Dauphine - Stage 5 *Spoiler*
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Above The Cows wrote:Macaloon wrote:The White Kenyan parlez les Francais??
Frappez les crows avec stones, Jacques
His accent isn't bad either.0 -
I'm glad for Kennaugh. A lot of people have known how good he is for a while but he's showing it on a really big stage. Only 23 as well.0
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Above The Cows wrote:
Thanks for the link!0 -
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Talking of semis, Matt Keenan's got one for Richie Porte0
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Richmond Racer wrote:Talking of semis, Matt Keenan's got one for Richie Porte
Yes it is a little obvious.Correlation is not causation.0 -
Crankbrother wrote:Porte comes in 22secs down ... bloody impressive ...
Great ride by Busche ... Froome had no need to take the stage once he clipped Contador's wings ... It's the kind of thing that loses you a GT when on a bad day and every other team remembers these silly 'wins' ...
I think the psychological advantage of doing berties head in is worth it."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
frenchfighter wrote:Damn Contador is stylish when he attacks. Pro.
Hardly stylish if it didnt stick. First over the line is the fastest/ most stylish. End of.0 -
Mick Rogers really is looking good. Wonder if he will play the Porte role for Saxo and try and hang in as a 2nd GC rider.
And Konig continues to look good.0 -
mike6 wrote:frenchfighter wrote:Damn Contador is stylish when he attacks. Pro.
Hardly stylish if it didnt stick. First over the line is the fastest/ most stylish. End of.
Eh, what?
So Kiryienka isn't the most stylish rider in the peloton because he's not winning?0 -
Frenchie wants cycling to be more like synchronized swimming with marks awarded for artistic impression rather than be judged on time.
It's shame as when he isn't being a complete tool, he contributes a lot to the board, but with the dominance of Sky and his hatred of them, he is being a tool more and more often. Shame really.0 -
LeicesterLad wrote:Thread ruined.
Is this going to happen every day in the Tour? Every spoiler thread turns into some petty Froome/Contador debate? It's going to be a long old Tour if thats the Case.
Froome is excellent.
Contador is excellent.
This year one is better than the other, so far.
End.
Right - I'm off to the clinic for some more reasoned debated....
This. We should be on the "peaking too early" debate at the moment shouldnt we.....or has that one been put to bed now?0 -
mididoctors wrote:Crankbrother wrote:Porte comes in 22secs down ... bloody impressive ...
Great ride by Busche ... Froome had no need to take the stage once he clipped Contador's wings ... It's the kind of thing that loses you a GT when on a bad day and every other team remembers these silly 'wins' ...
I think he psychological advantage of doing berties head in is worth it.
He sort of implied as much (well implied as much as he could in his improving yet still quite broken French). He said going for the stage win had been the aim that morning and then did a Cav style "and because my team were amazing I also had to win" type thing.Correlation is not causation.0 -
And if he didn't win, Contador would have; why on earth would Froome want that?0
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OnYourRight wrote:Above The Cows wrote:His accent isn't bad either.
The trouble is, there’s no quicker way up a mountain than TTTing it, ignoring any and all attacks, and finishing with a sprint. Nobody, not even Contador, can beat Sky at that game. I would dearly love to see a bit more inventiveness and risk-taking from Saxo-Tinkoff. Disruptive action is needed. Early attacks – really early, not at 1.8 km to go – coordination with other like-minded teams, misleading or controversial comments to the media, etc. You need to have Sky hitting that last climb shaken and uncertain – otherwise it’s curtains.
The obvious question is whether Froome has peaked too early. Can he maintain this form for six weeks? Doubtful, in my view.
Wiggins managed to peak for 4 months in a row last year. Shouldn't be a problem for Sky and Froome..0 -
Dorset Boy wrote:Frenchie wants cycling to be more like synchronized swimming with marks awarded for artistic impression rather than be judged on time.
It's shame as when he isn't being a complete tool, he contributes a lot to the board, but with the dominance of Sky and his hatred of them, he is being a tool more and more often. Shame really.
Well, aren't you a nice fella'..0 -
Dorset Boy wrote:Frenchie wants cycling to be more like synchronized swimming with marks awarded for artistic impression rather than be judged on time.
It's shame as when he isn't being a complete tool, he contributes a lot to the board, but with the dominance of Sky and his hatred of them, he is being a tool more and more often. Shame really.
They should have to ride with ribbons, like Nibali here with the ribbon of the Maglia Rosa.
