Is there such a thing as jersey etiquette?

rolf_f

ben@31 wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

This is what the more indignant cyclists don't seem to get! If the UCI didn't want us to wear WC jerseys, it wouldn't licence them for sale.

I think this goes to show the UCI probably cares more about making money than some old school ideas on what you can't wear .

You may be right but that's the point. The UCI regulates that in races you must be a WC to wear the stripes and it licences them so that outside racing anyone can wear them. That's the UCI's decision and they didn't have to make it. So I find it pretty funny when people on here start claiming to have more right to determine who wears WC stripes than the UCI. It's pretty ridiculous when you think about it.

daveyroids

Raffles wrote:

There are elitist club morons in cliques the length and breadth of the UK who will approach a rider in any of the TDF jerseys, and think they are doing him a favour when they advise him that he really shouldnt be wearing that jersey. Best thing to do is collectively tell that clique to fekk off and mind their own business and go and enjoy the time on the bike in that nice jersey. There are some despicable elements in road cycling that a guy or gal on their bike has to suffer unfortunately.

This club moron has never done such a thing and I have never seen another club moron do it. Most I have ever heard is banter between friends.

Wear what you want. I have my club tops, professional team tops and plain old cheap tops thanks to Aldi and Sports direct. I usually wear the first one that I put my hands on. I don't have a KOM, yellow, green or Sky Jersey as I don't like them.

daveyroids

ben@31 wrote:

As a newbie who has just got into road cycling, I find all this very off putting. All of this does nothing to promote the sport and welcome in new people. I know of no other sport or activity where some complete stranger who doesn't know me says what kit I can or can't buy.

Very off putting for lots of people. I didn't know that this was even an issue for some people until I have read this thread. I have been riding with people for years who have worn many team tops and been around lots of club and non club cyclists and never heard a negative comment. I'm sure I have seen people commuting to work wearing the yellow jersey while riding a hybrid. Its just a jersey people, get over it.

smashed

At the end of the day..

If the jersey is officially licensed to buy, then you are offically allowed to wear it. And if the "pro" riders felt that strongly about it then they could always sign for another team. They didn't, so they are either fine with it (most likely) or sold out for cash.

If the jersey was fake and unofficial then perhaps you can argue that they do not want average Joe wearing it..

Raffles

Is the simple answer to the thread question not just........................."NO"

If a guy wants to take a plain white jersey and dye it yellow all by himself and write "I won the tour de france" on the front of it in black permanent marker , where is there a law to stop him. There will always be berks who take the jersey colour situation waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously, and those individuals seriously need to go and get a life and unscrew their heads from their own rear ends.

Ive read online about riders sporting a nice TDF jersey that they paid for being accosted by club berks telling them that they need to earn that polka dot top and shouldnt be wearing it, or somebody in full SKY kit which they paid for getting "the look" or snide comments and congratulations about being chosen to ride for that team. Like...................WTF !!!!, where else would you have to put up with garbage like that !

I club ride 3 times per week and thank god there is none of that. Newbies shouldnt be discouraged or intimidated by club snob cliques who think they rule the roost, WEAR WHAT YOU LIKE is absolutely right, if you paid for it and like it..................then wear it. I dont own the yellow or green simply because I dont like them, I have the polka dot which ive worn out on the road and if a rider passing me by has any issue, then thats his problem. The only stick ive ever taken regarding that top is along the lines of please let us see you pushing your bike up a 15% and I can laugh just as hard at that proposition too

Leeuw

I wear what I like the look of, and aren't really concerned what others think. I've got some trade team stuff and lots of plain gear - but just wear what I like on the day.

Oddly, at events, I have seen people quizzed about their climbing prowess while wearing KoM jerseys, but no one ever queried my sprint ability in my Giro Ciclamino... And I usually get a thumbs up for my Belgian Champs jersey - even though I'm clearly not Belgian or a Champ!!

What troubles me more, and it really shouldn't, is people wearing Banesto shorts with a SKY jersey - if you're going to wear team kit top and bottom, make sure it matches

feelgoodlost

ben@31 wrote:

As a newbie who has just got into road cycling, I find all this very off putting. All of this does nothing to promote the sport and welcome in new people. I know of no other sport or activity where some complete stranger who doesn't know me says what kit I can or can't buy.

All the gear no idea? If I had the money I would love to own all the good gear. Why not buy the best bike, jersey, golf clubs that you can afford?

