Seemingly trivial things that annoy you

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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,892
    Let's keep it trivial 😃
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Who cares about the health benefits. It’s not milk.

  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,953
    Main problem for me with these milk substitutes is that they taste a bit crap. Otherwise I'd have no problem drinking them.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,802
    Stevo_666 said:

    Main problem for me with these milk substitutes is that they taste a bit censored . Otherwise I'd have no problem drinking them.

    The solution has already been invented. Identical tasting milk, cream, cheese, ice cream etc. 99% less water 97% less greenhouse gases.
    https://perfectday.com/

    I think it's being stymied by protectionist governments and obviously dairy farming.
  • capt_slog
    capt_slog Posts: 3,974
    As a family, we've attended the Remembrance Day at the local war memorial when we've been able to do so, and this year we had my little grandson and baby granddaughter as part of our turn-out.

    As usual it was lead by one of the ministers from the two village churches. They take it in turns between the Methodist and CoE that are on opposite sides of the road. This year it was the Methodist.

    Now I don't mind a bit of 'god' being brought into it, that's their thing obviously. But bearing in mind that there were a lot of people who never set foot in a church, plus some Sikhs and possibly other religions present, I found a 15 minute sermon a bit much.

    This was labelled as "Reflection" in the order of service, but was actually a word salad that seemed to have little if anything to do with the day. In fact one sentence had little to do with it's neighbour!

    This might have been acceptable if they'd managed to get the service right in the first place, but between them they managed to miss out the "2 minutes silence". The Last Post was played and then some idiot thought that was their cue to read a poem and following that people started laying wreaths.

    The bugler (who we know) was shaking his head at this point, he was waiting to play the Reveille.

    Ah well. Rant over.


    The older I get, the better I was.

  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,592
    masjer said:

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    80% of the total farmland worldwide is used to rear livestock. If the world went vegan it would free up the land mass of the EU, China, USA and Australia combined.

    ...

    Woah! Wait a minute, where would the vegan food supply be grown?
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  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,802
    pblakeney said:

    masjer said:

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    80% of the total farmland worldwide is used to rear livestock. If the world went vegan it would free up the land mass of the EU, China, USA and Australia combined.

    ...

    Woah! Wait a minute, where would the vegan food supply be grown?
    That's taken into account in the calculation.
    It's more efficient to directly eat plants for calories and protein than it is to feed plants to animals then harvest the animals for calories and protein.
    80% of the entire farmland is used to raise animals, but that only supplies 17% of total calories.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,666
    pblakeney said:

    masjer said:

    ...

    80% of the total farmland worldwide is used to rear livestock. If the world went vegan it would free up the land mass of the EU, China, USA and Australia combined.

    ...

    Woah! Wait a minute, where would the vegan food supply be grown?
    That's got to be a wind up
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,079
    masjer said:

    pblakeney said:

    masjer said:

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    80% of the total farmland worldwide is used to rear livestock. If the world went vegan it would free up the land mass of the EU, China, USA and Australia combined.

    ...

    Woah! Wait a minute, where would the vegan food supply be grown?
    That's taken into account in the calculation.
    It's more efficient to directly eat plants for calories and protein than it is to feed plants to animals then harvest the animals for calories and protein.
    80% of the entire farmland is used to raise animals, but that only supplies 17% of total calories.
    Some of the land used for animals is not suitable for growing food though.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,928

    masjer said:

    pblakeney said:

    masjer said:

    ...

    80% of the total farmland worldwide is used to rear livestock. If the world went vegan it would free up the land mass of the EU, China, USA and Australia combined.

    ...

    Woah! Wait a minute, where would the vegan food supply be grown?
    That's taken into account in the calculation.
    It's more efficient to directly eat plants for calories and protein than it is to feed plants to animals then harvest the animals for calories and protein.
    80% of the entire farmland is used to raise animals, but that only supplies 17% of total calories.
    Some of the land used for animals is not suitable for growing food though.

    Quite so. In the UK, dairy tends towards land which is more marginal for grain crops, and on better land is incorporated into rotational use of land. It's disingenuous to lump all dairy under the same umbrella: there's no or little of the feed lot/prairie diary farming in the UK that is the norm in the US.

    But that's not to say that dairy practices can't be be improved: it's quite possible for diary production to reduce the use of soya, though I guess that would have an upward effect on production costs.
  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,802
    edited November 2022

    masjer said:

    pblakeney said:

    masjer said:

    ...

    80% of the total farmland worldwide is used to rear livestock. If the world went vegan it would free up the land mass of the EU, China, USA and Australia combined.

    ...

