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Above The Cows wrote:The things that connect the terminal to the plane, always called them toothpaste tubes in my family. Any aviation engineers here?
Nodes ;-) The bits before the nodes are VCCs (Vertical circulating cores)0 -
Richmond Racer wrote:Pressure on the Evil Duo...mind you, they seem impervious to anything and everything...but sponsors pulling out could just be what it finally takes to boot Evil Hein at least
http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2012/10/20/ned ... enoeg-aan/0 -
AndyRAC wrote:What about Royal Dutch Shell- Giant??? Or Amstel-Giant, or Phillips-Giant???0
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I wonder if sponsors leave if the cycle of doping just starts all over again?
If we end up with less sponsors and less money in the sport there will be a temptation to improve quickly to get more sponsors/money, the easiest way would be to start doping and get an advantage. And then it will happen again0 -
liquor box wrote:I wonder if sponsors leave if the cycle of doping just starts all over again?
If we end up with less sponsors and less money in the sport there will be a temptation to improve quickly to get more sponsors/money, the easiest way would be to start doping and get an advantage. And then it will happen again
The only way to stop those with the money going down the doping route is to convince them that the risk of getting caught/losing their money is greater than the rewards.
So you have to convince them that 1) there is a high risk of getting caught and 2) once caught the sanctions will be great enough to significantly damage their reputation/lose them money.0 -
errrum!
Maybe not, shame I thought the sport was actually getting cleaner now :roll:0 -
Millar's letter to Dutch broadsheet De Volkskrant
http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/3184/opi ... apot.dhtml
I 'm sure google tranlate does a reasonable job...
Nothing shocking - we're on the right track, things are changing, winning clean is possible, etc etc0 -
Thank goodness...finally released from the evil Rabo PTP curse!
Now it'll just have to be anti-Murdoch!Half man, Half bike0 -
Ridgerider wrote:Thank goodness...finally released from the evil Rabo PTP curse!
Now it'll just have to be anti-Murdoch!
I'd go Saur Sojasun for next season, if I were you: if you can't trust the French, who can you trust?0 -
FJS wrote:Millar's letter to Dutch broadsheet De Volkskrant
http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/3184/opi ... apot.dhtml
I 'm sure google tranlate does a reasonable job...
Nothing shocking - we're on the right track, things are changing, winning clean is possible, etc etc
Only 1 in 4 comments below the article support david's stance.0 -
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Some good pictures. So bizarre to see riders sprinting and racing without helmets.You live and learn. At any rate, you live0
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Apologies if this has been suggested elsewhere, but it occurs to me that maybe Rabo might actually only be taking their name out of cycling for the next year (whilst still paying wages to a core team - albeit in white); in the meantime, they gauge the internal/external pro cycling opinion (and wait for all this ghastly beastliness to blow over) with a view to (hopefully) returning as knights in shining orange armour with a (non) squeaky clean outfit (now that they've been WD40'd up).
I appreciate that this might seem like a naive/cheery anti-Eeyore (me) trying to pluck a Phoenix feather from a pile of vom...
Worth a try.0 -
OCDuPalais wrote:Apologies if this has been suggested elsewhere, but it occurs to me that maybe Rabo might actually only be taking their name out of cycling for the next year (whilst still paying wages to a core team - albeit in white); in the meantime, they gauge the internal/external pro cycling opinion (and wait for all this ghastly beastliness to blow over) with a view to (hopefully) returning as knights in shining orange armour with a (non) squeaky clean outfit (now that they've been WD40'd up).
I appreciate that this might seem like a naive/cheery anti-Eeyore (me) trying to pluck a Phoenix feather from a pile of vom...
Worth a try.0 -
frenchfighter wrote:
Good photo of Laurens Ten Dam, he is so hard.0 -
frenchfighter wrote:
Just look at the first photo: Johan Bruyneel, Viatcheslav Ekimov, Rolf Sorensen and Erik Breuikin.
They were fkucked from the get go.It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.0 -
Timoid. wrote:frenchfighter wrote:
Just look at the first photo: Johan Bruyneel, Viatcheslav Ekimov, Rolf Sorensen and Erik Breuikin.
They were fkucked from the get go.
The one of Bruyneel in the ditch - shame they didnt heap a tonne of earth over him and bury him there0 -
OCDuPalais wrote:Apologies if this has been suggested elsewhere, but it occurs to me that maybe Rabo might actually only be taking their name out of cycling for the next year (whilst still paying wages to a core team - albeit in white); in the meantime, they gauge the internal/external pro cycling opinion (and wait for all this ghastly beastliness to blow over) with a view to (hopefully) returning as knights in shining orange armour with a (non) squeaky clean outfit (now that they've been WD40'd up).
I appreciate that this might seem like a naive/cheery anti-Eeyore (me) trying to pluck a Phoenix feather from a pile of vom...
Worth a try.
I think you're smoking something :?0 -
Bruyneel had his ups and downs whilst with Rabobank...
At last it seems the f*ker is going down a lot further than this0 -
Anyone else posted this yet?
http://www.wijkopendeploeg.nl/?lang=en
Anyone in for a share? I would have bought in had they signed Cav0 -
just spotted it and pledged my 10 Euro - only 2 days left though, so little hope of getting therehttp://veloviewer.com/SigImage.php?a=3370a&r=3&c=5&u=M&g=p&f=abcdefghij&z=a.png
Wiliers: Cento Uno/Superleggera R and Zero 7. Bianchi Infinito CV and Oltre XR20 -
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liquor box wrote:OCDuPalais wrote:Apologies if this has been suggested elsewhere, but it occurs to me that maybe Rabo might actually only be taking their name out of cycling for the next year (whilst still paying wages to a core team - albeit in white); in the meantime, they gauge the internal/external pro cycling opinion (and wait for all this ghastly beastliness to blow over) with a view to (hopefully) returning as knights in shining orange armour with a (non) squeaky clean outfit (now that they've been WD40'd up).
I appreciate that this might seem like a naive/cheery anti-Eeyore (me) trying to pluck a Phoenix feather from a pile of vom...
Worth a try.0 -
ratherbeintobago wrote:
I bet JV is having a quiet snigger somewhere.0 -
ratherbeintobago wrote:In concrete terms, this won’t have any effect on the cycling team0