TDF 2013 Stage 9 *SPOILER*

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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    One of those days where they re well worth watching MR..
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    so froome doesn't seem possessed of much self assurance when on his own..

    interesting day after all
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    Not bad weekend for GB sport on the whole eh? :lol::lol:

    I have to say my heart was in my throat watching Murray there. I hate Tennis as well.

    Well done him though - great victory.

    Ah spoiler!!! :lol:

    Ms Cound is going to be in a real rage now, Chris has no chance of emulating Wiggo and winning SPOTY now. All that hard work gone to waste!
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    so froome doesn't seem possessed of much self assurance when on his own..

    interesting day after all

    What?
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    Official Mark Cavendish
    After days like today, the simplest things can be the most touching. @ramunas88 just offered me a @Ride_Argyle tortilla wrap. I almost cried
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    Turfle wrote:
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    so froome doesn't seem possessed of much self assurance when on his own..

    interesting day after all

    What?
    I think it's called "trolling".
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    adr82 wrote:
    Turfle wrote:
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    so froome doesn't seem possessed of much self assurance when on his own..

    interesting day after all

    What?
    I think it's called "trolling".

    You are correct. I'm intrigued to see just how tortured an explanation he can come up with though.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Turfle wrote:
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    so froome doesn't seem possessed of much self assurance when on his own..

    interesting day after all

    What?

    Watched a different race. Happens often around here it seems.

    Anyway, that's a bit rubbish for Sky to lose Kiryienka. Wonder if he is ill or it is a form thing. To not even be able to come in with the bus?
    ddraver wrote:
    Official Mark Cavendish
    After days like today, the simplest things can be the most touching. @ramunas88 just offered me a @Ride_Argyle tortilla wrap. I almost cried

    Bless.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,431
    Just made the mistake of looking at my phone...

    Yeeeeeeeeeeoooooooooowwwwwww!


    Looking forward to the ITV4 show to see how it all played out.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,646
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Just made the mistake of looking at my phone...

    Yeeeeeeeeeeoooooooooowwwwwww!


    Looking forward to the ITV4 show to see how it all played out.

    Top work with the avatar, some would worry it would be a jinx!
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    Daniel Benson ‏@dnlbenson 2
    Andy Schleck on Movistar: "They rode well but at the end of the day they also rode for nothing."

    See, Even Schlecklette knows they were crap!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    Why the flip do I keep DPing today?!??!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,646
    ddraver - King of the Double Post.

    Schleck is hard on them, they got rid of Porte, that's not bad for a day's work.

    That said, Saxo and Movistar could really have done Froome over today.
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  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Well after the histrionics of the last couple of days on BR it now looks safe to post.

    gutsy weekend from Little Pete, I think he justified his Tour selection yesterday and was unlucky today. I do think he would have been toast today in any event as he buried himself yesterday.

    Bakelants has been adopted as my rider of the Tour and Belkin as my team. Both have really surprised me with how they have ridden.

    Looking forward to the ITV 4 highlights tonight and the review of the week tomorrow.
    @JaunePeril

    Winner of the Bike Radar Pro Race Wiggins Hour Prediction Competition
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    ddraver - King of the Double Post.

    Schleck is hard on them, they got rid of Porte, that's not bad for a day's work.

    That said, Saxo and Movistar could really have done Froome over today.

    Taking on Froome is a process, not an event. He'll be nervous now - I didn't understand why he responded to the attacks as quickly as he did. NQ wasn't actually going to get anywhere.

    What could Saxo and Movistar done? More attacking? To what end?

    It was abundantly clear today that Sky have very few friends in the race.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    This from Little Pete:

    “I went down at 40k an hour and that was all I knew. I was just stuck in the ditch. Because I fell to the left I don’t think many people saw me. I was thinking ‘I need to get out of here’ as I could see the cars going past above me one by one. I managed to get myself up and out and checked everything was alright with my bike. We had the second car which got me going again. I was just a bit worried because the race was so on. And I knew I’d been sitting in the hedge for maybe a minute or so. I was just worried about what was going on up front and trying to get myself back in the race. I have a sore shoulder and a bit of road rash but we live to fight another day.”

    I love the thought of him sitting down there wondering if anyone noticed he was down there, worrying that the race was going to go on without him. He could have emerged in 50 years as an old bearded man that the locals told myths about. 'There's an old man that lives up the mountain there, he fell down the mountain when the Tour came past and at night if you listen really really carefully you can still here the whir of his chain as he rides to catch the peloton.'
    Correlation is not causation.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    iainf72 wrote:
    as abundantly clear today that Sky have very few friends in the race.


    I think they have the same amount of friends as any other non-spanish team...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    iainf72 wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    ddraver - King of the Double Post.

    Schleck is hard on them, they got rid of Porte, that's not bad for a day's work.

    That said, Saxo and Movistar could really have done Froome over today.

