Tips and help for a first time offroader.
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Why do you hate illerates so much?njee20 wrote:This and the "my first bike" thread are like an illerate homosexual love in by you lot. Very odd indeed!I don't do smileys.
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ps what is an illerate?
Could it be that you are a closet illiterate?I don't do smileys.
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Sneaky editing is too late.njee20 wrote:Oh teh ironing!I don't do smileys.
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njee20 wrote:This and the "my first bike" thread are like an illiterate homosexual love in by you lot. Very odd indeed!
How in gods name is a conversation homosexual???? Indeed it is odd that you think that it is!0 -
cooldad wrote:ps what is an illerate?
Could it be that you are a closet illiterate?
I think he meant illiterate, lol. And i am not illiterate. If you were trying to call me an illiterate. I dont think i make many spelling mistakes, but i usually type "dont" instead of "don't" for example. Thats usually as bad as my grammar gets on computers.0 -
Step83 wrote:If it helps I know of at least two powder coaters that will do ut for £30 not sure on the whole colour range mind
Thanks, but ill be doing it myself with some spray cans
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"cream her knickers" eh?...i might have to start busting a few wheelies down the road in town after school
Cheers for the info, but im gonna have a look in Halfords and buy a can of paint that looks most like what i want, probably would end up going for a car paint of some sort. Then ill wait for some reliable and hot weather and get spraying. Cant wait.0 -
GT-Arrowhead wrote:"cream her knickers" eh?...i might have to start busting a few wheelies down the road in town after school
Cheers for the info, but im gonna have a look in Halfords and buy a can of paint that looks most like what i want, probably would end up going for a car paint of some sort. Then ill wait for some reliable and hot weather and get spraying. Cant wait.
busting wheelies after school LOL0 -
Step83 wrote:If it helps I know of at least two powder coaters that will do ut for £30 not sure on the whole colour range mind
Avoid industrial coaters (if that's what they are)- only use coaters who specialise in bike parts (or at the very least be very explicit about which areas and threads need masking from blasting and coating). A coater who doesn't understand bikes can do a lot of damage.0 -
GT-Arrowhead wrote:njee20 wrote:This and the "my first bike" thread are like an illiterate homosexual love in by you lot. Very odd indeed!
How in gods name is a conversation homosexual????
Well, if you were talking about how much you'd enjoyed a vigorous session of gay sex last night, that would be a pretty homosexual conversation.0 -
GT-Arrowhead wrote:"cream her knickers" eh?...i might have to start busting a few wheelies down the road in town after school Somehow I don't think that would work - you'd need an engine, an antisocial exhaust and an "all elbows and attitude" riding style. And she's not into schoolboys - she was only 25, but liked her men older, with a bit of grey in their hair, lol. Can't blame you for trying though, lol, she is a stunner. I remember one evening when we were riding through the outskirts of York on our way to the pub I hoisted a nice minger then she rode up alongside, looked across at me and pointed to her crotch - made me chuckle, lol. Happy days... 0
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Kowalski675 wrote:GT-Arrowhead wrote:"cream her knickers" eh?...i might have to start busting a few wheelies down the road in town after school Somehow I don't think that would work - you'd need an engine, an antisocial exhaust and an "all elbows and attitude" riding style. And she's not into schoolboys - she was only 25, but liked her men older, with a bit of grey in their hair, lol. Can't blame you for trying though, lol, she is a stunner. I remember one evening when we were riding through the outskirts of York on our way to the pub I hoisted a nice minger then she rode up alongside, looked across at me and pointed to her crotch - made me chuckle, lol. Happy days...
if she's 25 and likes older men grey hair etc.
how old r u :?:
is the bike a mid life crisis mobile?
GT it only works if you have a engine
get a motorbike or fast car :P0 -
Kowalski675 wrote:Step83 wrote:If it helps I know of at least two powder coaters that will do ut for £30 not sure on the whole colour range mind
Avoid industrial coaters (if that's what they are)- only use coaters who specialise in bike parts (or at the very least be very explicit about which areas and threads need masking from blasting and coating). A coater who doesn't understand bikes can do a lot of damage.
