Should shops now sell horse and would you buy it?

SteppenHerring

Asprilla wrote:

Horse is some good eatin'.

No problem with that, or donkey, or most mammals for that matter. Not ready to move to insects yet.

Yeah, I'd have a problem with insects - which is daft considering I really like prawns.

Nothing wrong with a bit of horse. The worrying thing is that major food retailers seem to have no control over what is in their products. If they don't even know what animal it's from then how can they know whether it's diseased, whether it's been slaughtered according to welfare and hygiene standards etc.?

bompington

walkingbootweather wrote:

rubertoe wrote:

we used to end up with all sorts of game in the fridge/freezer or hanging fron the kitchen ceiling.

Aren't you worried about the Risk?

but meat doesn't have a monopoly on risk, so if you don't have a cluedo n't post on here. I'm scrabbling for more examples though.

nicklouse

Cleat Eastwood wrote:

I also read in a QI book I got a while back that dog is quite popular in......Sweden of all places.

never came across that in 11 years.

daviesee

I have no problem eating Thumper, Bambi, Daisy, Bo's little lamb, Donald or Porky, why would I have trouble with Shergar?

Your price point is moot though as horse meat will be no cheaper to produce than quality beef or venison.

asprilla

Just for info; BBQ squirrel is pretty good too.

DonDaddyD

So the real question is, could I not sue <<insert restaurant/food supplier>> for false advertising or selling me an unsafe product. Greg, you're the commerical lawyer come on! Dondaddyd vs Burger King.

walkingbootweather

daviesee wrote:

Your price point is moot though as horse meat will be no cheaper to produce than quality beef or venison.

True. I believe venison is a little deer.

veronese68

I've had horse in Italy, delicious. My wife, a veggie, wasn't so keen on me eating it. My mother often makes rabbit stew, also delicious. I've also had brains, not bad but a bit odd.

rubertoe

bompington wrote:

walkingbootweather wrote:

rubertoe wrote:

we used to end up with all sorts of game in the fridge/freezer or hanging fron the kitchen ceiling.

Aren't you worried about the Risk?

but meat doesn't have a monopoly on risk, so if you don't have a cluedo n't post on here. I'm scrabbling for more examples though.

The risk of what?

CiB

Kieran_Burns wrote:

That'd be a whole new twist to attending the Quorn Hunt

Good, v good.

Rabbit's good, so is pheasant, goose, reindeer (had it in Finland - a bit chewy but nice) so any opposition to horse is based on sentimentality rather than physiological reasons.

It must have been the norm once anyway - where does the phrase "I'm so hungry I could..." come from?

DonDaddyD

I'd eat a camel toe - heheheh...

couldn't resist.

davis

I've eaten horse and kangaroo, wild boar, cute fluffy bunnies and lots of game. It's all tasty.

What's more important to me is the meat's provenance, and the fact the animal I'm eating didn't eat meat itself. I wouldn't, for example, eat dog.

Having said that I won't eat dolphin, turtle, or a few other "special" animals. I also won't eat (Pâté de) Foie Gras, even though it's delicious, because I wouldn't be happy force-feeding animals. I won't eat anything I wouldn't have been happy to [capable of] kill/produce myself...

asprilla

rubertoe wrote:

bompington wrote:

walkingbootweather wrote:

rubertoe wrote:

we used to end up with all sorts of game in the fridge/freezer or hanging fron the kitchen ceiling.

Aren't you worried about the Risk?

but meat doesn't have a monopoly on risk, so if you don't have a cluedo n't post on here. I'm scrabbling for more examples though.

The risk of what?

Bad puns

rubertoe

Asprilla wrote:

rubertoe wrote:

bompington wrote:

walkingbootweather wrote:

rubertoe wrote:

we used to end up with all sorts of game in the fridge/freezer or hanging fron the kitchen ceiling.

Aren't you worried about the Risk?

but meat doesn't have a monopoly on risk, so if you don't have a cluedo n't post on here. I'm scrabbling for more examples though.

The risk of what?

Bad puns

Doh,

IGMC.

davmaggs

People should add grey squirrel to the list. Admittedly they are thin, but leaving a net out in the garden would be easy.

In terms of the Findus issue, I'd like the enquiry to investigate the wholesale cost of beef of the quality that they said they were ordering, and to then investigate if Findus was underpaying e.g they knew respectable suppliers couldn't meet the price for the specification, but decided not to ask.

I think that this type of question applied to this issue and government procurements (non food) would show up the management more than the technicals typically focused on.

jomoj

I wish someone would eat the hoofed bast*rds that leave massive dumps on the bridleway I have to ride along in the dark on the way home. Hit one of those at 20mph and you'll know about it.

nicklouse

davis wrote:

What's more important to me is the meat's provenance,

now this is mad

"Swedes eat 70 tonnes of fake beef"

http://www.thelocal.se/45440/20130105/

asprilla

davmaggs wrote:

People should add grey squirrel to the list. Admittedly they are thin, but leaving a net out in the garden would be easy.

