TDF 2013 - Stage 4 TTT *Spoilers*
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Lol. Nice to see someone still has hope.frenchfighter wrote:Cunego taking the jersey might be a nice idea as it could give him a spark to perform on a level he reached some years ago.0 -
greasedscotsman wrote:TheStone wrote:What's the longest anyone's gone between yellow jerseys?
Gino Bartali won the Tour in 1938 and 1948?
Millar could be 2000-2013 between holding the jersey.
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I love TTTs. Way more interesting than ITTs.
Who's on fifth, riders being shed, space helmets, huge roll out ramp, pedalling in unison, what's not to like?0 -
Am I supposed to work or something until the cycling comes on?0
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Lichtblick wrote:I love TTTs. Way more interesting than ITTs.
Who's on fifth, riders being shed, space helmets, huge roll out ramp, pedalling in unison, what's not to like?
Riders with strong teams get an even greater advantage than normal.0 -
Turfle wrote:Am I supposed to work or something until the cycling comes on?
Define 'work'
If its doing a few emails, and dialling into some group telecons...yes
Anything more demanding...no0 -
TheBigBean wrote:Lichtblick wrote:I love TTTs. Way more interesting than ITTs.
Who's on fifth, riders being shed, space helmets, huge roll out ramp, pedalling in unison, what's not to like?
Riders with strong teams get an even greater advantage than normal.
Or...things can go horribly wrong e.g. BMC at last year's Giro, with unexpected CX action by Phinney. Or Garmin at the Vuelta, with 3 riders down at a roundabout0 -
Richmond Racer wrote:TheBigBean wrote:Lichtblick wrote:I love TTTs. Way more interesting than ITTs.
Who's on fifth, riders being shed, space helmets, huge roll out ramp, pedalling in unison, what's not to like?
Riders with strong teams get an even greater advantage than normal.
Or...things can go horribly wrong e.g. BMC at last year's Giro, with unexpected CX action by Phinney. Or Garmin at the Vuelta, with 3 riders down at a roundabout
Didnt Astana do one in the last couple of years where they all came off round a bend?0 -
Richmond Racer wrote:Turfle wrote:Am I supposed to work or something until the cycling comes on?
Define 'work'
If its doing a few emails, and dialling into some group telecons...yes
Anything more demanding...no
That sounds like actual work.
I'm going to strain myself listening to a podcast or two.0 -
It was Bbox Bouygues Telecom - now EuropcarMrTapir wrote:Didnt Astana do one in the last couple of years where they all came off round a bend?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obTMm5mBLcg0 -
See also Lampre:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvU0Ue9gpr8
Lotto also managed to have their 8th man wipe out while riding in a straight line, almost taking the 9th man down with him.
Basically the 2009 tour seemed to be amateur hour for the TTT0 -
JV was bigging up how well Garmin's TTT training had gone on twitter just before the tour. Would like to see Millar in yellow.0
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Here's the video of Lotto crashing while riding in a straight line (think he touches the wheel of the guy in front)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV2klfACJJs
Menchov (surprise surprise) also crashed during that TTT - looks like it was on the same corner as the Lampre crash in the video above. Can't seem to find a video of that, mainly because google and youtube return so many different videos for "Menchov Crash" even if you narrow it down to time trials and 2009 you end up with loads of videos of his crash in the Giro TT that year!0 -
I'm not as high on Garmin as most people for this one.
5 of this same 9 were there for the Giro TTT, and they were very ordinary.
Talansky, Martin, Dennis, Bauer
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Stetina, Dekker, Hunter, Haas
Stronger for sure, but I'd argue all the other teams are improved too. They could definitely win, but I don't know that I'd have them as favourite.
*It's possible that I'm forgetting some particular problem that Garmin had during that TTT.0 -
I think OGE will do well today. Not sure if they'll win, but they've a good chance.0
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The Giro TTT was more technical and a bit more rolling. This TTT seems almost pan flat and a lot of it is on straight roads. Not entirely comparable.Turfle wrote:I'm not as high on Garmin as most people for this one.