Thats a good point, I know one does quite a few bike frame both motor and push. Work seems pretty good. Im blaming GT for making me think about getting the frame sprayed. Anyone any ideas how easy it is with tins? Im assuming it needs a good 2K lacquer on after it0 -
Step83 wrote:Kowalski675 wrote:Step83 wrote:If it helps I know of at least two powder coaters that will do ut for £30 not sure on the whole colour range mind
Avoid industrial coaters (if that's what they are)- only use coaters who specialise in bike parts (or at the very least be very explicit about which areas and threads need masking from blasting and coating). A coater who doesn't understand bikes can do a lot of damage.
Thats a good point, I know one does quite a few bike frame both motor and push. Work seems pretty good. Im blaming GT for making me think about getting the frame sprayed. Anyone any ideas how easy it is with tins? Im assuming it needs a good 2K lacquer on after it
Lol. Sorry!
I found it pretty easy to do my one with tins. I cant say how much lacquer to use because i went for a matt black finish, so ofcourse didnt use a lacquer.
I found it quite easy, the only thing is, you have to do a fair share of sanding, especially in my case where some d1ck sprayed a horrendously thick and crap coat on my frame that i had to spend an age to remove...and i had to fill dents with primer and sand it to be smooth.
Never do it on a humid day, the paint does not settle properly, and the colour looks a bit funny. Made that mistake with a BMX project. Best conditions to do it in are clear skies so you dont get caught out by the crappy unpredictable english weather, and preferably when its as hot as possible. Then you should leave your sanded frame in the sun along with the spray cans themselves. This is the best way to do it because the heat means that the paint doesnt run. And having the paint at the same temperature helps that further.
Never rush it, or your results will make you wish you didnt. I can quote that from experience. I got lazy with my BMX.
When i did my BMX spray in the winter, the weather was poor for spraying, so i used a bit of genious. You can still do this if you have the right shed for it though:
In my shed ive got a wood burner since its quite large and homelike So i lit the woodburner and kept it going for a long while. Left my frame and cans in there to get nice and warm, then i took the frame outside, sprayed one coat, then quickly took it back into the shed and hanged it up, and i carried on doing this until i was done. The shed was like a bit of an oven if you know what i mean, must have been like 40-50 degrees in there, so it was good for the paint. If you dont have a homelike shed or garage like me, then youd probably spray in there anyway, but having a heat source is a good tip really. Maybe something like an electric heater.
Oh, and IMO, i think sanding back down to bare metal is completely unnecessary...i just use the original coat as a base coat, i just sand it down so that its smooth and faded, then i just apply my primer to that.0 -
Sounds like a plan forming here, ive a large 10X8 shed which right now is just over 20c, outside its 11c when it was sunny the other day it peaked at 45c 8) I think ill end up lobbing some helitape ove the bulk of the frame saves messing with lacquer
Terms of sanding id imagine if the paints quite thin it should just be a case of keying then prime an spray0 -
Go for it, your shed sounds like a more than adequate place to do it.
Spraying my GT again will be the first time that i use a lacquer. Bit nervous really. Im more keen on doing the lacquer than using helitape. 0 -
andrewgrundill wrote:Kowalski675 wrote:GT-Arrowhead wrote:"cream her knickers" eh?...i might have to start busting a few wheelies down the road in town after school Somehow I don't think that would work - you'd need an engine, an antisocial exhaust and an "all elbows and attitude" riding style. And she's not into schoolboys - she was only 25, but liked her men older, with a bit of grey in their hair, lol. Can't blame you for trying though, lol, she is a stunner. I remember one evening when we were riding through the outskirts of York on our way to the pub I hoisted a nice minger then she rode up alongside, looked across at me and pointed to her crotch - made me chuckle, lol. Happy days...
if she's 25 and likes older men grey hair etc.
how old r u :?:
I turned 40 in January Sounds so much older than 39, lol...is the bike a mid life crisis mobile?
My motorbikes? Nah, been riding bikes for twenty years. One of my bikes I've owned longer than young GT's been alive, lol.0 -
Step83 wrote:Kowalski675 wrote:Step83 wrote:If it helps I know of at least two powder coaters that will do ut for £30 not sure on the whole colour range mind
Avoid industrial coaters (if that's what they are)- only use coaters who specialise in bike parts (or at the very least be very explicit about which areas and threads need masking from blasting and coating). A coater who doesn't understand bikes can do a lot of damage.