    Woah! Wait a minute, where would the vegan food supply be grown?
    That's taken into account in the calculation.
    It's more efficient to directly eat plants for calories and protein than it is to feed plants to animals then harvest the animals for calories and protein.
    80% of the entire farmland is used to raise animals, but that only supplies 17% of total calories.
    Some of the land used for animals is not suitable for growing food though.
    Some unsuitable pasture (for crops) could be rewilded. Some could be used for growing crops. You'd also free up all the good growing land that's currently used to grow animal feed.
    There's 10 million hectares of permanent grassland in the UK, all used for grazing sheep and cattle- basically 'green concrete'.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,953
    masjer said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Main problem for me with these milk substitutes is that they taste a bit censored . Otherwise I'd have no problem drinking them.

    The solution has already been invented. Identical tasting milk, cream, cheese, ice cream etc. 99% less water 97% less greenhouse gases.
    https://perfectday.com/

    I think it's being stymied by protectionist governments and obviously dairy farming.
    I'm pretty sure if the supermarkets thought it would sell then they would put it on the shelves, rather than it being prevented by some sort of high level conspiracy.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,802
    Stevo_666 said:

    masjer said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Main problem for me with these milk substitutes is that they taste a bit censored . Otherwise I'd have no problem drinking them.

    The solution has already been invented. Identical tasting milk, cream, cheese, ice cream etc. 99% less water 97% less greenhouse gases.
    https://perfectday.com/

    I think it's being stymied by protectionist governments and obviously dairy farming.
    I'm pretty sure if the supermarkets thought it would sell then they would put it on the shelves, rather than it being prevented by some sort of high level conspiracy.
    Or they're worried 10,000 farmers could turn up in their tractors at Westminster towing full loads of slurry.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,953
    edited November 2022
    masjer said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    masjer said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Main problem for me with these milk substitutes is that they taste a bit censored . Otherwise I'd have no problem drinking them.

    The solution has already been invented. Identical tasting milk, cream, cheese, ice cream etc. 99% less water 97% less greenhouse gases.
    https://perfectday.com/

    I think it's being stymied by protectionist governments and obviously dairy farming.
    I'm pretty sure if the supermarkets thought it would sell then they would put it on the shelves, rather than it being prevented by some sort of high level conspiracy.
    Or they're worried 10,000 farmers could turn up in their tractors at Westminster towing full loads of slurry.
    Don't fret. This is the UK, not France.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,592
    pangolin said:

    pblakeney said:

    masjer said:

    ...

    80% of the total farmland worldwide is used to rear livestock. If the world went vegan it would free up the land mass of the EU, China, USA and Australia combined.

    ...

    Woah! Wait a minute, where would the vegan food supply be grown?
    That's got to be a wind up
    Why?
    As it’s not something I’ve had any prior knowledge of it was a genuine question.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,079
    masjer said:

    masjer said:

    pblakeney said:

    masjer said:

    ...

    80% of the total farmland worldwide is used to rear livestock. If the world went vegan it would free up the land mass of the EU, China, USA and Australia combined.

    ...

    Woah! Wait a minute, where would the vegan food supply be grown?
    That's taken into account in the calculation.
    It's more efficient to directly eat plants for calories and protein than it is to feed plants to animals then harvest the animals for calories and protein.
    80% of the entire farmland is used to raise animals, but that only supplies 17% of total calories.
    Some of the land used for animals is not suitable for growing food though.
    Some unsuitable pasture (for crops) could be rewilded. Some could be used for growing crops. You'd also free up all the good growing land that's currently used to grow animal feed.
    There's 10 million hectares of permanent grassland in the UK, all used for grazing sheep and cattle- basically 'green concrete'.
    I'm not arguing that the current amount of meat consumption couldn't be improved, but I dislike the thought process that somehow all meat consumption is inefficient. Subsistence farmers focus mostly on crops, but many will have a goat or two as they feed themselves on land that can't be used to grow crops. They can also provide milk. They are not being inefficient.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,666
    pblakeney said:

    pangolin said:

    pblakeney said:

    masjer said:

    ...

    80% of the total farmland worldwide is used to rear livestock. If the world went vegan it would free up the land mass of the EU, China, USA and Australia combined.

    ...

    Woah! Wait a minute, where would the vegan food supply be grown?
    That's got to be a wind up
    Why?
    As it’s not something I’ve had any prior knowledge of it was a genuine question.
    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/land-use-protein-poore
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,592
    pangolin said:

    pblakeney said:

    pangolin said:

    pblakeney said:

    masjer said:

    ...

