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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Think so.

    Remember reading that he was still being investigated.

    Might be wrong.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
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    Twitter: @RichN95
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    RichN95 wrote:
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    I was lucky enough to be in the same tube carriage as half the Dutch Ladies Hockey team. Was soooo tempted to deliberately miss my stop.
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • Paul 8v
    Paul 8v Posts: 5,458
    The things that connect the terminal to the plane, always called them toothpaste tubes in my family. Any aviation engineers here?

    Nodes ;-) The bits before the nodes are VCCs (Vertical circulating cores)
  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    Pressure on the Evil Duo...mind you, they seem impervious to anything and everything...but sponsors pulling out could just be what it finally takes to boot Evil Hein at least
    Perhaps. One effect of Rabo stepping out seems now suddenly the Dutch cycling federation taking a critical view of the UCI, even talking of breaking away from the UCI. Off the cuff reaction, but still

    http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2012/10/20/ned ... enoeg-aan/
  • AndyRAC wrote:
    What about Royal Dutch Shell- Giant??? Or Amstel-Giant, or Phillips-Giant???
    I would rather Giant/Micro Solutions, or any other company that has a "small" names as it would be quite humerous.
  • I wonder if sponsors leave if the cycle of doping just starts all over again?

    If we end up with less sponsors and less money in the sport there will be a temptation to improve quickly to get more sponsors/money, the easiest way would be to start doping and get an advantage. And then it will happen again
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    liquor box wrote:
    I wonder if sponsors leave if the cycle of doping just starts all over again?

    If we end up with less sponsors and less money in the sport there will be a temptation to improve quickly to get more sponsors/money, the easiest way would be to start doping and get an advantage. And then it will happen again

    The only way to stop those with the money going down the doping route is to convince them that the risk of getting caught/losing their money is greater than the rewards.

    So you have to convince them that 1) there is a high risk of getting caught and 2) once caught the sanctions will be great enough to significantly damage their reputation/lose them money.
  • Ron Stuart
    Ron Stuart Posts: 1,242
    errrum!
    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ-iM2udr7LaQ6XoSfZ60hmQ-NiHWCyw7XN-ykBvfb1jMUTluJfPQ

    Maybe not, shame I thought the sport was actually getting cleaner now :roll:
  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    Millar's letter to Dutch broadsheet De Volkskrant

    http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/3184/opi ... apot.dhtml
    I 'm sure google tranlate does a reasonable job...

    Nothing shocking - we're on the right track, things are changing, winning clean is possible, etc etc
  • ridgerider
    ridgerider Posts: 2,852
    Thank goodness...finally released from the evil Rabo PTP curse!

    Now it'll just have to be anti-Murdoch!
    Half man, Half bike
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    Ridgerider wrote:
    Thank goodness...finally released from the evil Rabo PTP curse!

    Now it'll just have to be anti-Murdoch!

    I'd go Saur Sojasun for next season, if I were you: if you can't trust the French, who can you trust?
  • skylla
    skylla Posts: 758
    FJS wrote:
    Millar's letter to Dutch broadsheet De Volkskrant

    http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/3184/opi ... apot.dhtml
    I 'm sure google tranlate does a reasonable job...

    Nothing shocking - we're on the right track, things are changing, winning clean is possible, etc etc

    Only 1 in 4 comments below the article support david's stance.
  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    Some good pictures. So bizarre to see riders sprinting and racing without helmets.
    You live and learn. At any rate, you live
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    Apologies if this has been suggested elsewhere, but it occurs to me that maybe Rabo might actually only be taking their name out of cycling for the next year (whilst still paying wages to a core team - albeit in white); in the meantime, they gauge the internal/external pro cycling opinion (and wait for all this ghastly beastliness to blow over) with a view to (hopefully) returning as knights in shining orange armour with a (non) squeaky clean outfit (now that they've been WD40'd up).

    I appreciate that this might seem like a naive/cheery anti-Eeyore (me) trying to pluck a Phoenix feather from a pile of vom...