Correlation is not causation.0 -
ThomThom wrote:OnYourRight wrote:Above The Cows wrote:His accent isn't bad either.
The trouble is, there’s no quicker way up a mountain than TTTing it, ignoring any and all attacks, and finishing with a sprint. Nobody, not even Contador, can beat Sky at that game. I would dearly love to see a bit more inventiveness and risk-taking from Saxo-Tinkoff. Disruptive action is needed. Early attacks – really early, not at 1.8 km to go – coordination with other like-minded teams, misleading or controversial comments to the media, etc. You need to have Sky hitting that last climb shaken and uncertain – otherwise it’s curtains.
The obvious question is whether Froome has peaked too early. Can he maintain this form for six weeks? Doubtful, in my view.
Wiggins managed to peak for 4 months in a row last year. Shouldn't be a problem for Sky and Froome..
This. And Evans did pretty much the same the previous year.0 -
ThomThom wrote:OnYourRight wrote:Above The Cows wrote:His accent isn't bad either.
The trouble is, there’s no quicker way up a mountain than TTTing it, ignoring any and all attacks, and finishing with a sprint. Nobody, not even Contador, can beat Sky at that game. I would dearly love to see a bit more inventiveness and risk-taking from Saxo-Tinkoff. Disruptive action is needed. Early attacks – really early, not at 1.8 km to go – coordination with other like-minded teams, misleading or controversial comments to the media, etc. You need to have Sky hitting that last climb shaken and uncertain – otherwise it’s curtains.
The obvious question is whether Froome has peaked too early. Can he maintain this form for six weeks? Doubtful, in my view.
Wiggins managed to peak for 4 months in a row last year. Shouldn't be a problem for Sky and Froome..
Just because you win why does that mean you have peaked?
If all the GC riders are all aiming to peak at the tour (and in this race they are) then they are all on approximately the same place in their upward curve ...0 -
Above The Cows wrote:They should have to ride with ribbons, like Nibali here with the ribbon of the Maglia Rosa.
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adr82 wrote:Above The Cows wrote:They should have to ride with ribbons, like Nibali here with the ribbon of the Maglia Rosa.
Marginal gainsCorrelation is not causation.0 -
Watch videos from Stage 5 of the Dauphine here - http://bit.ly/ZmoR1B0
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binkybike wrote:ThomThom wrote:OnYourRight wrote:Above The Cows wrote:His accent isn't bad either.
The trouble is, there’s no quicker way up a mountain than TTTing it, ignoring any and all attacks, and finishing with a sprint. Nobody, not even Contador, can beat Sky at that game. I would dearly love to see a bit more inventiveness and risk-taking from Saxo-Tinkoff. Disruptive action is needed. Early attacks – really early, not at 1.8 km to go – coordination with other like-minded teams, misleading or controversial comments to the media, etc. You need to have Sky hitting that last climb shaken and uncertain – otherwise it’s curtains.
The obvious question is whether Froome has peaked too early. Can he maintain this form for six weeks? Doubtful, in my view.
Wiggins managed to peak for 4 months in a row last year. Shouldn't be a problem for Sky and Froome..
Just because you win why does that mean you have peaked?
If all the GC riders are all aiming to peak at the tour (and in this race they are) then they are all on approximately the same place in their upward curve ...
By that logic no one was peaking in in P-N, Romandie, Dauphine and Olympics. And I can assure you that here were riders that peaked in time these races were ridden.0 -
A peak Wiggins doesn't beat Talansky and Westra by only a combined 20 seconds total at Paris-Nice and Romandie. Or by a total of 2 seconds over the two TTs.0
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a cycling equivalent of Paula Radcliffe....0
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OnYourRight wrote:Still, I do think Froome has peaked a little bit early, especially for such a skinny and probably fragile fellow.
Because Wiggins is a Mr Olympia contender? Give over.0 -
frenchfighter wrote:Damn Contador is stylish when he attacks. Pro.
Yea but since having to ditch being on the juice can't TT for toffee nor make them attacks stick.
Froomedog Topdog.0 -
Just caught up with this. Watched delayed transmission. Great ride by Froome. In the context of the race, the onus was on Contador at nearly three minutes behind, to do something more than a single "stylish" attack with only 1k to go.
As for taking the stage, if Froome hadn't Contador would have so every reason for Froome to ride on. The only down side of today is that Contador is effectively so far behind at this stage in the year he may be tempted to go back to the butchers before the TdF.0