    80% of the total farmland worldwide is used to rear livestock. If the world went vegan it would free up the land mass of the EU, China, USA and Australia combined.

    ...

    Woah! Wait a minute, where would the vegan food supply be grown?
    That's got to be a wind up
    Why?
    As it’s not something I’ve had any prior knowledge of it was a genuine question.
    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/land-use-protein-poore
    Sorry if I’ve misled you but my reason for no prior knowledge is having zero interest.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,666
    pblakeney said:

    pangolin said:

    pblakeney said:

    pangolin said:

    pblakeney said:

    masjer said:

    ...

    80% of the total farmland worldwide is used to rear livestock. If the world went vegan it would free up the land mass of the EU, China, USA and Australia combined.

    ...

    Woah! Wait a minute, where would the vegan food supply be grown?
    That's got to be a wind up
    Why?
    As it’s not something I’ve had any prior knowledge of it was a genuine question.
    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/land-use-protein-poore
    Sorry if I’ve misled you but my reason for no prior knowledge is having zero interest.
    Right. So wind up, not genuine question.

    👍
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,592
    edited November 2022
    pangolin said:

    pblakeney said:

    pangolin said:

    pblakeney said:

    pangolin said:

    pblakeney said:

    masjer said:

    ...

    80% of the total farmland worldwide is used to rear livestock. If the world went vegan it would free up the land mass of the EU, China, USA and Australia combined.

    ...

    Woah! Wait a minute, where would the vegan food supply be grown?
    That's got to be a wind up
    Why?
    As it’s not something I’ve had any prior knowledge of it was a genuine question.
    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/land-use-protein-poore
    Sorry if I’ve misled you but my reason for no prior knowledge is having zero interest.
    Right. So wind up, not genuine question.

    👍
    Incorrectamundo. Masjer’s response was quite adequate.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,619
    masjer said:


    I'll say it again, 80% of all soy production goes to feed animals.

    I'm not disagreeing but just because the majority of Soya goes to feed animals, doesn't mean to say you should eat Soya or drink derivatives.
    That 20% must add up to a considerable environmental foot print.

    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,802
    edited November 2022
    pinno said:

    masjer said:


    I'll say it again, 80% of all soy production goes to feed animals.

    I'm not disagreeing but just because the majority of Soya goes to feed animals, doesn't mean to say you should eat Soya or drink derivatives.
    That 20% must add up to a considerable environmental foot print.

    I don't know the quantities, but some of that 20% goes into industry.
    Anyhoo, I've got no worries or health concerns with soy. I guess just being alive has a large environmental impact*, whatever you do.- *some larger than others.
    I don't know the answers, but Just trying my best.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,619
    masjer said:

    pinno said:

    masjer said:


    I'll say it again, 80% of all soy production goes to feed animals.

    I'm not disagreeing but just because the majority of Soya goes to feed animals, doesn't mean to say you should eat Soya or drink derivatives.
    That 20% must add up to a considerable environmental foot print.

    I don't know the quantities, but some of that 20% goes into industry.
    Anyhoo, I've got no worries or health concerns with soy. I guess just being alive has a large environmental impact*, whatever you do.- *some larger than others.
    I don't know the answers, but Just trying my best.
    With certain things, it is increasingly more complicated to make the right decisions (if there are 'right' one's).
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,465
    Football commentary use of the term "fisting" the ball away, instead of punch.

    When I think of someone "fisting away", it's a totally different thing.
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,844

    Football commentary use of the term "fisting" the ball away, instead of punch.

    When I think of someone "fisting away", it's a totally different thing.

    Also highly illegal in Qatar.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Depends on who's on the receiving end, tbf.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,680
    The c0cky tw@t on Pop Master this morning.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,666
    edited November 2022
    Need to get the train somewhere next month for work.

    It's about £300 to go there and back on the day.
    £230 inc hotel to go off peak the day before.
    Under £100 to drive.

    Stupid.

    I could actually claim about £180 in mileage so I'd make money.
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,892
    New cooker delivered today. Installation all going fine, but then installer finds a fault with the new cooker. Will have to go back and a new one be sent out. Fair enough; stuff happens. The annoying bit was that the scrap metal vultures had already swiped the old one from outside the house (installer was due to take away) so now we have just a microwave for a week. Balls.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited November 2022
    While I enjoy the fact Netflix can cater for niches that would never be broadcast on national broadcasts (I loved the taco chronicals which is extremely niche), i get annoyed that they are incentivised to draw out the programmes, especially documentaries, rather than taking a tighter editorial approach.

    Most documentaries on there can easily be cut by 30%.