    Worth a try.
  • OCDuPalais wrote:
    Apologies if this has been suggested elsewhere, but it occurs to me that maybe Rabo might actually only be taking their name out of cycling for the next year (whilst still paying wages to a core team - albeit in white); in the meantime, they gauge the internal/external pro cycling opinion (and wait for all this ghastly beastliness to blow over) with a view to (hopefully) returning as knights in shining orange armour with a (non) squeaky clean outfit (now that they've been WD40'd up).

    I appreciate that this might seem like a naive/cheery anti-Eeyore (me) trying to pluck a Phoenix feather from a pile of vom...

    Worth a try.
    not to mention that if the percieved value of sponsoring cycling is lower, they will buy back in at a vastly lower cost
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133

    Just look at the first photo: Johan Bruyneel, Viatcheslav Ekimov, Rolf Sorensen and Erik Breuikin.

    They were fkucked from the get go.
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • Timoid. wrote:

    Just look at the first photo: Johan Bruyneel, Viatcheslav Ekimov, Rolf Sorensen and Erik Breuikin.

    They were fkucked from the get go.


    The one of Bruyneel in the ditch - shame they didnt heap a tonne of earth over him and bury him there
  • OCDuPalais wrote:
    Apologies if this has been suggested elsewhere, but it occurs to me that maybe Rabo might actually only be taking their name out of cycling for the next year (whilst still paying wages to a core team - albeit in white); in the meantime, they gauge the internal/external pro cycling opinion (and wait for all this ghastly beastliness to blow over) with a view to (hopefully) returning as knights in shining orange armour with a (non) squeaky clean outfit (now that they've been WD40'd up).

    I appreciate that this might seem like a naive/cheery anti-Eeyore (me) trying to pluck a Phoenix feather from a pile of vom...

    Worth a try.

    I think you're smoking something :?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    RichN95 wrote:
    Basically it comes down to this:

    At the Christmas party they want to see a little less of this

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    And a little more of this

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    Don't we all? Even the Ten Dam photo is a step up from our usual Christmas party!
  • andy_wrx
    andy_wrx Posts: 3,396
    rabobruyneel.jpg
    Bruyneel had his ups and downs whilst with Rabobank...

    At last it seems the f*ker is going down a lot further than this :)
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    Anyone else posted this yet?

    http://www.wijkopendeploeg.nl/?lang=en

    Anyone in for a share? I would have bought in had they signed Cav ;)
  • ilm_zero7
    ilm_zero7 Posts: 2,213
    just spotted it and pledged my 10 Euro - only 2 days left though, so little hope of getting there
    http://veloviewer.com/SigImage.php?a=3370a&r=3&c=5&u=M&g=p&f=abcdefghij&z=a.png
    Wiliers: Cento Uno/Superleggera R and Zero 7. Bianchi Infinito CV and Oltre XR2
  • Big Mat pull out now - not exactly the big name sponsor people were expecting to be next...

    Andy
  • pat1cp
    pat1cp Posts: 766
    liquor box wrote:
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    Apologies if this has been suggested elsewhere, but it occurs to me that maybe Rabo might actually only be taking their name out of cycling for the next year (whilst still paying wages to a core team - albeit in white); in the meantime, they gauge the internal/external pro cycling opinion (and wait for all this ghastly beastliness to blow over) with a view to (hopefully) returning as knights in shining orange armour with a (non) squeaky clean outfit (now that they've been WD40'd up).

    I appreciate that this might seem like a naive/cheery anti-Eeyore (me) trying to pluck a Phoenix feather from a pile of vom...

    Worth a try.
    not to mention that if the percieved value of sponsoring cycling is lower, they will buy back in at a vastly lower cost
    I'm pretty sure Rabo are the only team owned solely by the sponsor. So I don't think this will happen.
  • shinyhelmut
    shinyhelmut Posts: 1,364
    Big Mat pull out now - not exactly the big name sponsor people were expecting to be next...

    Andy

    I bet JV is having a quiet snigger somewhere.
  • nathancom
    nathancom Posts: 1,567
    Big Mat pull out now - not exactly the big name sponsor people were expecting to be next...

    Andy
    Pun of the day?
    In concrete terms, this won’t have any effect on the cycling team