TDF 2013 - Stage 5 *Spoilers*

andytee87

adr82 wrote:

Love watching those overhead shots of Cav sprinting

Yep, between them and the head on shots you really see that Greipel, Sagan et al really fight the bike compared to Cav. More power sure, but shows importance of technique

Vino'sGhost

ok bang on, hes the b oll coks at this sort of finish

above_the_cows

He he he he Steegmans and Cav. A giant and a pocket rocket.

tailwindhome

Jeez Sagan was fast there - was very badly positioned in the run in.....needs to be right up on Cav's wheel to beat him....

TMR

andytee87 wrote:

Yep, between them and the head on shots you really see that Greipel, Sagan et al really fight the bike compared to Cav. More power sure, but shows importance of technique

I don't think it's technique as much as they are fighting to get low enough. They have more power but they can't make themselves any smaller and it just results in a scrappy looking style.

Richmond Racer

Saur Sojasun rider 'We had to work really hard to bring back the breakaway'

What's this 'we' then, fella?


Oh now Lefevere...*shudder*

ddraver

Lefevere is the polar opposite of Madiot then...

That was painful!

MrTapir

andytee87 wrote:

adr82 wrote:

Love watching those overhead shots of Cav sprinting

Yep, between them and the head on shots you really see that Greipel, Sagan et al really fight the bike compared to Cav. More power sure, but shows importance of technique

EBH also exhibits a smooth style from that overhead shot.

above_the_cows

ddraver wrote:

certaintly not doubting him on PTP anymore



Housemate's bf would have never made that mistake! :P

Nah, it's a good idea. You pick Sagan and he doesn't win. That's why I've been picking him for the last stages and he hasn't won a sausage. It's true. I don't think Sagan's ever won when I've picked him for PTP, OK maybe G-W but that's it. I suppose it depends if you want Cav to win stages or you want to win PTP though... I'm selflessly sacrificing my PTP chances for Cav.

graeme_s-2

When Cav spoke to Ned Boulting yesterday he said he'd been ill (first time he'd admitted it) still wasn't feeling 100%, but hadn't wanted to say anything before because he was worried other teams would have tried to put him under pressure.

This made me think he probably was feeling pretty much 100%. Why keep it quiet for a week and then reveal it if you're worried about other teams taking advantage?

TheBigBean

TailWindHome wrote:

Jeez Sagan was fast there - was very badly positioned in the run in.....needs to be right up on Cav's wheel to beat him....

Needs to be right up on Cav's wheel to guarantee second.

Richmond Racer

ATC the martyr

graeme_s-2

MrTapir wrote:

EBH also exhibits a smooth style from that overhead shot.

Doesn't EBH tend to thrash his head up and down when he sprints (which you wouldn't necessarily see from a helicopter shot)?

Richmond Racer

TheBigBean wrote:

TailWindHome wrote:

Jeez Sagan was fast there - was very badly positioned in the run in.....needs to be right up on Cav's wheel to beat him....

Needs to be right up on Cav's wheel to guarantee second.

^this

alan_a

Raging. Prior to TTT I had Cav, Sagan, Greipel. Swapped Millar, EBH & Bauer in for TTT & forgot to swap back this morning. Grrrrr

DeadCalm

Above The Cows wrote:

ddraver wrote:

certaintly not doubting him on PTP anymore



Housemate's bf would have never made that mistake! :P

Nah, it's a good idea. You pick Sagan and he doesn't win. That's why I've been picking him for the last stages and he hasn't won a sausage. It's true. I don't think Sagan's ever won when I've picked him for PTP, OK maybe G-W but that's it. I suppose it depends if you want Cav to win stages or you want to win PTP though... I'm selflessly sacrificing my PTP chances for Cav.

Indeed. I've made it a policy this year never to pick for PTP someone I'd actually like to win.

tailwindhome

Richmond Racer wrote:

TheBigBean wrote:

TailWindHome wrote:

Jeez Sagan was fast there - was very badly positioned in the run in.....needs to be right up on Cav's wheel to beat him....

Needs to be right up on Cav's wheel to guarantee second.

^this

Sure. Cav would be favourite every time. But it you don't buy a ticket you can't win the raffle.

Watch it again. See how far back Sagan comes from and how much further he travels.


That said Cav always seems to have another kick if he needs it....

Turfle

Sagan was fast until he hit the wind.

above_the_cows

DeadCalm wrote:

Indeed. I've made it a policy this year never to pick for PTP someone I'd actually like to win.

I did pick Cav in the Giro but that was because he didn't really have any real competition and it seemed a bit silly not to pick him in that situation.

Richmond Racer wrote:

ATC the martyr

I have on my sack cloth and I'm about to cover myself in ashes.

...Right I suppose I better get back to reading this *really boring* dissertation. This student has turned what should be a really interesting topic into a turgid drone, it's quite an achievement.

oneof1982

Right, am out of here. France beckons, back a week on Monday.

oldwelshman

Great finish.
Can't believe how many moaning about EBH being on Cav's wheel? So what was Cav not on wheels for the entire race until last 300m? Who's wheel should he have been on then I wonder? Schlek's?
Guarenteed EBH 2nd place and in position if Cav faded.
Poor positioning by Sagan. Great rider but not a natural when comes to positioning, he was in wind way too long.
Argos Shimano? Faded badly.
Gutsy ride by GT hope he recovers, he will have lot to offer later in race if he recovers.

Paulie W

TailWindHome wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

TheBigBean wrote:

TailWindHome wrote:

Jeez Sagan was fast there - was very badly positioned in the run in.....needs to be right up on Cav's wheel to beat him....

Needs to be right up on Cav's wheel to guarantee second.

^this

Sure. Cav would be favourite every time. But it you don't buy a ticket you can't win the raffle.

Watch it again. See how far back Sagan comes from and how much further he travels.


That said Cav always seems to have another kick if he needs it....

Sagan certainly had a good jump but then Cav keeps him at bay and is pulling way as he sits up at the line - that's what I saw anyway.

Nickoo

cav unbeatable, great race

TheBigBean

TailWindHome wrote:

Sure. Cav would be favourite every time. But it you don't buy a ticket you can't win the raffle.

Watch it again. See how far back Sagan comes from and how much further he travels.

I think the best clean way to beat Cav is to go for a long one without him on your wheel, but Sagan is not really good enough for that, so he would more likely finish 6th than 1st.

scwxx77

anyone else watching this:
http://www.itv.com/tourdefrance/watch-t ... v-webcast/

TheStone

No problems from the crash?

Turfle

scwxx77 wrote:

anyone else watching this:
http://www.itv.com/tourdefrance/watch-t ... v-webcast/

Is Matt Rendell on a box?

salsiccia1

scwxx77 wrote:

anyone else watching this:
http://www.itv.com/tourdefrance/watch-t ... v-webcast/

Quite enjoyed that.

Let's be honest, we moan about the commentary, but we've never had it so good here in the UK with regards to decent coverage.

mididoctors

scwxx77 wrote:

anyone else watching this:
http://www.itv.com/tourdefrance/watch-t ... v-webcast/

yeah was ok..basically the podcast as video

above_the_cows

Oh jesus, I've just realised I picked Cav for tomorrow's stage earlier today. Do I go and change it? I'm getting really superstitious. If he doesn't win it will be my fault. :? :shock: What do I do? Help!