Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped
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bompington wrote:
Is it? The poor innocent who has suddenly had all his dreams and illusions shattered? Can anybody in pro cycling be so naive as to be surprised and disappointed at this stage?ddraver wrote:See now THAT Bradley, Fabian, Cadel, Jens etc etc is a f**king answer!!
Hmmm. Its getting to the 'been there, done that' stage with the pros comments. Hushovd's been a pro since '98. He's been riding GTs since at least 01 including Tours won by Armstrong.0 -
Hushovd has been a complete joke when answering Lance-questions almost up until Lance's admission.
Not buying this one bit.0 -
bompington wrote:ddraver wrote:Can anybody in pro cycling be so naive as to be surprised and disappointed at this stage?
+1
Although I might change it to read "Can anyone, anyone at all, be so naive as to be......."0 -
hushovd wrote:“I am very pissed at Armstrong and others who have played us for fools,” Hushovd told nrk.no. “I have cried going over the mountains because it hurt so much”.
I am very pissed at Thor and other pros with their disingenuous reactions and thinking we are all fools.**************************************************
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It is worth remembering that many of the pros until very recently were extremely intimidated by Armstong and would never publicly offend him fearing their future in the sport as well as potentially damaging legal issues. The smart thing to do if you wanted to keep your job was probably to praise the man whether you liked him or not.ThomThom wrote:Hushovd has been a complete joke when answering Lance-questions almost up until Lance's admission.
Not buying this one bit.
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Murr X wrote:ThomThom wrote:Hushovd has been a complete joke when answering Lance-questions almost up until Lance's admission.
Not buying this one bit.
...... many of the pros until very recently were extremely intimidated by Armstong .......
I'm going to echo Murr X and say i'm not buying this one bit.
This is the same thing people always do on this forum. They build up LA into some great evil wizard who controls everything. What a load of sh*t!!! It's as if all the other riders were weak willed, weak kneed, scared little kids. Has anyone admitted that they were scared of him?0 -
In fact, many has.0
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dennisn wrote:Murr X wrote:ThomThom wrote:Hushovd has been a complete joke when answering Lance-questions almost up until Lance's admission.
Not buying this one bit.
...... many of the pros until very recently were extremely intimidated by Armstong .......
I'm going to echo Murr X and say i'm not buying this one bit.
This is the same thing people always do on this forum. They build up LA into some great evil wizard who controls everything. What a load of sh*t!!! It's as if all the other riders were weak willed, weak kneed, scared little kids. Has anyone admitted that they were scared of him?
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So, this is Lance's plan. Lie low, do 'good works' and the passage of time will allow him to be the best comeback kid since his comeback role model, Clinton
http://www.texasmonthly.com/story/man-w ... rce=buffer
Oh, and apparently he didnt bully, he was just being 'defiant'0 -
Interesting comment. !dennisn wrote:This is the same thing people always do on this forum. They build up LA into some great evil wizard who controls everything. What a load of sh*t!!! It's as if all the other riders were weak willed, weak kneed, scared little kids. Has anyone admitted that they were scared of him?
A couple of years ago there was a lot of speculation that the Texan Scumbag was behind the very very In depth special testing of Contador which must have been a costly sum.
What other rider needs the Minders on display with the threat that there are others in the background if they break his Omerta.
He might think that his comedy show with opera might help his past to be overlooked in your country but the USADA findings will always surface to bring him down.Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
Thor - God of Verbal Chunder...
Never warmed to him and have decided he's a massive tosser.
It was him wingeing about Cav deviating from his line in that Tour sprint (that prob cost Cav the Green jersey) what done it.
To me, he's like the muscular WWF wrestler that fancies his chances at cage fighting and gets tw@tted after 20 secs in the first round by a chubby Russian.
That lone breakaway he did through the hills in green was quite good, though...0 -
OCDuPalais wrote:Thor - God of Verbal Chunder...
Never warmed to him and have decided he's a massive tosser.
It was him wingeing about Cav deviating from his line in that Tour sprint (that prob cost Cav the Green jersey) what done it.
To me, he's like the muscular WWF wrestler that fancies his chances at cage fighting and gets tw@tted after 20 secs in the first round by a chubby Russian.
That lone breakaway he did through the hills in green was quite good, though...
The aftermath of which was so succinctly depicted in Boy Racer:
Hushovd: 'Cav, can we talk'
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LA doesn't seem very concerned now...guess the 5 year statute provides safety from qui tam and other stuff.0
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Holy Sh*t boys, Dennis is a woman!!!!Recent sporting history has been littered with spectacular downfalls – Tiger Woods, Lance Armstrong and now, on a different level again, Oscar Pistorius. Of course real heroes – those who know how to behave both on and off the field of play – still far outnumber those who let us down.
At the same time, sporting scandals remind us of why we also need to draw on real friends as a source of inspiration.
http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2013/02/ ... ng-heroes/We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Interesting:
Well in the sort of way that you might find Stephen Fry interesting.
Lance Armstrong hired Ben Barnes Group, a Washington lobbying firm, to look into steroid cop Jeff Novitzky, according to report
Few were spared Lance Armstrong’s bullying tactics over the years, not even top steroid cop Jeff Novitzky.
Armstrong hired a Washington lobbying firm in 2010 to look into Novitzky, the agent who headed a federal criminal investigation into Armstrong and his former cycling team, the Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday night.