When the football season starts, are they going to tell 60,000 Aresnal fans over the tannoy that every single one of them has to take off their replica shirt inside the Emirates stadium?

declan1 wrote:

Don't try to be something you aren't; you'll just look like an idiot.

I dont believe for one minute anyone would buy a yellow jersey just to be something they are not, I'm sure people buy it because they like it. Or because its bright yellow and I don't get run over wearing it.

Rolf F wrote:

This is what the more indignant cyclists don't seem to get! If the UCI didn't want us to wear WC jerseys, it wouldn't licence them for sale.

I think this goes to show the UCI probably cares more about making money than some old school ideas on what you can't wear .

dw300 wrote:

I wear a Yellow Jersey, with a white number on a red background .. if anyone says anything to me about it I punch them in the face.

This is too true, people forget these days that it's only a matter of time before they gob off at the wrong person. somebody who has no qualms about replying with an instant punch to the face (See naive motorists who have been assaulted because they gave out some verbal road rage).

+1 to pretty much everything said here. I'm relatively new to road cycling. I bought a yellow jersey when I first started getting into it (before I realised what it stood for) and I'm pretty shocked that someone would get grief because of what bike they ride (expensive or cheap) or what jersey they wear. I'd probably tell any rider to get a life if they directed abuse at me because of what I was wearing or what bike I was riding.

p9uma

This has got to the most banal, inane, foolish, masturbatory and occasionally inarticulate thread I have ever had the misfortune of reading. Some of you folk should get out and ride your bikes more often and stop typing nonsense on forums.*



* oh the irony!

ShutUpLegs

p9uma wrote:

This has got to the most banal, inane, foolish, masturbatory and occasionally inarticulate thread I have ever had the misfortune of reading. Some of you folk should get out and ride your bikes more often and stop typing nonsense on forums.*



* oh the irony!

Relax, it's only the internets

dodgy

Whenever this subject crops up, someone (who wears one of the prize jerseys) will defend their choice because "lots of football fans wear MUFC, LFC (etc) tops in the pub).

Only problem with that, they're in the pub, street, not actually playing football

I actually don't care what anyone wears, but using the "because footy fans do it" is not convince a hardcore cycling fan who in all probability considers football fans to be of lower class.

p9uma

ShutUpLegs wrote:

p9uma wrote:

This has got to the most banal, inane, foolish, masturbatory and occasionally inarticulate thread I have ever had the misfortune of reading. Some of you folk should get out and ride your bikes more often and stop typing nonsense on forums.*



* oh the irony!

Relax, it's only the internets

That's a load off!

Paul 8v

Ah, but if you wore a football top for a kickabout down the park I'm sure it would be fine. For a 5 a side match not so good.

Similarly if you're out on a training ride with your mates I think a team jersey would be acceptable but not in a proper race.

As cycling is becoming more popular I'm sure we'll see plenty of guys in team sky tops and good luck to them, more people on bikes means less in cars and more people out enjoying themselves out on the bike.

bompington

dodgy wrote:

I actually don't care what anyone wears, but using the "because footy fans do it" is not convince a hardcore cycling fan who in all probability is snobbish about football as well as inferior cyclists

FTFY

dodgy

No you didn't, it was my point, not yours

confused@BR

I have read ALL the pages on this thread and on too many similar threads as well. I have never read posting from someone who had been abused whilst riding by a fellow cyclist for committing this faux pas. It is always 'a mate' or 'my grannie, auntie, uncle, nephew...'. Never them. Internet Myth anyone? Otherwise, names and dates please.

anthdci

I do kind of judge people who were replica jerseys like the yellow or polkadot. For the argument about wearing football strips then yes its fine to wear replica team kit, that is showing your support for that time, great. However you don't see people in man united (replace with whichever relevant team) strips with champions league medals round their neck, because its they would look a bit daft because they haven't earned it. I think that is kind of how I see it.

Mikey23

hmmm, having checked out the prices of team Sky and GB replica kit, im revising my opinion rapidly... while i dont have a problem with wearing or seeing others wearing replica kit, i do object to paying some corporate fat cat loads od dosh for the privilige!

Raffles

Mikey23 wrote:

hmmm, having checked out the prices of team Sky and GB replica kit, im revising my opinion rapidly... while i dont have a problem with wearing or seeing others wearing replica kit, i do object to paying some corporate fat cat loads od dosh for the privilige!

buy em from bike mall in china, exactly the same thing without the tag at the collar. you can get exactly the same jersey from bike mall for 20 quid that a uk shop will charge you 60 quid forwith a different collar tag. no brainer :!:

only the monocle wearing cyclists will be asking to inspect that tag before letting you ride.

smashed

See, I would rather pay £40 in the sale for a genuine, or not at all. I will not pay £20 for a chinese knock off.