    Taking on Froome is a process, not an event. He'll be nervous now - I didn't understand why he responded to the attacks as quickly as he did. NQ wasn't actually going to get anywhere.

    What could Saxo and Movistar done? More attacking? To what end?

    It was abundantly clear today that Sky have very few friends in the race.

    This is quite true.

    To be honest what we saw today was a big step forward in the combating by other teams of Sky's tactics. Yes Movistar could have one-twoed Froome with attacks by Quitana and Valverde but that would have only have profited Saxo or Belkin who were circling like vultures.
    It will be interesting to see if a.n.other team has a go at Froome or whether Movistar have been given the job full time by default.
    @JaunePeril

    Winner of the Bike Radar Pro Race Wiggins Hour Prediction Competition
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    yes after today, id love to see movistar do that again and Valverde move into yellow. on the sun bleached slopes of Ventoux would be ideal.

    Interest renewed :D
  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    Evans has withdrawn :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
    sorry i meant to come back and say id made a mistake and Evans has had some breakfast.

    but i went for a ride instead :(
    What Evans said was that he had given up possibility of victory in the Tour, not that he was abandoning the race itself.

    After today's stage he now says ‘this could potentially be a very long and interesting Tour.’
    Un uomo solo al commando
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    It's all very well isolating him, but does anyone realistically believe Valverde or Contador have the strength to make it count? I don't. Froome will muller them both in Wednesday's TT.

    I do think he needs to chill out, though. What was he chasing NQ for?

    If Movistar want him to waste more nervous energy, they should do it on this stage:

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  • frisbee
    frisbee Posts: 691
    The other teams seemed to waste an opportunity today but I don't see any individual capable of matching Froome, Contador did nothing, Nibali must be kicking himself.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    Scott McGrory ‏@ScottMcGrory
    Quote of day from @richie_porte "Full credit to Valverde. He attacked so early and it takes a fair set of swingers to do that."
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,646
    Above The Cows wrote:
    This from Little Pete:


    I love the thought of him sitting down there wondering if anyone noticed he was down there, worrying that the race was going to go on without him. He could have emerged in 50 years as an old bearded man that the locals told myths about. 'There's an old man that lives up the mountain there, he fell down the mountain when the Tour came past and at night if you listen really really carefully you can still here the whir of his chain as he rides to catch the peloton.'

    Genuine :lol:

    It's said that he has a donkey named Pedro to keep him company.
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    frisbee wrote:
    The other teams seemed to waste an opportunity today but I don't see any individual capable of matching Froome, Contador did nothing, Nibali must be kicking himself.

    What do you propose the teams did?

    Yesterday we found out Sky are not as strong as they were last year, today it was confirmed beyond doubt. We also found out that while Froome is confident and can cope well when he's strong, he still seems tactically weak and I think if he has a bad moment it could be toxic.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    This from Little Pete:


    I love the thought of him sitting down there wondering if anyone noticed he was down there, worrying that the race was going to go on without him. He could have emerged in 50 years as an old bearded man that the locals told myths about. 'There's an old man that lives up the mountain there, he fell down the mountain when the Tour came past and at night if you listen really really carefully you can still here the whir of his chain as he rides to catch the peloton.'

    Genuine :lol:

    It's said that he has a donkey named Pedro to keep him company.

    And Sean Kelly's cow.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    iainf72 wrote:
    frisbee wrote:
    The other teams seemed to waste an opportunity today but I don't see any individual capable of matching Froome, Contador did nothing, Nibali must be kicking himself.

    What do you propose the teams did?

    Yesterday we found out Sky are not as strong as they were last year, today it was confirmed beyond doubt. We also found out that while Froome is confident and can cope well when he's strong, he still seems tactically weak and I think if he has a bad moment it could be toxic.

    Movistar should have had Valverde and Qunitana attacking Froome up every climb, one after the other. Trouble was that Valverde (and Contador too) knew that actually that meant giving the win to Quintana which was not acceptable. So they butchered it. Better to let Sky take the win than a Columbian maybe?

    I need to throw the question right back atcha though and ask what you think Froome did wrong today?
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    He was tactically brilliant.

    He followed Valverde and Quintana, and nobody else. He let Rui Costa go, he let Dan Martin go. The only time he rode was to counter, imo, his two strongest rivals.

    Today showed that Movistar have no interest in working with Contador.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    FWIW that's what I thought too Turfle...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    Turfle wrote:
    He was tactically brilliant.

    He followed Valverde and Quintana, and nobody else. He let Rui Costa go, he let Dan Martin go. The only time he rode was to counter, imo, his two strongest rivals.

    Today showed that Movistar have no interest in working with Contador.

    I agree with most of this although I think he could have let Quintana go, he wasn't going to take much time by that stage and Contador plus the Dutch boys would have lost more. That said Quintana's 'attacks' were really quite half hearted digs compared to his proper attack yesterday. To me it looks like everyone was happy to just move up a place with Porte losing so much time, they didn't look like people who are prepared to risk it all for the win.

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