Thats a good point, I know one does quite a few bike frame both motor and push. Work seems pretty good. Im blaming GT for making me think about getting the frame sprayed. Anyone any ideas how easy it is with tins? Im assuming it needs a good 2K lacquer on after it
Don't even think about using 2K lacquer at home (especially not in a confined space like a shed, god forbid). It is extremely toxic (isocyanates - cyanide, basically), and should only be used in a professional spray booth with air extraction, proper overalls and an air fed mask (the fumes can be absorbed through the eyes or skin even). Stick with cellulose.
The key to a good wet paint finish is meticulous preparation - if your prep isn't perfect then the end result will be crap, no matter how well you apply the paint. Given how cheap powdercoating is, why bother? You can get a professional, hard wearing powdercoat finish for little more (sometimes less) than you'll spend in materials painting it yourself.0 -
GT-Arrowhead wrote:Never do it on a humid day, the paint does not settle properly, and the colour looks a bit funny.
That's called blooming.then youd probably spray in there anyway, but having a heat source is a good tip really. Maybe something like an electric heater.
Don't forget that paint fumes are explosive and highly flammable...Oh, and IMO, i think sanding back down to bare metal is completely unnecessary...i just use the original coat as a base coat, i just sand it down so that its smooth and faded, then i just apply my primer to that.
If you're painting over existing paint then use a barrier coat primer, but really you should be stripping the frame to bare metal, which means loads of shitty work with Nitromors, or similar.0 -
Cyanide, explosives and fire... sounds like a cracking night for me!
I mentioned powder coaters but was ushered away from them as they may not protect things like the crank etc which will cause issues Seen a couple round my way who have frames coated in their online gallery cant see any coating in the crank or head tube.
An nitromors is great fun!0 -
Kowalski675 wrote:andrewgrundill wrote:Kowalski675 wrote:GT-Arrowhead wrote:"cream her knickers" eh?...i might have to start busting a few wheelies down the road in town after school Somehow I don't think that would work - you'd need an engine, an antisocial exhaust and an "all elbows and attitude" riding style. And she's not into schoolboys - she was only 25, but liked her men older, with a bit of grey in their hair, lol. Can't blame you for trying though, lol, she is a stunner. I remember one evening when we were riding through the outskirts of York on our way to the pub I hoisted a nice minger then she rode up alongside, looked across at me and pointed to her crotch - made me chuckle, lol. Happy days...
if she's 25 and likes older men grey hair etc.
how old r u :?:
I turned 40 in January Sounds so much older than 39, lol...is the bike a mid life crisis mobile?
My motorbikes? Nah, been riding bikes for twenty years. One of my bikes I've owned longer than young GT's been alive, lol.
soon time for a free bus pass.
I feel all young again at 24
GT you got all this joy to look forward to0 -
Well, im not looking forward to jack sh1t at the moment. I got 19 more GCSEs to do before im done with year 11...4x 1hour exams on monday, all of them on my weakest subjects...i might commit suicide. Lol! And the fact that Kowalski has owned a bike for more than ive been alive makes me feel really young.
And i dont need an engine, my friend came up with a theory that my new triple clamp fork "must get me loads of pussy". Hahaha. The interest in my bike must have tripled (pun intended) with that triple clamp fork. Well thats off now anyway, back to rigid!
Did a bit of spraying today, sprayed the rigid fork and my headset satin red. Looks pretty good!
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Step83 wrote:Cyanide, explosives and fire... sounds like a cracking night for me!
I mentioned powder coaters but was ushered away from them as they may not protect things like the crank etc which will cause issues Seen a couple round my way who have frames coated in their online gallery cant see any coating in the crank or head tube.
Hence my comment about not using industrial coaters - if they're used to doing gates, garden furniture etc they'll just blast and coat everything. You need the appropriate areas (and threads) masking, so need someone who knows what they're doing (and uses the appropriate blasting media). I'm no expert (on bicycles, I have loads of experience of having things powdercoated), but I'd guess the BB would need facing after coating if they've coated the edges, but if they mask the edges then (assuming it didn't need facing anyway before you started) then you should just be able to run a stanley blade over the faces to clean up the edges.An nitromors is great fun!