Kent Caperton, principal of the Ben Barnes Group, said in an interview with the Journal that his firm was hired in July of 2010 by Armstrong to raise concerns about Novitzky, a Food and Drug Administration special agent who was leading the investigation into the cyclist’s teams from 2010 until February of 2012. It was then that the investigation of Armstrong was abruptly dropped without explanation by the U.S. Attorney for the Central District of California, Andre Birotte.
According to the story, the Barnes Group worked for Armstrong for only about three months before the firm decided “there was no congressional path forward,” and dropped its lobbying efforts after two payments of $25,000 each by Armstrong’s lawyer, Tim Herman. The firm apparently played no role in the abandonment of the investigation.
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Mmmm, is that the lobbying world's equivalent of taking blood in case you need to reinfuse it but never actually doing so?0
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The 14 day extension Tygart offered over his Feb 6th deadline for LA to "be part of the solution" ends today. Did he go under oath for USADA?0
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Dave_1 wrote:The 14 day extension Tygart offered over his Feb 6th deadline for LA to "be part of the solution" ends today. Did he go under oath for USADA?
Good point. All quiet on the media front on this.
Talking of USADA...that appeal by Bruyneel seems to have disappeared into limbo...USADA arent much help when asked about a date for it, it seems. Where does this leave things? Is he considered officially banned for life? Same goes for Celaya and Marti...0 -
Richmond Racer wrote:Dave_1 wrote:The 14 day extension Tygart offered over his Feb 6th deadline for LA to "be part of the solution" ends today. Did he go under oath for USADA?
Good point. All quiet on the media front on this.
Talking of USADA...that appeal by Bruyneel seems to have disappeared into limbo...USADA arent much help when asked about a date for it, it seems. Where does this leave things? Is he considered officially banned for life? Same goes for Celaya and Marti...
Yeah Bruyneel is suspended at the moment...as are the two others as elected to do arbitration...very odd how their cases have dissapeared. Bruyneel hoping for T&R and then appeal to CAS against USADA?0 -
ddraver wrote:Holy Sh*t boys, Dennis is a woman!!!!Recent sporting history has been littered with spectacular downfalls – Tiger Woods, Lance Armstrong and now, on a different level again, Oscar Pistorius. Of course real heroes – those who know how to behave both on and off the field of play – still far outnumber those who let us down.
At the same time, sporting scandals remind us of why we also need to draw on real friends as a source of inspiration.
http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2013/02/ ... ng-heroes/
So all these years I've been putting one to many N's in my name?? :oops:0 -
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Will not be quizzed by USADA...(refused, as mentioned by pat1cp)
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He was never going to admit lying once again on Oprah.
See you in 8 years time, Lance!
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Ha ha. Basically we are back to 'unconstitutional witch-hunts'.
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ddraver wrote:See now THAT Bradley, Fabian, Cadel, Jens etc etc is a f**king answer!!
In answer to a direct enquiry about whether he has ever doped, his response is " The only thing I can say is that I know that I'm sitting here with a clear conscience."
Yep, that's an answer all right.0 -
Good old Lance. Went on Oprah, put on a perfect performance then throws it all back in ya face refusing to cooperate 'for commercial reasons'.
Lance you're a CHEAT - guys lock the thread, we shouldn't even be discussing this fraud any more.
BTW I met with an Ironman pal of mine from Houston, Texas last week who told me the professional Ironmen athletes from Texas (the home of triathlon in the US) have made it quite clear to the US Triathlon authorities they DO NOT want Lance to allowed to race in their events. Said there was a strong bond between the athletes that respects the massive commitment and achievement in competing at the highest level in this king of events (3.8k swin, 180k ride, 42k run) and they do not want a self confessed drugs cheat to join their ranks. Let him play darts or crown green bowls but the triathletes of Texas do not want him. Insightful, no?
Sorry but LA is a sad, sad, miserable man.'Performance analysis and Froome not being clean was a media driven story. I haven’t heard one guy in the peloton say a negative thing about Froome, and I haven’t heard a single person in the peloton suggest Froome isn’t clean.' TSP0 -
ddraver wrote:F**k it's no wonder riders never bother to answer the question is it :roll:
FWIW i'm not necessarily suggesting he's done anything wrong, but when faced with a pretty straight forward question is it unreasonable to raise an eyebrow at a reply like that ? He could have answered the question quite simply with a "No".
From Millar to Hamilton to Armstrong himself (and doubtless many others), the recurring theme is that old chestnut "everyone was doing it, we didn't consider it cheating". If I take PED's but don't consider it cheating, then naturally I'm going to have a clear conscience 'cos I don't believe i've done anything wrong.0 -
I would be wary of taking any quote that's been translated from a fairly minor language at face value. I doubt it's been translated by an actual human - probably just Google, so any context, nuance or idiom just gets lost.k1875 wrote:ddraver wrote:F**k it's no wonder riders never bother to answer the question is it :roll:
FWIW i'm not necessarily suggesting he's done anything wrong, but when faced with a pretty straight forward question is it unreasonable to raise an eyebrow at a reply like that ? He could have answered the question quite simply with a "No".
From Millar to Hamilton to Armstrong himself (and doubtless many others), the recurring theme is that old chestnut "everyone was doing it, we didn't consider it cheating". If I take PED's but don't consider it cheating, then naturally I'm going to have a clear conscience 'cos I don't believe i've done anything wrong.Twitter: @RichN950
