Di Luca up to his old tricks
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dsoutar wrote:frenchfighter wrote:A clean rider (Wiggins) can be dull and a clean rider (Contador) can be exciting.
What can I say - absolutely troll-tastic !Trail fun - Transition Bandit
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Slowly losing faith in all these pro's....Scott Speedster S20 Roadie for Speed
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What's the difference between a former Grand Tour winner and a Grand Tour winner? Are Heras and Llandis former winners in that they won grand tours and then lost them due to failed doping tests? Or perhaps, it means they are not reigning champs, so Wiggins and Contador fans can sleep easily, but the Menchov and Basso fans have something to fear.0
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Plan "C" for today was obviously the DDL announcement.
He was ridiculous in both the GP Industria and Giro Toscano, where he got popped.
I watched both.
It's all well and good to say he's an attacking rider, but he's only able to do it cos he's on
rocket fuel.
Di Luca was in the last chance saloon, so it's hardly surprising he chose to throw his favourite dice,
one last time."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Lets face it, there will, eventually, be some more positive tests which will be equally unsurprising. Except for Contador obviously who is beyond reproach.
Aggression, Panache or whatever else you want to call it is all very exciting at the time, and then you get the 'hangover' when you realise it was all unnatural and you wasted 3 weeks watching a tour where the majority of the protagonists were juiced.
Personally, I don't know why these teams/sponsors keep signing the same old suspects (who are usually unrepentant) and people keep being surprised.0 -
Apparently started the Giro with just a couple of day's of racing done beforehand.
Amused by the team management who have made a show of disowning him to the point of leaving him to somehow make his own way home from the hotel. Yet a day or so before they were critical of Garzelli for not racing as hard as Di Luca.0 -
gregster04 wrote:Lets face it, there will, eventually, be some more positive tests which will be equally unsurprising. Except for Contador obviously who is beyond reproach.
Yes, possibly from this Giro, after all when was the last time anyone was this far ahead - oh, 2011.......Trail fun - Transition Bandit
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frenchfighter wrote:dsoutar wrote:frenchfighter wrote:Nope not a heavyweight but a very exciting rider with an attacking mentality.
The problem is that the attacking mentality comes from knowing that given what you've ingested that you can make these attacks.
Yes and no.
A drugged rider (Menchov) can be dull and a drugged rider (Di Luca) can be exciting.
A clean rider (Wiggins) can be dull and a clean rider (Contador) can be exciting.
Exactly - though you could probably have used Contador twice in that example.
it's a hard life if you don't weaken.0 -
I can't believe anyone thinks the sport is now clean. Cleaner, perhaps.0
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I am so shocked. I can hardly believe it.
Found it a little disheartening yesterday when Di Luca, then Caruso, then Scarponi all set great times in the same 5, 10 minute period (Scarponi at halfway). I don't know, what can you say?0 -
Oh my... Not Danilo Di Luca. I'm stunned. Truly stunned.
I'm all for giving all riders who do their time a second chance, but he's had more lives than a cat.
Good riddance to one of the sleaziest, most unrepentant dopers of them all. I cannot believe anybody could ever take him seriously as a credible GC contender. Oil for drugs may well be the nadir of cynicism in The Sport of Professional Cycling."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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There'll soon be NO exciting racing at all. This Giro has been bad enough, if the day ever comes that they are all clean, long stage racing really won't be worth watching. Modern training and diet regimes (just another form of cheating really) are so standardised that no one will dominate, no one will have good/bad days, no one will take chances.
Just give 'em all a single speed bike, no support cars, no radios....oh that's sport, NOT mass marketing posing as entertainment. Cycling has finally joined all the other ex-sports.d.j.
"Cancel my subscription to the resurrection."0 -
everything he did this giro was chased down"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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mididoctors wrote:everything he did this giro was chased down
Intentionally no doubt
@meagain
If you really believe that, why not just go watch the NBA? They don't give a hoot what their players do."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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disgruntledgoat wrote:
had that vibe to it."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
FF trying to liven up a day with no cycling with his Bertie comments
I keep hoping that other sports will start to expose their drugs cheats (no just those who take clenbutarol) and we can really start to make some inroads in to doping. Cycling can't do it alone and although each positive shows that tests are catching some dopers, it will need a concerted effort from all sports to try and get ahead of those who dope.0 -
meagain wrote:There'll soon be NO exciting racing at all. This Giro has been bad enough, if the day ever comes that they are all clean, long stage racing really won't be worth watching.
