'98 retro testing...

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  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    dave milne wrote:
    Turfle wrote:
    There's only one name that would shock me.

    Is Knaven the only one - outside of Mr Boardman - who would be a story at this point?

    backstedt, voight, o'grady?

    these are guys are pretty universally popular and most of us are propbably hoping they were clean back then


    But then why would they be? Of the 1998 Tour, the only guy I'd be disappointed in would be Boardman.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    according to someone tweeting from watching the live Senate media conference, they have some results from the 99 Tour too

    Alexandre Mignot @AlexandreMignot 33m
    So in english : "It's not a list of names, but of slips samples of the Tours de France 98 & 99"
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    dave milne wrote:
    Turfle wrote:
    There's only one name that would shock me.

    Is Knaven the only one - outside of Mr Boardman - who would be a story at this point?

    backstedt, voight, o'grady?

    these are guys are pretty universally popular and most of us are propbably hoping they were clean back then


    But then why would they be? Of the 1998 Tour, the only guy I'd be disappointed in would be Boardman.

    ^This

    Maggie is/was a big unit I've always suspected he may have needed a little extra in the tank, I hope I'm wrong.

    As I sais earlier Boardman would be the real disappointment and such a specialist/OCD TT'er that to find out he was juiced as well would be heartbreaking.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    according to someone tweeting from watching the live Senate media conference, they have some results from the 99 Tour too

    Alexandre Mignot @AlexandreMignot 33m
    So in english : "It's not a list of names, but of slips samples of the Tours de France 98 & 99"
    Good. Becuse now they've revealed that Pantani, Ullrich and Julich doped I'm keen to find out if Armstrong did too.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • dsoutar
    dsoutar Posts: 1,746
    Voici les premiers noms de cyclistes dopés sur le Tour de France 1998 et 1999: Jalabert, Tafi, Zabel, Hamburger, Serrano, Heppner, Blijlevens, Minali, Cipollini, Sacchi, Mazzoleni, Durand, Olano, Desbiens, Pantani, Beltran, Ullrich (deux fois), Livingston...
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    So no suprises... but some red faces...
  • dsoutar
    dsoutar Posts: 1,746
    dish_dash wrote:
    So no suprises... but some red faces...

    Like Blijlevens maybe - DS at Belkin
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Does this mean I can now claim I beat Fabio Sacchi up Alpe D'Huez on a rainy morning in 2001? I held his wheel for about 200 metres when he caught me on his training ride about 2km from the top. He later passed me doing the "Loser" sign on his way back down.

    I want this stricken from the record and my honour restored.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    dsoutar wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    So no suprises... but some red faces...

    Like Blijlevens maybe - DS at Belkin


    Pop quiz

    What other shame do Blijvens and Julich share on the Tour?
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Does this mean I can now claim I beat Fabio Sacchi up Alpe D'Huez on a rainy morning in 2001? I held his wheel for about 200 metres when he caught me on his training ride about 2km from the top. He later passed me doing the "Loser" sign on his way back down.

    I want this stricken from the record and my honour restored.

    :D More doping scar tissue. Another promising career nipped in the bud.
    ...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    dsoutar wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    So no suprises... but some red faces...

    Like Blijlevens maybe - DS at Belkin


    Pop quiz

    What other shame do Blijvens and Julich share on the Tour?

    They were both favourites of mine! Is that it?
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    RichN95 wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    according to someone tweeting from watching the live Senate media conference, they have some results from the 99 Tour too

    Alexandre Mignot @AlexandreMignot 33m
    So in english : "It's not a list of names, but of slips samples of the Tours de France 98 & 99"
    Good. Becuse now they've revealed that Pantani, Ullrich and Julich doped I'm keen to find out if Armstrong did too.


    :)
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Turfle wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    dsoutar wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    So no suprises... but some red faces...

    Like Blijlevens maybe - DS at Belkin


    Pop quiz

    What other shame do Blijvens and Julich share on the Tour?

    They were both favourites of mine! Is that it?


    bobbyvjeroen.jpg
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    dsoutar wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    So no suprises... but some red faces...

    Like Blijlevens maybe - DS at Belkin


    Pop quiz

    What other shame do Blijvens and Julich share on the Tour?


    They both had a thing for Julie Andrews as Mary Poppins?
  • dsoutar
    dsoutar Posts: 1,746
    ^ Where's Hinault when you need him ?
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    dsoutar wrote:
    Voici les premiers noms de cyclistes dopés sur le Tour de France 1998 et 1999: Jalabert, Tafi, Zabel, Hamburger, Serrano, Heppner, Blijlevens, Minali, Cipollini, Sacchi, Mazzoleni, Durand, Olano, Desbiens, Pantani, Beltran, Ullrich (deux fois), Livingston...

    No surprises but wonder what Cipo will say about this.

    Also would be nice to know how many riders they tested and were clean in that tour and how many didn't even get a test
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    Fighting in cycling shoes never looks graceful.
  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    Turfle wrote:
    Fighting in cycling shoes never looks graceful.


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  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    Meanwhile in 2013:
    Hilary Evans ‏@OlympicStatman 44s
    #Doping In summary -- The Russian Anti-Doping Agency today announced 23 sportsmen and women have been suspended for drug test failures


    + all sorts of stuff going in in America with NFL and MLB.
  • thomthom
    thomthom Posts: 3,574
    edited July 2013
    Good old O'grady.. That P-R title was too good to be true then..
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    NO trace of EPO

    Dani Sánchez ‏@DaniBici 1m
    Probado que sus muestras del Tour ’98 no contenían EPO: Chris Boardman, Jan Svorada, Maarten den Bakker y Stuart O’Grady (en dos ocasiones).
  • Paulie W
    Paulie W Posts: 1,492
    ThomThom wrote:
    Good old O'grady.. That P-R title was too good to be true then..

    My understanding is that O'Grady's name is not on the list - not that necessarily means a great deal.
  • thomthom
    thomthom Posts: 3,574
    Paulie W wrote:
    ThomThom wrote:
    Good old O'grady.. That P-R title was too good to be true then..

    My understanding is that O'Grady's name is not on the list - not that necessarily means a great deal.

    It seems you are quite right. Just read the opposite somewhere else, though.
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    Too confusing. Think I'll wait until someone I trust has seen the report.
  • doug5_10
    doug5_10 Posts: 465
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/french-senate-releases-positive-epo-cases-from-1998-tour-de-france

    O'Grady 'suspicious'
    Edinburgh Revolution Curve
    http://app.strava.com/athletes/1920048
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Confessing to huge sigh of relief re Boardman...

    ...who'd have been tested multiple times on that Tour as wearing yellow

    And here's two fingers in the air to Vaughters who was spouting on Twatters last night that he reckoned 100% of the riders at the '98 Tour would have been on it
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    doug5_10 wrote:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/french-senate-releases-positive-epo-cases-from-1998-tour-de-france

    O'Grady 'suspicious'


    Anybody know what constitutes suspicious? Cippollini needs to ask for his money back. Did he ever finish a Tour?
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  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    Must admit I didn't doubt Boardman for a second. I think that says a lot about him.

    Sky escape the Knaven conundrum.

    Still nothing sticks to Jens.
  • doug5_10
    doug5_10 Posts: 465
    Apparently Boardman's were too degraded to re-test . . .
    Edinburgh Revolution Curve
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Turfle wrote:
    Must admit I didn't doubt Boardman for a second. I think that says a lot about him.

    Sky escape the Knaven conundrum.

    Still nothing sticks to Jens.


    I know, it wasnt that I doubted....but unless you're the athlete himself you can never be 100% sure, can you

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