I've mentioned it already. I shoot them in the back garden and then BBQ them. Not much meat but they are good to snack on whilst tending the steaks.

Clever Pun

DonDaddyD wrote:

Right then,

I go into Morrisons and I've got an option of chicken, turkey, pork, lamb and beef, and now that I have been forced to accept my 'upper-lower middle class' status, venison. Oh, and when I'm feeling decidedly Jamaican I am quite partial to the odd goat (which you can't get it Morrisons) curried into a 'curry-goat' or ox-tail.

I got this far and just burst out laughing

Horse meat is tasty, it would never be cheap in the uk

Clever Pun

davis wrote:

I've eaten horse and kangaroo, wild boar, cute fluffy bunnies and lots of game. It's all tasty.

What's more important to me is the meat's provenance, and the fact the animal I'm eating didn't eat meat itself. I wouldn't, for example, eat dog.

Having said that I won't eat dolphin, turtle, or a few other "special" animals. I also won't eat (Pâté de) Foie Gras, even though it's delicious, because I wouldn't be happy force-feeding animals. I won't eat anything I wouldn't have been happy to [capable of] kill/produce myself...

What about fish.. a lot of those eat other fish

Pigs will most likely have been cannibals or chicken in their feed.. as will chickens have eaten various forms of meat. I've seen a chicken eat a mouse before... unnerving.

MisterMuncher

Oh, squirrel isn't a bad ould bite at all.

davis

Clever Pun wrote:

davis wrote:

I've eaten horse and kangaroo, wild boar, cute fluffy bunnies and lots of game. It's all tasty.

What's more important to me is the meat's provenance, and the fact the animal I'm eating didn't eat meat itself. I wouldn't, for example, eat dog.

Having said that I won't eat dolphin, turtle, or a few other "special" animals. I also won't eat (Pâté de) Foie Gras, even though it's delicious, because I wouldn't be happy force-feeding animals. I won't eat anything I wouldn't have been happy to [capable of] kill/produce myself...

What about fish.. a lot of those eat other fish

Pigs will most likely have been cannibals or chicken in their feed.. as will chickens have eaten various forms of meat. I've seen a chicken eat a mouse before... unnerving.

Hmm. Bugger. You and your uncanny ability to make me question my values. Hadn't even considered the pig aspect (though I'm not sure why; I *knew* pigs are complete omnivores). Not sure I'm too worried about fish v. fish or chicken v. mouse, but I should think about it a bit.

So, no opinion yet, 'cos I haven't thought about it enough.

davmaggs

Asprilla wrote:

davmaggs wrote:

People should add grey squirrel to the list. Admittedly they are thin, but leaving a net out in the garden would be easy.

I've mentioned it already. I shoot them in the back garden and then BBQ them. Not much meat but they are good to snack on whilst tending the steaks.

I now have a reason to buy an air rifle, always wanted one. A shotgun ruins the fence.

DrLex

Anyone for Spaghetti Bologneighs instead?

rjsterry

Kieran_Burns

rubertoe wrote:

The whole how it got into the food chain is a good point, i'd imagine like most places Findus outsource the making of their products and then just stick them in findus packaging, and if horse meat is cheap, then it's going to be used.

Rabbit is delicious BTW, my mums neighbour regularly goes shooting so we used to end up with all sorts of game in the fridge/freezer or hanging fron the kitchen ceiling.

Yeah... Findus found contaminated meat in their Fish fingers... Sea Horse.

andy9964

Kieran_Burns wrote:

I'm vegetarian. We laugh at your dilemma

Mind if I join you in a smug snigger ?

rjsterry

davmaggs wrote:

Asprilla wrote:

davmaggs wrote:

People should add grey squirrel to the list. Admittedly they are thin, but leaving a net out in the garden would be easy.

I've mentioned it already. I shoot them in the back garden and then BBQ them. Not much meat but they are good to snack on whilst tending the steaks.

I now have a reason to buy an air rifle, always wanted one. A shotgun ruins the fence.

Plus there's so little meat on a squirrel, you risk puree-ing it at close range

msmancunia

Even though I'll eat veal, fish,rabbit, beef, game, lamb and pork, and will eat offal until it's coming out of my ears, I have to say I do draw the line at horse. I have no idea why. Used to ride when I was younger, and you do get to know the different characters - so maybe I see them more as a pet then as a steak.

PS: I am at the moment eating a piece of what I've been reliably informed is ostrich biltong, given to me by a South African colleague. It's very chewy and doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

schweiz

Andy9964 wrote:

Kieran_Burns wrote:

I'm vegetarian. We laugh at your dilemma

Mind if I join you in a smug snigger ?

Just you wait until horse meat is found in Linda McCartney Deep Country Pies...we'll see who's sniggering then!