It's damn messy, lol. Unfortunately the current stuff doesn't work nearly as well either (blame the meddling EU, as usual...).0 -
andrewgrundill wrote:soon time for a free bus pass.
Cheeky t.wat, lol. At least people my age don't have to use buses, 'cos we can still get our cars insured for less than the three million quid that you youngsters have to payGT you got all this joy to look forward to
Not if he wants to play silly buggers on (motor)bikes he hasn't - between ever more draconian EU legislation, the ridiculous "speed is evil" mentality the lunatic fringe have managed to convince feeble minded idiots to buy into, speed cameras, over policing and insane petrol prices, motorcycling as a leisure pursuit is pretty much in endgame phase - in twenty years time they'll be no large capacity leisure motorcycling as we know it. The nineties were the glory years - if you missed the nineties, you missed the party.0 -
GT-Arrowhead wrote:4x 1hour exams on monday, all of them on my weakest subjects...i might commit suicide.
1 hour? That's not an exam, lol. When I did my A levels (not the kind your Mila Kunis lookalike escort does, lol...) we had two 3 hour exams in a day on most days.And the fact that Kowalski has owned a bike for more than ive been alive makes me feel really young.
Grrr. Makes me feel old. The Bandit's not far behind, had that 15 years in August.And i dont need an engine, my friend came up with a theory that my new triple clamp fork "must get me loads of pussy". Hahaha.
The pussy in your area must be easily impressed, lol. 0 -
Im dreading A levels....i picked all 3 sciences and maths. I cant see myself doing all of that!
The pussy dont care about what you ride its just something that a mate said cos he thought it looked nice. 0 -
GT-Arrowhead wrote:Im dreading A levels....i picked all 3 sciences and maths. I cant see myself doing all of that!
Don't worry about it, they're no big deal. I did geography, gelology, biology and general studies (couldn't do history 'cos I'm so old that it was still current affairs then...).The pussy dont care about what you ride
How come this got me laid then, lol?
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Hahaha, cheers Was biology hard?
Well ofcourse your gonna bloody get laid on that! Well to start with its a motorbike not a push bike, and secondly its red, thirdly, youve got gold floating discs, fourthly, the way the exhaust comes up from the back is sexy, and most most most importantly, its one of those bikes that has 1 rear dropout!!! That is the thing i love most on motorbikes. (i think its called a dropout? I just mean the motorbike equivalent of a chainstay ) 0 -
GT-Arrowhead wrote:Hahaha, cheers Was biology hard?
It's not that it's hard (none of them were), but there's a lot to remember. The only part where we all got a bit lost and switched off completely was genetics, which was probably the most complex part, and we'd been lumbered with a student teacher at that point who clearly didn't know what he was doing. Tbh I hated the subject though (and one of the two teachers we had for it), so really couldn't be bothered with it.Well ofcourse your gonna bloody get laid on that!
Ah, but it was the bedroom performance that kept her coming back for more, lol...Well to start with its a motorbike not a push bike, and secondly its red, thirdly, youve got gold floating discs, fourthly, the way the exhaust comes up from the back is sexy
It's acknowledged as one of the all time classic modern motorcycle designs, styled by Massimo Tamburini, it dropped the motorcycling world's jaws when it was launched in '94 and still looks achingly beautiful today (although fashions have moved away from under seat exhausts to low level pipes these days).and most most most importantly, its one of those bikes that has 1 rear dropout!!! That is the thing i love most on motorbikes. (i think its called a dropout? I just mean the motorbike equivalent of a chainstay)
You mean the single sided swingarm. They were designed by Honda back in the eighties to allow quick wheel changes in endurance racing. These days they're not necessary for that (due to modern quick release wheel mechanisms, captive spacers and brake calipers etc), so they disappeared from race bikes (they're heavier than a double sided arm for the same amount of rigidity), but still appear on some road bikes (mainly Ducati and Triumph), because they look so good (the forged Marchesini wheels were pretty lovely too).0