Raffles

smashed wrote:

See, I would rather pay £40 in the sale for a genuine, or not at all. I will not pay £20 for a chinese knock off.

paying an xtra 20 quid for that little collar tag then ,those chinese jerseys are the exact same jerseys dude, uk just imports them for those willing to pay 40 quid extra.

smashed

Look at the football shirt sites...same thing.
They are NOT the same shirt, hence why the tag is missing. They are just clones with different materials.

Either way, I wouldnt wear a fake. I bought a 2011 jersey for 30

feelgoodlost

p9uma wrote:

This has got to the most banal, inane, foolish, masturbatory and occasionally inarticulate thread I have ever had the misfortune of reading. Some of you folk should get out and ride your bikes more often and stop typing nonsense on forums.*



* oh the irony!

ben@31

adm1 wrote:

t might start to get them thinking like individuals rather than herd animals.

I'm sure for football or rugby fans, 1000's wearing the same top is a symbol that each person from completely different backgrounds are brought together because of a common bond... Each sharing a passion for the same team, like a brotherhood who on a weekend share the same ups and ups and downs and pride in where they come from. Its like 1000's of cyclists being proud of our TDF and Olympic achievements, they could cycle past each other in their yellow jerseys and give each other "a knowing nod of recognition".

dodgy wrote:

Whenever this subject crops up, someone (who wears one of the prize jerseys) will defend their choice because "lots of football fans wear MUFC, LFC (etc) tops in the pub).

Only problem with that, they're in the pub, street, not actually playing football

I also play rugby. When its a training night many guys I know, DO wear replica rugby tops to play in, because that kit is the most suited to playing that sport. Some guy once wore a normal tshirt he got free from a pub, it was torn to shreds in minutes. The same for cycling kit, a breathable wicking jersey with pockets in the back and bib shorts with padding are surely ideal for us cyclists.

anthdci wrote:

However you don't see people in man united (replace with whichever relevant team) strips with champions league medals round their neck, because its they would look a bit daft because they haven't earned it. I think that is kind of how I see it.

Most replica football kits do have honours on show. For example, Liverpool FC jerseys have 5 embroidered stars, one for each Champions League. England kit has one embroidered star for the winning the World Cup. But nobody questions if wearing these jerseys are acceptable or not if you weren't there on the pitch. It'll be no different to wearing a GB cycling jersey that shows the olympic medals won. You should be proud of what our nation's cyclists won and have no reason to hide it.

oldwelshman

Raffles wrote:

smashed wrote:

See, I would rather pay £40 in the sale for a genuine, or not at all. I will not pay £20 for a chinese knock off.

paying an xtra 20 quid for that little collar tag then ,those chinese jerseys are the exact same jerseys dude, uk just imports them for those willing to pay 40 quid extra.

So you have the official team sky kit, UK shop supplied kit and Cheneese and all are the same material and quality except for labels?
The team kit will be best quality and not on sale, replicas decent quality, chineese imports generally crap quality material especially the shorts, but if you can show its identical I will get some.

HasselHough

I like to ride across the Norfolk Broads in my KOM shirt wearing a Gold, Silver and Bronze medal whilst juggling the World Cup, FA Cup and Freight Rover Trophy......... But that's just me.

Mikey23

And with sideburns and on a yellow bike ...

HasselHough

Mikey23 wrote:

And with sideburns and on a yellow bike ...

Ah! You must have seen me then :-)

ben@31

And a helmet...

HasselHough

ben@31 wrote:

And a helmet...

Absolutley, but only a yellow one :-)

StillGoing

oldwelshman wrote:

Raffles wrote:

smashed wrote:

See, I would rather pay £40 in the sale for a genuine, or not at all. I will not pay £20 for a chinese knock off.

paying an xtra 20 quid for that little collar tag then ,those chinese jerseys are the exact same jerseys dude, uk just imports them for those willing to pay 40 quid extra.

So you have the official team sky kit, UK shop supplied kit and Cheneese and all are the same material and quality except for labels?
The team kit will be best quality and not on sale, replicas decent quality, chineese imports generally crap quality material especially the shorts, but if you can show its identical I will get some.

I've had kit made in China and it was crap. The materiel was gossamer thin and the decal fixing ran after the first wash. Never again. I'd sooner pay the extra for something I know is fit for purpose.