5 of this same 9 were there for the Giro TTT, and they were very ordinary.
Talansky, Martin, Dennis, Bauer
vs
Stetina, Dekker, Hunter, Haas
Stronger for sure, but I'd argue all the other teams are improved too. They could definitely win, but I don't know that I'd have them as favourite.
*It's possible that I'm forgetting some particular problem that Garmin had during that TTT.0 -
when does it actually get under way?0
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TheStone wrote:greasedscotsman wrote:TheStone wrote:What's the longest anyone's gone between yellow jerseys?
Gino Bartali won the Tour in 1938 and 1948?
Millar could be 2000-2013 between holding the jersey.
could
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Slim Boy Fat wrote:JV was bigging up how well Garmin's TTT training had gone on twitter just before the tour. Would like to see Millar in yellow.
Ha ha. And we know from the Giro just what a great guide to form JV's tweets are
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It was, but I'm not sure technical & rolling should suit them any less.
I think we're seeing the names Millar, VDV, Danielson and imagining them at their best, not as the 2013 riders (clearly Millar IS in great form). To be fair though, Navardauskas, Talanksy, Ryder, Dennis, Bauer, Millar is a strong top 6. I still think they're going to have to go some to be up there with Movistar.
Also, I wonder if they'll hang around for Dan Martin if he starts to struggle.0 -
I'm looking forward to seeing Chirs Froome shoot off the front with 2 k to go, just "to keep out of trouble" and keep the rest of his team "on their toes".0
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2.15 for the first team off, 3.39 for the last.Contador is the Greatest0
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I'm with you on this. I think they'll be there or thereabouts but they're certainly not the overwhelming favourites some would have them. And not only Dan Martin, they have at least three possible team leaders. Are they going to be ruthless or will they try and get them all around?Turfle wrote:It was, but I'm not sure technical & rolling should suit them any less.
I think we're seeing the names Millar, VDV, Danielson and imagining them at their best, not as the 2013 riders (clearly Millar IS in great form). To be fair though, Navardauskas, Talanksy, Ryder, Dennis, Bauer, Millar is a strong top 6. I still think they're going to have to go some to be up there with Movistar.
Also, I wonder if they'll hang around for Dan Martin if he starts to struggle.
Here is the TT ranking of the teams as calculated by ProCyclingStats:
Teams Sum Time Trial Points
Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 3099
Sky Procycling 1563
BMC Racing Team 1150
Garmin - Sharp 955
Orica GreenEDGE 748
Movistar Team 736
Astana Pro Team 644
Vacansoleil - DCM 641
Cannondale Pro Cycling Team 451
Team Saxo-Tinkoff 449
Katusha Team 389
Belkin Pro Cycling Team 342
Lampre - Merida 335
RadioShack - Leopard 241
Equipe Cycliste FDJ.fr 222
Cofidis Solutions Crédits 166
AG2R La Mondiale 109
Team Argos - Shimano 82
Lotto Belisol Team 34
Euskaltel - Euskadi 27
Sojasun 24
With everyone fit, OPQS would be a shoe-in but with Tony Martin injured, not so much. I have a sneaky feeling we might see Cadel in yellow.
Here's the link to the page I copied this from. There are some quite nice stats there:
http://www.procyclingstats.com/race.php?c=2&sc=2&ssc=9&id=1136780 -
Cadel bores me. As a person and as a rider. I don't want to see him in yellow.0
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frenchfighter wrote:Cunego taking the jersey might be a nice idea as it could give him a spark to perform on a level he reached some years ago.
We had one of those in the Giro just past and we don't want another one in the Tour thanks !0 -
The Mad Rapper wrote:Cadel bores me. As a person and as a rider. I don't want to see him in yellow.
^rather him than Bert or Piti, but otherwise, yeah0
