier, just as Saxo began pulling a line of riders out? When I watched the replay it seemed like Froome was on someones wheel in that line, then the view got blocked by the people at the front, and when he reappeared there was clear road in front of him. So I couldn't tell if he lost the wheel himself or it was someone in front of him.0 -
Ah OK, Cav said in his interview that he thought Kwia was struggling to hold on so he told him "move left!" and sprinted past to latch onto the tail end of the Saxo group. So like Macaloon says I guess Cav dropped Froome, would have been hard to follow himRichN95 wrote:
It looked like Kwiatkowski let the wheel go just behind Cavendish. Something that may have been deliberate.adr82 wrote:Can you rewind it a bit and see where Froome was maybe 10-15s earlier, just as Saxo began pulling a line of riders out? When I watched the replay it seemed like Froome was on someones wheel in that line, then the view got blocked by the people at the front, and when he reappeared there was clear road in front of him. So I couldn't tell if he lost the wheel himself or it was someone in front of him. 0 -
adr82 wrote:
Can you rewind it a bit and see where Froome was maybe 10-15s earlier, just as Saxo began pulling a line of riders out? When I watched the replay it seemed like Froome was on someones wheel in that line, then the view got blocked by the people at the front, and when he reappeared there was clear road in front of him. So I couldn't tell if he lost the wheel himself or it was someone in front of him.OnYourRight wrote:
I noticed this too and took a screenshot (my TV is a USB thingy). The moment:Le Commentateur wrote:Froome made a fatal mistake – When Saxo accelerated he had the opportunity to jump across to Cav's wheel and get pulled to Contador's group, but he hesitated and spoke on his radio to the team car. In a few seconds he gave away over a minute of his lead.
Of course Froome might have been pretty cooked at that very moment and utterly unable to react. Regardless, the gamble paid off in a big way for Saxo-Tinkoff.
Think Cav was in front of him with Kwiatowski in front again, according to Cavs interview Kwiatowski started losing the wheel so shouted to stay left and he then sprinted to catch it.0 -
frenchfighter wrote:r0bh wrote:Sounds like Mollema/Belkin are making no bones about dropping Valverde
Gerard Vroomen @gerardvroomen 47s
Q for @BaukeMollema: "Was it unsportsmanlike against Valverde?" A: "Valverde has been unsportsmanlike in the past few years too" #touche
OUCH!
Live by it dies by it I suppose.
Always bad to see a top contender go out though.
Burn."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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He did the two things he needed to do: make the split and win the sprint.frenchfighter wrote:
I agree however did Cav do any work? I watched about 70% of the move and didn`t see him on the front once. I didn`t catch the start of the move though.BigMat wrote:Love it when Cav gets to properly race, instead of being just a protected sprinter. He's a better racer than people give him credit for. Great stage that.
Sky are stretched to breaking point - nothing tactical about their inability to hold on today.
He also only beat Sagan in the sprint so it isn`t particularly something he should be pumped to the rafters about.
Must be a ton of adrenaline running through those boys veins though!0 -
At least Quintana know doesnt have to work for Valverde! Contador is the Greatest0
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Froome can feel that jersey slipping off his shoulders. needs a result on the ventoux and TT?"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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adr82 wrote:
Can you rewind it a bit and see where Froome was maybe 10-15s earlier, just as Saxo began pulling a line of riders out? When I watched the replay it seemed like Froome was on someones wheel in that line, then the view got blocked by the people at the front, and when he reappeared there was clear road in front of him. So I couldn't tell if he lost the wheel himself or it was someone in front of him.OnYourRight wrote:
I noticed this too and took a screenshot (my TV is a USB thingy). The moment:Le Commentateur wrote:Froome made a fatal mistake – When Saxo accelerated he had the opportunity to jump across to Cav's wheel and get pulled to Contador's group, but he hesitated and spoke on his radio to the team car. In a few seconds he gave away over a minute of his lead.
Of course Froome might have been pretty cooked at that very moment and utterly unable to react. Regardless, the gamble paid off in a big way for Saxo-Tinkoff.
Froome was on Cav's wheel.
Cav shouted at Kwia telling him to get out the way and Cav sprinted onto the back of the Saxo group.
Froome lost Cav's wheel and the rest is 1m06secs0 -
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mididoctors wrote:Froome can feel that jersey slipping off his shoulders. needs a result on the ventoux and TT?
AS long as he can stick with Contador on the uphills he should be OK, surely?
It may be shaping up a bit like 89... Froome losing a little here and a little there, pressure building all the time."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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