Well, not really, look back at the Merckx era, ok he and others took stuff, but with nothing like the kind of advantages you get from EPO, blood doping etc.
Like mentioned once before, all the dopers who've come back should have to wear a certain colour helmet or jersey, so that when people ask 'why are several people on different teams wearing bright red crash helmets' or something like that, people can say 'ah, that's to identify that they've been caught using drugs to cheat in the past'.0 -
IanLD wrote:FF trying to liven up a day with no cycling with his Bertie comments
Ah well, makes a change from the Di Luca comments !
Stage 4:frenchfighter wrote:Got to love the way Di Luca races. Killer. Shame Sky might just ruin it.
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ThomThom wrote:http://cyclingtips.com.au/2013/05/the-secret-pro-2/
While I’m on the topic of Grand Tours, there’s talk going around the peloton that a former Grand Tour winner who’s about to be taken down for a biological passport irregularity. I can’t say who it is but when the news breaks you’ll know who I’m talking about. If it’s true, it’s a good thing that he’s been found out; it shows that the biological passport is doing its job.
I suggested at the time it could be Di Luca, after he stuck in a big attack the day the column came out.... Glad he's been done, sad to call these things out!0 -
What a massive w@nker, lifetime ban's too short for that plonker0
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"We are catching the dopey dopers, but not the sophisticated ones."0
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Caption competition:
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I was going to make two observations but I wont. Lol. (not referring to the photo)Contador is the Greatest0
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Just wondering... Do Italian pros do school visits and get involved with local, regional and national programmes to promote cycling like they do in the UK, or is it seen as a completely separate world with one sphere regarded as an irrelevance to the other?
I'm just imagining what the kids might be thinking right now if Di Luca's rocked up their school lately looking bronzed, fit and wealthy... possibly with an mink coat draped over his shoulders and walking with a dandy's cane.0 -
He can't be the rider suggested in the Secret Pro because that was supposedly about a biological passport irregularity rather than a positive for EPO. It could of course be Menchov. My understanding is that even if you are retired they will still undertake the full process and ban you.
No-one will be sad to see the back of Di Luca, other than maybe the man himself. Presumably he had become so reliant on doping that he was never going to change his ways. Once again proof that the current system isn't effective. Bans need to be longer.0 -
YorkshireRaw wrote:ThomThom wrote:http://cyclingtips.com.au/2013/05/the-secret-pro-2/
While I’m on the topic of Grand Tours, there’s talk going around the peloton that a former Grand Tour winner who’s about to be taken down for a biological passport irregularity. I can’t say who it is but when the news breaks you’ll know who I’m talking about. If it’s true, it’s a good thing that he’s been found out; it shows that the biological passport is doing its job.
I suggested at the time it could be Di Luca, after he stuck in a big attack the day the column came out.... Glad he's been done, sad to call these things out!
Di Luca failed a test though didn't he - EPO detected in blood - not a passport irregularity
although of course one would lead to the other0 -
meagain wrote:There'll soon be NO exciting racing at all. This Giro has been bad enough, if the day ever comes that they are all clean, long stage racing really won't be worth watching. Modern training and diet regimes (just another form of cheating really) are so standardised that no one will dominate, no one will have good/bad days, no one will take chances.
Just give 'em all a single speed bike, no support cars, no radios....oh that's sport, NOT mass marketing posing as entertainment. Cycling has finally joined all the other ex-sports.
How do you make out that training and diet are 'other forms of cheating'?0 -
LeicesterLad wrote:Caption competition:
Oh god I've just realised he looks just like one of my PhD examiners. He was a massive a*se hat as well.
Caption: "Gollum digs deep into his suitcase of courage, finds a zebra print armchair and tries his luck in The Sport of Professional Cycling."
Not very snappy is it? Hmmm :?meagain wrote:There'll soon be NO exciting racing at all. This Giro has been bad enough, if the day ever comes that they are all clean, long stage racing really won't be worth watching. Modern training and diet regimes (just another form of cheating really) are so standardised that no one will dominate, no one will have good/bad days, no one will take chances.
Just give 'em all a single speed bike, no support cars, no radios....oh that's sport, NOT mass marketing posing as entertainment. Cycling has finally joined all the other ex-sports.
As for this...
Correlation is not causation.0
